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Metallica boots Bob Rock!

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Bob Rock was a parasite on the band. That being said, I ahve no idea where this Rubin fellow is going to take Metallica.
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he also produced Our Lady Peace's craptacular album "Gravity" not surprisingly, they ended up doing the smart thing and booted Bob Rock out as producer for their current album "Healthy In Paranoid Times". I guess Metallica is following the trusty advice of fellow canadian rockers.
 
Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
IMO, it has a very distinctive riff.
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Well, I'm listening to Battery right now. The only part I can remember is when he screams something like "You'll get a better seat!" or something. I'll see...
 
Leper Messiah is a good song. Especially when they get into it towards the middle.
 
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Which instrumental do you guys like better, To live is to Die, or Orion?
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Orion.

Heavy with very nice riffs and *gasp!* even some Polyphony and counterpoint in the middle part (all that section was composed by Burton).

I also like the riff at the begining. They actually use mayor and minor chords in that riff and it sounds very distinctive, instead of the typical root 5th metal chords.
 
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Which instrumental do you guys like better, To live is to Die, or Orion?
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Orion. However, Call of the Ktulu is the best Metallica song ever and possibly the best song ever period.
 
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Which instrumental do you guys like better, To live is to Die, or Orion?
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Orion. However, Call of the Ktulu is the best Metallica song ever and possibly the best song ever period.
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Interestingly, Dave Mustaine co-wrote Call of Ktulu with James and Cliff and actually recycled a lot of it for a Megadeth song, Hangar 18 (which is also awesome, by the way).

 
Originally posted by: LiquidImpulse
Originally posted by: BigJ
Bob Rock was a parasite on the band. That being said, I ahve no idea where this Rubin fellow is going to take Metallica.
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he also produced Our Lady Peace's craptacular album "Gravity" not surprisingly, they ended up doing the smart thing and booted Bob Rock out as producer for their current album "Healthy In Paranoid Times". I guess Metallica is following the trusty advice of fellow canadian rockers.
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huh? Bob Rock produced Healthy in Paranoid Times... 😕 didn't you watch the DVD?
 
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
IMO, it has a very distinctive riff.
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Well, I'm listening to Battery right now. The only part I can remember is when he screams something like "You'll get a better seat!" or something. I'll see...
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I love Battery. It's thrash heaven, and the super-crunch riff in the end blew my mind the first time I listened to it.

It was one of the songs that made me want to play guitar. It was my first Metallica record and I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
 
Originally posted by: Noema
Interestingly, Dave Mustain co-wrote Call of Ktulu with James and Lars and actually recycled a lot of it for a Megadeth song, Hangar 18 (which is also awesome, by the way).
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I've heard people mention how Hangar 18 and Call of the Ktulu are similar, but I just took a listen to it a few hours ago and the only things similar between the two is that they're both the best songs for each band.
 
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: Noema
Interestingly, Dave Mustain co-wrote Call of Ktulu with James and Lars and actually recycled a lot of it for a Megadeth song, Hangar 18 (which is also awesome, by the way).
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I've heard people mention how Hangar 18 and Call of the Ktulu are similar, but I just took a listen to it a few hours ago and the only things similar between the two is that they're both the best songs for each band.
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The similarity is not immediately obvious, but the chordal structure is the same at the beginning. The difference is it is clean arpeggios in Ktulu and strummed, distorted chords in Hangar 18.

It's just bits and pieces. Other than those chords at the beginning they are entirely different stuff.

Dave used to recycle many things from his Metallica days. He rewrote 'The Four Horsemen' as 'The Mechanix' and he also used some bits from 'Phantom Lord' in 'This was My Life'.

He also claimed to have written 'Leper Messiah' and not getting any credit for it.
 
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Anytime I see a thread like this it makes me dust off the old collection for a couple hours 🙂
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Oh, I still listen to those old records pretty much every day 😀 In fact pretty much the only things I listen to these days are old Metallica, old Megadeth, Zeppelin, Buena Vista Social Club, Meshuggah and Bach Flute Sonatas 😀

I always warm up by playing along with something from Kill 'em all or MoP when practicing guitar.
 
Originally posted by: Noema
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: Noema
Interestingly, Dave Mustain co-wrote Call of Ktulu with James and Lars and actually recycled a lot of it for a Megadeth song, Hangar 18 (which is also awesome, by the way).
Click to expand...

I've heard people mention how Hangar 18 and Call of the Ktulu are similar, but I just took a listen to it a few hours ago and the only things similar between the two is that they're both the best songs for each band.
Click to expand...


The similarity is not immediately obvious, but the chordal structure is the same at the beginning. The difference is it is clean arpeggios in Ktulu and strummed, distorted chords in Hangar 18.

It's just bits and pieces. Other than those chords at the beginning they are entirely different stuff.

Dave used to recycle many things from his Metallica days. He rewrote 'The Four Horsemen' as 'The Mechanix' and he also used some bits from 'Phantom Lord' in 'This was My Life'.

He also claimed to have written 'Leper Messiah' and not getting any credit for it.
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You have it backwards, The Mechanix was the first iteration of The Four Horsemen, done by Dave.

James rewrote it into The Four Horsemen.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
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You have it backwards, The Mechanix was the first iteration of The Four Horsemen, done by Dave.

James rewrote it into The Four Horsemen.[/quote]

😱

You are absolutely right. I just checked and Dave already had the song when they got into Metallica. They didn't like the orginal lyrics and added that cool middle section.

I like Metallica's version better though.

 
Originally posted by: Noema
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Anytime I see a thread like this it makes me dust off the old collection for a couple hours 🙂
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Oh, I still listen to those old records pretty much every day 😀 In fact pretty much the only things I listen to these days are old Metallica, old Megadeth, Zeppelin, Buena Vista Social Club, Meshuggah and Bach Flute Sonatas 😀

I always warm up by playing along with something from Kill 'em all or MoP when practicing guitar.
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Master of Puppets has a permanent presence in my car's cd changer. 😀

How educated are you in music? You seem to know quite a bit of the terminology. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Noema
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Which instrumental do you guys like better, To live is to Die, or Orion?
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Orion. However, Call of the Ktulu is the best Metallica song ever and possibly the best song ever period.
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Interestingly, Dave Mustaine co-wrote Call of Ktulu with James and Cliff and actually recycled a lot of it for a Megadeth song, Hangar 18 (which is also awesome, by the way).
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At least both songs turned out great. Both songs were modeled for success. God, I love Megadeth's music. But i think Mustaine is a douchebag.
 
Change can be good for bands. Rick Rubin also produces System of a down. He is god of producers.

On a seperate note St. Anger was completely different, I loved it. Liked the commercial stuff, loved the first two albums and st. Anger.
 
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