Michael Moore through a private trust owns stock in Haliburton, Boeing, and various HMOs?

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Harvey

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Originally posted by: subsailor1031
I just wanted to point out (as the owner of the site your thread cited) that I am a liberal myself...but Moore's hypocrisy annoyed me to no end. It seems to have generated a fair amount of interest, too (my site has gotten double the normal traffic, most from the two posts I've made about this).
Excuse me for being a skeptic, as well as a liberal, but do you or Frackal have any documentation that Moore owns Hallibuton stocK?

I guess it's nice to have a blurb or two on some blogs, but I couldn't find anything other than your blog about it. Something a little more substantial would be nice before I believe it.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Don't hate him for being a smart investor.

No, hate him for the money-hungry hypocrite he and the people who support him are.
 

judasmachine

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hell F9/11 was a giant flashing glowing neon sign to invest in haliburton. it's screwed up that they get no bid contracts, but shiat people, put your money there, their business is going to do nothing but grow.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Frackal
What's hypocritical about Moore owning Haliburton stock?

I won't take that as a serious question.

Seriously, answer the question.


Huh? Hasn't he painted Haliburton to be practically related to Satan and any money given to Haliburton would be like giving it to Satan.. or ??

Unless Haliburton just released Stocks(when he bought in or his Fund Co, which I assume he has little to no say in what stocks they buy) in order to raise Capital(sp), he didn't them 1 red cent. He has, assuming it's a stock that pays dividends, actually taken money from them though.
 

whistleclient

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so... we're talking about a book which "supposedly" has this evidence, yet no documents have been provided and corroborated... and this all appears on a blogspot site.

Um... yeah.

 

jpeyton

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Good job finding the smoking gun.





It should be mentioned that Michael Moore is a celebrity, so his conflict of interest is a little less important than say...our executive branch.
 

RightIsWrong

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Does this all sound like a publicity campaign for this book?

Even if not, it does show that Moore is a) become that which he loathes b) smart considering Haliburton's profits have doubled in the last couple years c) getting richer by the day. I would like to see verification of it before going off the deep end of condemnation however.

 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Frackal
LOL... the most vocal scolds are often the biggest hypocrites, even the liberal ones

Think this will make it into the MSM?

Very kittle coverage if any at all. So far, I haven't seen any coverage at all. Like the
Air Scamamerica, this is going to be kept quiet.

Michael Moore Owned Halliburton, Defense Stocks

Michael Moore Owned Halliburton, Defense Stocks
Jim Meyers
Friday, Nov. 4, 2005






Filmmaker Michael Moore has made a career out of trashing corporations and said he doesn't own any stocks due to moral principle.

How then did author Peter Schweizer uncover IRS documents showing that Moore's very own foundation has bought stocks in some of America's largest corporations ? including Halliburton, other defense contractors and some of the same companies he has attacked?

In his blockbuster new book "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy," Hoover Fellow Schweizer reveals the glaring contradictions between the public stances and real-life behavior of prominent liberals including Al Franken, Ralph Nader, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. [Editor's Note: NewsMax has a free offer for "Do As I Say" ? Go Here Now.]


But he reserves some of his sharpest barbs for Moore.


In his first documentary "Roger & Me," Moore skewered General Motors, Schweizer points out.




In "The Big One," he went after Nike and PayDay candy bars.


"Bowling for Columbine" was an attack on the American gun industry.


Oil companies played a major role in "Fahrenheit 911."


His upcoming film "Sicko" pillories drug companies and HMOs.


On his television shows "TV Nation" and "The Awful Truth," he criticized HMOs and defense contractors.

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He once said that major defense contractor Halliburton was run by a bunch of "thugs," and suggested that for every American killed in the Iraq war, "I would like Halliburton to slay one mid-level executive."


Publicly, Moore has claimed he wants no part of these companies and won't own stock.

In his book "Stupid White Men," he wrote: "I don't own a single share of stock."


He repeated the claim in a 1997 letter to the online magazine Salon, saying: "I don't own any stock."






Privately, however, he tells the IRS a different story, Schweizer discloses in his book.


The year that Moore claimed in "Stupid White Men" that he didn't own any stock, he told the IRS that a foundation totally controlled by Moore and his wife had more than $280,000 in corporate stock and nearly $100,000 in corporate bonds.


Over the past five years, Moore's holdings have "included such evil pharmaceutical and medical companies as Pfizer, Merck, Genzyme, Elan PLC, Eli Lilly, Becton Dickinson and Boston Scientific," writes Schweizer, whose earlier works include "The Bushes" and "Reagan's War."


"Moore's supposedly nonexistent portfolio also includes big bad energy giants like Sunoco, Noble Energy, Schlumberger, Williams Companies, Transocean Sedco Forex and Anadarko, all firms that 'deplete irreplaceable fossil fuels in the name of profit' as he put it in ?Dude, Where's My Country?'


"And in perhaps the ultimate irony, he also has owned shares in Halliburton. According to IRS filings, Moore sold Halliburton for a 15 percent profit and bought shares in Noble, Ford, General Electric (another defense contractor), AOL Time Warner (evil corporate media) and McDonald's.

"Also on Moore's investment menu: defense contractors Honeywell, Boeing and Loral."


Does Moore share the stock proceeds of his "foundation" with charitable causes, you might ask?


Schweizer found that "for a man who by 2002 had a net worth in eight figures, he gave away a modest $36,000 through the foundation, much of it to his friends in the film business or tony cultural organizations that later provided him with venues to promote his books and film."


Moore's hypocrisy doesn't end with his financial holdings.


He has criticized the journalism industry and Hollywood for their lack of African-Americans in prominent positions, and in 1998 he said he personally wanted to hire minorities "who come from the working class."


In "Stupid White Men," he proclaimed his plans to "hire only black people."


But when Schweizer checked the senior credits for Moore's latest film "Fahrenheit 911," he found that of the movie's 14 producers, three editors, production manager and production coordinator, all 19 were white. So were all three cameramen and the two people who did the original music
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On "Bowling for Columbine," 13 of the 14 producers were white, as were the two executives in charge of production, the cameramen, the film editor and the music composer.


His show "TV Nation" had 13 producers, four film editors and 10 writers ? but not a single African-American among them.



And as for Moore's insistence on portraying himself as "working class" and an "average Joe," Schweizer recounts this anecdote:


"When Moore flew to London to visit people at the BBC or promote a film, he took the Concorde and stayed at the Ritz. But he also allegedly booked a room at a cheap hotel down the street where he could meet with journalists and pose as a ?man of humble circumstances.'"


That's hypocrisy with a capital H!




 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: wiin
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Frackal
LOL... the most vocal scolds are often the biggest hypocrites, even the liberal ones

Think this will make it into the MSM?

Very kittle coverage if any at all. So far, I haven't seen any coverage at all. Like the
Air Scamamerica, this is going to be kept quiet.

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That's hypocrisy with a capital H!

Maybe they are waiting for.....oh what is that word......PROOF!!

Like I said above, this sounds like it is nothing more than a PR campaign for this book. In fact, it sounds a lot like that "Truth about Hillary" book campaign. The author made many exagerated claims with absolutely little to no proof or fact checking because the proof that he did offer had been debunked years earlier.
 
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I think it would indeed be hypocritical if Michael Moore owned Halliburton stock, but the OP hasn't provided one shred of proof of it - this entire thread is just shallow innuendo.