Michael Cohen will testify to House Oversight Feb 7 about his work for Trump

[woolfe9998]

Aaaand....Roger Stone just violated the judges order from a week ago!!!!

Yep, sure looks like it. I said in the Stone thread that this gag order was purgatory for a man like Stone and that he might very well violate it. He should go to jail now. Let's hope that's what happens.

 

[zinfamous]

Aaaand....Roger Stone just violated the judges order from a week ago!!!!

this dude fucking loves prison.

 

[Muse]

I never thought I'd be looking at Cohen as the source of truth in all this, but compared to these treacherous Republicans and Trump he's a shining positive example. This beats fiction any day.

Makes pretty good theater. But after having sat (stood!) through 1/2 dozen GOP blinders-on scoldings of Cohen, I'm having to FF through those snakes to get to some illuminations.

 

[Jhhnn]

I would expect people not to let anti-American stooges remove a duly elected president without some sort of protest.

Yes, Congress is full of anti-American stooges. But only in the post-truth realm of Trumpistan.

 

[UNCjigga]

Actually, Mr. Roy, this is EXACTLY what the American people asked Congress to do when we elected a Blue Wave to the House. So stop shedding tears for cartels invading the border and stop your insane plea that the American people not listen to what's going on.

 

[zinfamous]

Ben Franklin opined about impeachment. The threshold consistent "high crimes and misdemeanors" was properly described with another word Franklin used- "obnoxious". Trump's actions in office fit the meaning of "misdemeanors" that existed at the time of writing the Constitution. Funny how "Patriots" are either ignorant of or willfully distract or lie regarding that point. The reason that impeachment was included as an option for Congress was to provide an alternative which Franklin mentioned as the alternative, assassination, to correct a grievous abuse of office. Since killing a President was never off the table in principle then I doubt the Founders expected any President immune from criminal consequences in office or not. That there is no hint of protection supports that, unless as I say killing is the preferred route if impeachment is impossible.

Why is it that the supporters of Trump are generally the most ignorant regarding the Founders, Constitution and the rule of law? Those who are critical are anti-American in supporting these three most important foundations of our nation and gleefully piss on them whenever they conflict with their Dear Leaders and politburo.

One might think that certain parts of the constitution, and certainly the federalist papers, are not included in the "pocket constitutions" that they purchased exclusively from the NRA and smugly carry around with the rest of their daily loadouts.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

this dude fucking loves prison.

I’ll guess he’ll be like Cohen, all tough talk until the reality of prison sets in.


I heard something really smart from Fifty Cent. He said these guys are all too soft, they’ll cave and turn rats shortly after being jailed. They have too much to lose.
Always trust people from the hood over Lawyers, Business people or bankers. Someone in the hood doesn’t need as much stuff to be comfortable

 

[zinfamous]

IF Trump is proven a criminal or anyone one else for that matter, they have no place in politics. Silly question or position. I would say that those who support the rule of law have nothing to fear from middle class people.

you say this constantly, but never provide any notion to your own personal standard of evidence that constitutes proof in your mind. Any random reader would reasonably surmise that your standards exist purely on a sliding scale.

 

[fskimospy]

this dude fucking loves prison.

I'm pretty sure there's an element of the gag order that allows him to broadly assert his innocence, which is likely what that would fall under.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm pretty sure there's an element of the gag order that allows him to broadly assert his innocence, which is likely what that would fall under.

Stone didn't include reference to himself in that statement, or that he was specifically referring to Cohen's claims about himself. I read that as Stone just calling Cohen a liar in his testimony regarding the investigation against Trump, which seems pretty clearly restricted in the gag order, no? If that broad assertion could be invoke here, then it seems there are no limits to the definition of broad, no?

 

[dainthomas]

Hahaha!!!!!

This Republican chick saying we should be focusing on important stuff like
What sounded like abortion
Boarder Security
Some other Republican wet dream
and Infrastructure


Hasn’t it been roughly 2 years of infrastructure week?

I was wondering what the crap "neonatal abstinence syndrome" or whatever was.

 

[HomerJS]

IF Trump is proven a criminal or anyone one else for that matter, they have no place in politics. Silly question or position. I would say that those who support the rule of law have nothing to fear from middle class people.

I'm not worried. You will attempt to change the definition of "criminal" and "proven" just to continue supporting Trump.

 

[woolfe9998]

The most amazing part of this so far is when Cohen calls out the GOP on the committee for protecting Trump, saying they're doing the same thing that he did for Trump for 10 years. Don't do it, he warns them. Look where it got me.

That was epic.

 

[HomerJS]

The most amazing part of this so far is when Cohen calls out the GOP on the committee for protecting Trump, saying they're doing the same thing that he did for Trump for 10 years. Don't do it, he warns them. Look where it got me.

That was epic.

Pretty much sums up the Republicans on this committee

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I was wondering what the crap "neonatal abstinence syndrome" or whatever was.

Per google it’s basically babies born to addict Mothers and I think how to manage their withdrawal symptoms.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

IF Trump is proven a criminal or anyone one else for that matter, they have no place in politics. Silly question or position. I would say that those who support the rule of law have nothing to fear from middle class people.

Then you disagree with the fellow who said that they are a threat, correct? Now all we need is an investigation and prosecution of warranted and then a criminal trial if a grand jury indicts. There is no legal or Constitutional immunity for a President be it Obama, Trump or Hillary if she had won from criminal acts even if in office. Starr refuted the memo which wasn't even about a President, but an opinion rendered offhand without legal foundation in the case of the prosecution of Agnew.

No one in any position can be above the law.

 

[Jhhnn]

I’ll guess he’ll be like Cohen, all tough talk until the reality of prison sets in.


I heard something really smart from Fifty Cent. He said these guys are all too soft, they’ll cave and turn rats shortly after being jailed. They have too much to lose.
Always trust people from the hood over Lawyers, Business people or bankers. Someone in the hood doesn’t need as much stuff to be comfortable

There's nothing like the prospect of jail to help a guy re-evaluate his life & shed the illusions of Trump World. Kompromat takes many forms & Trump uses all of them. If I believed in the supernatural I'd say Trump is a manifestation of the Devil.

 

[dainthomas]

Per google it’s basically babies born to addict Mothers and I think how to manage their withdrawal symptoms.

That sounds pretty terrible and something someone from WV should definitely care about. Not sure why we can't address that and also investigate criminal presidents.

 

[soulcougher73]

You sound upset about something.

Well it has to be pretty embarrassing to have ever liked or voted for Trump. To be so easily verifiably duped by a conman. Ouch. That has to burn upon self reflection.

They should be entering stage 2 of the 5 Stages of Grief soon which is Anger. Some are still in the Denial phase though.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yep, sure looks like it. I said in the Stone thread that this gag order was purgatory for a man like Stone and that he might very well violate it. He should go to jail now. Let's hope that's what happens.

I don't think so and the reason is that making a disclosure to the public was barred, not that any communication to any entity at all times is forbidden. This is a statement made to VICE in a private email that VICE decided to make public. Party A makes a private (not public) statement to party B (for which there is no prohibition) and party B decides to make it public. Unless specifically directed to do so the statement from VICE is wholly its own responsibility.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That sounds pretty terrible and something someone from WV should definitely care about. Not sure why we can't address that and also investigate criminal presidents.

Exactly and why it takes more than an afternoon of talk about how to deal with addicts babies.

 

[DarthKyrie]

That sounds pretty terrible and something someone from WV should definitely care about. Not sure why we can't address that and also investigate criminal presidents.

According to the Republicans on this committee, the US House of Representatives isn't capable of chewing gum and walking at the same time. We know that is basically the truth about Republicans so they can only be speaking about themselves.

 

[soundforbjt]

Something telling in Cohen's testimony was the fact that he said Trump never directly made comments or said to do things, but the people around him knew what he meant.
I think that'll be a big part of the Mueller investigation, that Trump is never on record as actually directing the "crimes/collusion", just that everyone "knew" what he wanted/meant.

 

[hal2kilo]

The most amazing part of this so far is when Cohen calls out the GOP on the committee for protecting Trump, saying they're doing the same thing that he did for Trump for 10 years. Don't do it, he warns them. Look where it got me.

That was epic.

Awsome. Hope to catch some of this at home tonight.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

According to the Republicans on this committee, the US House of Representatives isn't capable of chewing gum and walking at the same time. We know that is basically the truth about Republicans so they can only be speaking about themselves.

Please Nancy, tomorrow take up a resolution or bill to address babies born to addicts. Keep it clean no attachements, up or down vote about how to or how much to address the problem.
Please call that bluff.