Mexican President urges assault weapons ban

[Infohawk]

We'll take our guns back if they take their illegals back.

The Dems need to understand there is no middle ground on illegals.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Democrats give Mexican president standing ovation

"Look carefully in the vid and you’ll see Janet Napolitano (in the blue jacket) and Eric Holder (to her right) springing to their feet to pile on."

Nancy Pelosi is (of course standing and clapping too).

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/...dent-standing-ovation-for-dumping-on-arizona/

How many seats is this going to cost the Dems in November?

I say they loose 80 seats in the House.

This is beyond sickening.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs

where was his standing ovation?

 

[dammitgibs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs

Tom McClintock...fuck yah

 

[Drako]

Tom McClintock...fuck yah

One of the few California pols I can agree with on most issues.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs

About time someone came out against the nonsense pushed by the dems.

 

[spacejamz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldx8gzdwzws

+1000

 

[ayabe]

We tell everyone in the world what to do and how to conduct their business.

This won't get much attention outside of you nutters, who hate them already for other reasons. No one is taking your guns or banning fishing.

 

[palehorse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs

oh hell yeah.

Is that guy California's only hope, or what?

Well f'n said.

 

[nick1985]

No one is taking your guns

"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come." -- Joe Biden

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.” -- Dianne Feinstein

"Only the police should have handguns." -- Bill Clinton

"If a bill to ban handguns came to the house floor, I would vote for it.” -- Pete Stark

" ...we need much stricter gun control, and eventually should bar the ownership of
handguns" -- William Clay

“I believe.....this is my final word......I believe that I'm supporting the Constitution
of the United States which does not give the right for any individual to own a
handgun...." --Jan Schakowsky

“We urge passage of federal legislation ... to prohibit ... the private ownership and
possession of handguns.” -- ACLU

"The most effective means of fighting crime in the United States is to outlaw the
possession of any type of firearm by the civilian populace." --Janet Reno





I agree that Obama will never be able to pass an AWB, or any harsh gun control legislation, he has been against the American public on too many issues already. But to suggest that no top-level lawmakers are against banning guns is crazy. They are there and they are waiting for a good opportunity to do it.

 

[Carmen813]

Just who the hell does this guy think he is to come into our country and dictate to our congress what laws to pass? Of course Pelosi/Obama/Biden all stood up and clapped at the suggestion. Not only that but this guy has no idea what he is talking about.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iWIFRAZgaPp88VR9tjCkLRyWCyJwD9FQMFH84



OK, that is a flat out lie. American Citizens, without a felony, with proper ID, after passing a background check and signing a form where lieing is a felony, then yes you can purchase a long gun or a rifle. No full auto, no assault weapon, not a selective fire weapon. Just a semi-automatic rifle, and heck you can find few guns that aren't semi-automatic, almost all of them are. One pull of the trigger fires one round, another pull of the trigger fires another round, etc.

From what my friend tells me, it's a relatively simple step to take a semi-auto weapon and make it full-auto. Usually involves grinding down something...

I'm not really in support of an assault weapons ban, since no one has presented one that makes any damn sense yet.

 

[nick1985]

From what my friend tells me, it's a relatively simple step to take a semi-auto weapon and make it full-auto. Usually involves grinding down something...

Yet another myth... It never ends /sigh

Myth: Assault weapons can be easily converted to machine guns

Fact: Firearms that can be “readily converted” are already prohibited by law.22

Fact: None of the firearms on the list of banned weapons can be readily converted.23

Fact: Only 0.15% of over 4,000 weapons confiscated in Los Angeles in one year were
converted, and only 0.3% had any evidence of an attempt to convert.24




I'd bet 5 grand that if I put my AR-15 on a table in front of your friend he couldnt make it a full auto weapon.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I agree with a ban, but not the type Calderon is calling for. I believe we should ban the sale of US firearms to mexican military and law enforcement, these are the weapons that wind up in the hands of gangsters not weapons sold to US citizens.

 

[ayabe]

"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come." -- Joe Biden

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.” -- Dianne Feinstein

"Only the police should have handguns." -- Bill Clinton

"If a bill to ban handguns came to the house floor, I would vote for it.” -- Pete Stark

" ...we need much stricter gun control, and eventually should bar the ownership of
handguns" -- William Clay

“I believe.....this is my final word......I believe that I'm supporting the Constitution
of the United States which does not give the right for any individual to own a
handgun...." --Jan Schakowsky

“We urge passage of federal legislation ... to prohibit ... the private ownership and
possession of handguns.” -- ACLU

"The most effective means of fighting crime in the United States is to outlaw the
possession of any type of firearm by the civilian populace." --Janet Reno





I agree that Obama will never be able to pass an AWB, or any harsh gun control legislation, he has been against the American public on too many issues already. But to suggest that no top-level lawmakers are against banning guns is crazy. They are there and they are waiting for a good opportunity to do it.

Which nutter website did you lift that shit from? LOL you were in middle school when most of those "quotes" were uttered.

 

[daishi5]

Which nutter website did you lift that shit from? LOL you were in middle school when most of those "quotes" were uttered.

He missed one, but the AG said that he spoke with the president, and they were both in favor of a new assault weapons ban. That would have been last year. But please, continue to tell us that believing the statements of the Attorney General made during a press conference makes us all nutters.

 

[nick1985]

Which nutter website did you lift that shit from? LOL you were in middle school when most of those "quotes" were uttered.

Yep attack the source.

http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/5.1/gun-facts-5.1-screen.pdf

Read up, it makes you anti-gun fools look like...well...fools.

Also, as daishi5 already pointed out, there have been talks about AWB during THIS administration. Keep your head in the sand though.

 

[nick1985]

I agree with a ban, but not the type Calderon is calling for. I believe we should ban the sale of US firearms to mexican military and law enforcement, these are the weapons that wind up in the hands of gangsters not weapons sold to US citizens.

:thumbsup:

 

[Carmen813]

Yet another myth... It never ends /sigh

Myth: Assault weapons can be easily converted to machine guns

Fact: Firearms that can be “readily converted” are already prohibited by law.22

Fact: None of the firearms on the list of banned weapons can be readily converted.23

Fact: Only 0.15% of over 4,000 weapons confiscated in Los Angeles in one year were
converted, and only 0.3% had any evidence of an attempt to convert.24

I'd bet 5 grand that if I put my AR-15 on a table in front of your friend he couldnt make it a full auto weapon.

Probably not. He was referring to a specific gun anyway, and I honestly don't remember what it was. I think it involved grinding down something related to the trigger mechanism, but honestly this conversation was years ago and I just don't remember. It may have been a civilian Mac-10 or something similar (which isn't an assault rifle anyway). He isn't anti-gun by any means, he and his dad are quite big into firearms. His dad has one of the sweetest AR-15s I've ever seen...

The biggest problem I have with previous assault weapon bans is that they focus on banning "scary" looking guns. I'm not sure I agree that the 2nd amendment gives you an unlimited right to bear arms, as some suggest, but I do think it was designed to protect citizens from the federal government getting too much power (though in this day and age, I'm not sure that an armed citizenry is really a practical deterrent).

Honestly, I just don't support a ban at all. Similar to illegal immigration, there are just too many weapons already in the system so it's not practical to try and remove all of them. I would instead favor tightening up background checks and cutting down on black market weapons. I'd also favor promoting gun safety.

 

[bob4432]

Probably not. He was referring to a specific gun anyway, and I honestly don't remember what it was. I think it involved grinding down something related to the trigger mechanism, but honestly this conversation was years ago and I just don't remember. It may have been a civilian Mac-10 or something similar (which isn't an assault rifle anyway). He isn't anti-gun by any means, he and his dad are quite big into firearms. His dad has one of the sweetest AR-15s I've ever seen...

The biggest problem I have with previous assault weapon bans is that they focus on banning "scary" looking guns. I'm not sure I agree that the 2nd amendment gives you an unlimited right to bear arms, as some suggest, but I do think it was designed to protect citizens from the federal government getting too much power (though in this day and age, I'm not sure that an armed citizenry is really a practical deterrent).

Honestly, I just don't support a ban at all. Similar to illegal immigration, there are just too many weapons already in the system so it's not practical to try and remove all of them. I would instead favor tightening up background checks and cutting down on black market weapons. I'd also favor promoting gun safety.

the whole US is the supplier of guns is just a diversion - has no merit and that has been shown by of all sources the atf. it is not about background checks at all either regardless of what 60minutes says. mexico can't control its own problem, so they just divert into something else that sounds good to the left media and then people think all kinds of crazy shit because "it was on tv". calderon needs to take responsibility for his own cuntry's issues, not come here and give us shit just because our own pres does.

seriously, you think the leader of a large drug cartel is going to mess around w/ trying to get something to run f/a by 'grinding this and that' when he can just steal/buy for cheap manf f/a weapons from either the corrupt mil, leo or other countries? seriously?

if any admin is doing everything they can to guarantee a 1 term run, this one sure is, more than any i can remember. we have no leader, just a guy talking all kinds of shit about US every chance he gets and when that is not enough, he brings in others to do the same. 2012 can't come soon enough.

as far as an armed citizenry being a deterrent, well, nobody wants it to come to that.

 

[QuantumPion]

Yet another myth... It never ends /sigh

Myth: Assault weapons can be easily converted to machine guns

Fact: Firearms that can be “readily converted” are already prohibited by law.22

Fact: None of the firearms on the list of banned weapons can be readily converted.23

Fact: Only 0.15% of over 4,000 weapons confiscated in Los Angeles in one year were
converted, and only 0.3% had any evidence of an attempt to convert.24




I'd bet 5 grand that if I put my AR-15 on a table in front of your friend he couldnt make it a full auto weapon.

Furthermore if you had the means to convert a semi auto to a full auto, then you also have the means to make a full-auto from scratch since it requires the same heavy machinery and tools.

 

[QuantumPion]

Probably not. He was referring to a specific gun anyway, and I honestly don't remember what it was. I think it involved grinding down something related to the trigger mechanism, but honestly this conversation was years ago and I just don't remember.

The only semi-auto guns that can be trivially converted to machine guns are open-bolt guns such as mac-10's, which is why semi-automatic versions of these guns are already classified/registered as machine guns.

 

[DAGTA]

I invite Senator Tom McClintock to move to AZ and run for office in this state.

 

[nick1985]

The only semi-auto guns that can be trivially converted to machine guns are open-bolt guns such as mac-10's, which is why semi-automatic versions of these guns are already classified/registered as machine guns.

Yep. I believe UZI's fall in this category too, I could be mistaken on that however.