Mets have the stupidest ownership in the MLB.

[PlatinumGold]

he has a shot at getting Vlad, but he's to cheap to do it, ok, cameron is ok, and matsui is almost tolerable, but wtf was he thinking.

then he spends money and gets hidalgo, again not a bad move, but not great.

he TRADES away Peterson, a blue chip prospect for a player he will have to sign off FA at the end of the season, a season where the mets really don't have a shot at winning the division. :roll:

Benson is going to go FA end of the season no doubt.

then he trades for Zambrano from Tampa Bay, pulease.

put all that money together and he could EASILY have had Vlad AND with vlad, the mets could easily be in the race right now, tommy glavine with a 2.6 era could easily have 10 to 12 wins by now.

what a moron.

so, they won't be good this year, they won't be good next year, they won't be good the year after at which point both glavine and leiter will have retired, zambrano and benson will be 32 and 33 in three years.

god he is a total moron.

 

[Anubis]

Qe?

 

[murphy55d]

Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano... priceless. LOL the mets are idiots.

edit: I am glad theMets overpaid for Benson, as I heard the Braves mentioned as a potential team for Benson, with Andy Marte being the guy going back to Pittsburgh. I'd hated to see Marte go for Benson.

 

[jdiddy]

Man have you seen Benson's wife??? That trade was worth it just for her shes gorgeous!!! http://www.annabenson.net/

 

[PlatinumGold]

how can you give up on Vladimer and pickup mediocre pitching?

i just don't get it.

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
how can you give up on Vladimer and pickup mediocre pitching?

i just don't get it.

If you can understand picking up Burnitz, Vaughn, etc... previously then you'll get it. Their goal... spend money unwisely to make the Yanks look better.

 

[Coquito]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
put all that money together and he could EASILY have had Vlad AND with vlad, the mets could easily be in the race right now, tommy glavine with a 2.6 era could easily have 10 to 12 wins by now.

what a moron.

The mets don't have a steinbrenner running the show. You can't just buy players. A swap for vlad would of been impossible with who they traded away.

Trading glavine while he's hot now wouldn't be such a bad idea, being that he's not going to playing much longer. There farm system is almost completely drained aswell. Glavine seems like the best bait for anything.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: KokomoGST

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
how can you give up on Vladimer and pickup mediocre pitching?

i just don't get it.

If you can understand picking up Burnitz, Vaughn, etc... previously then you'll get it. Their goal... spend money unwisely to make the Yanks look better.

burnitz was pretty good before going to the mets and is having a good season this season, even his second season with the mets was ok, not great but ok.

vaughn was a mistake, but not many people said that alomar was a mistake before the trade was made. so, i can't really knock the mets for those moves, also, they were competitive then and they thought a few key players could make them WS contenders.

they are seriously delusional if they think this years mets is a few players away from the playoffs. even with these moves, the mets are no closer to the braves than they were yesterday.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Coquito

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
put all that money together and he could EASILY have had Vlad AND with vlad, the mets could easily be in the race right now, tommy glavine with a 2.6 era could easily have 10 to 12 wins by now.

what a moron.

The mets don't have a steinbrenner running the show. You can't just buy players. A swap for vlad would of been impossible with who they traded away.

Trading glavine while he's hot now wouldn't be such a bad idea, being that he's not going to playing much longer. There farm system is almost completely drained aswell. Glavine seems like the best bait for anything.

do you follow the MLB?? i wasn't talking about trading for Vlad, i was talking this past summer when Vlad was a FA and the mets had an offer on the table with Vlad, they came in 2nd in the Vlad sweepstakes this summer because they cheaped out.

 

[rh71]

didn't we already cover why Vladimir wasn't picked up in an older thread ? He was using the Mets to get more money and go elsewhere. That was the consensus in the prev. thread.

 

[PlatinumGold]

he never had any intention of moving. the NY Mets? are you sure you aren't thinking the NETS?

 

[BaboonGuy]

Originally posted by: jdiddy
Man have you seen Benson's wife??? That trade was worth it just for her shes gorgeous!!! http://www.annabenson.net/

:Q

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
he never had any intention of moving. the NY Mets? are you sure you aren't thinking the NETS?

he was saying that vlad was using the mets


benson trade i like...didnt give up too much Ty had no place to play with Wright ...

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
he never had any intention of moving. the NY Mets? are you sure you aren't thinking the NETS?

he was saying that vlad was using the mets


benson trade i like...didnt give up too much Ty had no place to play with Wright ...

but why give up Ty to rent benson for half the season?? why not bring up one of your blue chip prospects and give them ML experience and if it doesn't work THEN go after benson in the Off season as he is almost guaranteed to test the FA market.

as it is, they have given up Peterson a Blue chip prospect AND Ty a good utility guy for Bensen who they will HAVE to try and re sign in the off season.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: rh71
didn't we already cover why Vladimir wasn't picked up in an older thread ? He was using the Mets to get more money and go elsewhere. That was the consensus in the prev. thread.

mb, but the mets didn't push the envelope so we will never know, if the mets had offered 10% more than anyone else and forced the angels to match it or force vlad to sign for less, then we'd know for sure.

but i have a hard time believing that Vlad wouldn't have signed with the Mets as being in NY would have been great for a great hispanic player.

 

[NeoV]

Settle down PGold....Vlad wasn't going to play for either NY team - why do you think the Yankees didn't bother? Baltimore was the front runner most of the time he was a free agent, and only at the late states did the Angels step up - get over it, Vlad was never going to be a Met, unless they hit him with A-Rod type of money.

Picking up Hidalgo for David Weathers was a great trade for the Mets.

Kris Benson is nasty - he is just now rounding into pre-surgery form - yes, he will be a FA, but I like the Mets shot at keeping him - plus, there was no place left for Wigginton to play with Wright up.

The trade I don't like is Zambrano - his WHIP is awful, and Kazmir was their #1 pitching prospect - hard to figure this one out - if his control improves, Zambrano can be effective, but unlikely to happen in the middle of the season.

Peterson isn't a sure fire prospect anyway, no real loss there.


How about the Dodgers shaking things up - looks like they are going to trade Brad Penny, who they just picked up, to Arizona, along with Edwin Jackson, for Unit if he'll accept the trade.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Anyone that knows anything about baseball is laughing at the Mets right now.

The Mets basically traded Justin Huber (he went to KC before and the player from KC went to Pittsburgh), Matt Peterson, and Ty Wigginton for Kris Benson. OK, this trade is bad. However, Benson has potential. Peterson is an OK prospect, but he was overrated and expendable. Huber I liked. Raw defensive player, but great OBP skills. The Mets needed a catcher in the future, too. This hurts.

Kazmir + Diaz for Victor Zambrano +?????????????? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!

THE METS ARE IDIOTS. THEY JUST TRADED THEIR #1 PROSPECT (SINCE WRIGHT WAS PROMOTED) FOR FREAKING VICTOR ZAMBRANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SCOTT KAZMIR WAS THE #1 LHP PROSPECT IN THE GAME! HE'S ONE OF THE BEST PROSPECTS IN THE GAME! AND THEY TRADED HIM FOR VICTOR ZAMBRANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Mets went from a top 10 farm system to a bottom 10 farm system in a matter of minutes. I feel sick.

 

[PlatinumGold]

hehehe

hey, i'm a braves fan, the worse the mets do, the better for me.

it just annoys me to see incompetence.

but OTOH, after watching prospect after prospect for the mets fail, trading them away may not be such a bad idea.

compare wright of the mets to laroche or c thomas of the braves.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Anyone that knows anything about baseball is laughing at the Mets right now.

The Mets basically traded Justin Huber (he went to KC before and the player from KC went to Pittsburgh), Matt Peterson, and Ty Wigginton for Kris Benson. OK, this trade is bad. However, Benson has potential. Peterson is an OK prospect, but he was overrated and expendable. Huber I liked. Raw defensive player, but great OBP skills. The Mets needed a catcher in the future, too. This hurts.

Kazmir + Diaz for Victor Zambrano +?????????????? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!

THE METS ARE IDIOTS. THEY JUST TRADED THEIR #1 PROSPECT (SINCE WRIGHT WAS PROMOTED) FOR FREAKING VICTOR ZAMBRANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SCOTT KAZMIR WAS THE #1 LHP PROSPECT IN THE GAME! HE'S ONE OF THE BEST PROSPECTS IN THE GAME! AND THEY TRADED HIM FOR VICTOR ZAMBRANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Mets went from a top 10 farm system to a bottom 10 farm system in a matter of minutes. I feel sick.

is this the first time we've ever agreed on a baseball issue??

but seriously, couldn't they have signed bensen in the off season without losing huber?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
he never had any intention of moving. the NY Mets? are you sure you aren't thinking the NETS?

he was saying that vlad was using the mets


benson trade i like...didnt give up too much Ty had no place to play with Wright ...

but why give up Ty to rent benson for half the season?? why not bring up one of your blue chip prospects and give them ML experience and if it doesn't work THEN go after benson in the Off season as he is almost guaranteed to test the FA market.

as it is, they have given up Peterson a Blue chip prospect AND Ty a good utility guy for Bensen who they will HAVE to try and re sign in the off season.

I'm not sure if I would really call Peterson a great prospect. Blue chips are usually reserved for truly elite prospects, like the recently departed Scott Kazmir, who the Mets decided to leave.

If the deal was Peterson+Wigginton for Benson, then it's a good deal for the Mets as the Mets could alway soffer arbitration to Benson and receive a first round pick in the draft.

However, you forgot about JUSTIN HUBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Anyone that knows anything about baseball is laughing at the Mets right now.

The Mets basically traded Justin Huber (he went to KC before and the player from KC went to Pittsburgh), Matt Peterson, and Ty Wigginton for Kris Benson. OK, this trade is bad. However, Benson has potential. Peterson is an OK prospect, but he was overrated and expendable. Huber I liked. Raw defensive player, but great OBP skills. The Mets needed a catcher in the future, too. This hurts.

Kazmir + Diaz for Victor Zambrano +?????????????? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!

THE METS ARE IDIOTS. THEY JUST TRADED THEIR #1 PROSPECT (SINCE WRIGHT WAS PROMOTED) FOR FREAKING VICTOR ZAMBRANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SCOTT KAZMIR WAS THE #1 LHP PROSPECT IN THE GAME! HE'S ONE OF THE BEST PROSPECTS IN THE GAME! AND THEY TRADED HIM FOR VICTOR ZAMBRANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Mets went from a top 10 farm system to a bottom 10 farm system in a matter of minutes. I feel sick.

is this the first time we've ever agreed on a baseball issue??

but seriously, couldn't they have signed bensen in the off season without losing huber?

They're going to try to sign Benson long term. Yes, they could have had him without giving up Huber. GOD DAMN IT! They could have used Huber next year. A catcher with a .400+ OBP and a .900+ OPS in the minors. Yeah, who needs that? Not the team with an aging Mike Piazza moving to 1B with two scrub catchers...sure. whatever.

I guarantee that this was the work of the owner, Fred Wilpon.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
hehehe

hey, i'm a braves fan, the worse the mets do, the better for me.

it just annoys me to see incompetence.

but OTOH, after watching prospect after prospect for the mets fail, trading them away may not be such a bad idea.

compare wright of the mets to laroche or c thomas of the braves.

The Mets haven't had a good farm system in a while. Scott Kazmir was a better pitching prospect than Capellan or Meyer of ATL, IMO.

If they actually traded him for something of value, then that would have been tolerable. However, they didn't.

I'm not sure what you mean by compare Wright to LaRoche or Thomas as Wright was the #2 prospect in all of the minors. He's about as safe of a prospect as you can get.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
hehehe

hey, i'm a braves fan, the worse the mets do, the better for me.

it just annoys me to see incompetence.

but OTOH, after watching prospect after prospect for the mets fail, trading them away may not be such a bad idea.

compare wright of the mets to laroche or c thomas of the braves.

The Mets haven't had a good farm system in a while. Scott Kazmir was a better pitching prospect than Capellan or Meyer of ATL, IMO.

If they actually traded him for something of value, then that would have been tolerable. However, they didn't.

I'm not sure what you mean by compare Wright to LaRoche or Thomas as Wright was the #2 prospect in all of the minors. He's about as safe of a prospect as you can get.

of course it is too soon to judge wright and he was very impressive in the minors, but C Thomas and Laroche has already contributed more to the braves in the majors than wright has.

mets prospects have a way of going bad, aaron heimler (or whatever his name was).

 

[wnied]

Mets have the stupidest ownership in the MLB

Nah that titles reserved for the Philadelphia Phillies.
~wnied~

 

[RabidMongoose]

David Wright has barely even been in the majors. Talk about a ridiculous comparison....LaRoche isn't exactly contributing much as a 1B anyways.

Sure, David Wright might end up going bad, but I don't think you are aware of how great of a prospect he is. Thank god the Mets didn't trade him.

It's not as if the Braves have never had a failed or overhyped prospect either.