Just because BarneyFife posts an article that contradicts him, doesn't mean he isn't going to troll and generalize from it...you're just trying to pick a fight. Go back to off-topic.
It's like this: If God tells you to kill you most precious loved ones, you tell God to go buttfvck his son while you videotape and THEN you'll kill them.
People's willingness to make such Sacrifices for God is disgusting.
Jason
lol, i don't know what your great disdain for off-topic is... i've posted in threads like this ever since i've been here, before they got moved to P&N.
in any case, it's sad that you feel you have to resort to ad hominem attacks, i'd really like to see you address the issues i raised. i don't disagree that he is trolling and generalizing, but only with respect to home-schoolers. you accuse him of doing this against religious people in his post, and there is just no evidence to support it. if there is, then show me instead of accusing me of things and telling me to go away.
wow, way to miss the point dumbass
his capitalization of "atheist" made me wonder if his belief in atheism would mirror someone's belief in say Buddhism, or Christianity, or Islam
i guess your parents failed homeschooling you in reading comprehension and analysis
Any excuse to attack christians and christianity on this board will do eh?
Acts 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
Acts 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
No more disguting than people's willingness to make sacrifices for drugs, or for money, or for a gang, or for Jody Foster, or for Allah.
What's disgusting is people willingness to not see that the person's interpretation and application of the religion is the problem, not the belief itself. And what's more disgusting is people what want to blame the religion rather than the mental illness.
Every belief system, or lack thereof, has the potential for abuse, because humans have free will.
What is important to remember is that no matter what Anrea Yates did to her kids, if she believe in Jesus Christ and has faith then she is going to heaven and most of you are not so she is better off than you.
Why is it that liberals have a need to blame everything on religion?
Some people just do bad things because they want to.
Some people just do bad things because they want to.
well some do... but this article is just saying that we should be aware of how mental illness can be obscured from view by religious beliefs.
Stalin had schizophrenia, & was experiencing religious hallucinations or delusions?
I think one lesson from the article was that a fundamentalist xian mindset or social environement can make a bad situation worse re: schizophrenia.
I wish people would learn a bit more about schizophrenia, instead of referring to these people generically as nutjobs.
why do religious and social conservatives want to put everything down to free will? Our will may be contrained in certain directions, as is sometimes the case re: those experiencing the visual hallucinations and auditory delusions associated with the mental illness known as schizophrenia.
The point of posting this was to show how some people in here have a mental illness and they are trying to hide it behind religion. I won't name anyone, but most people know who they are.
LOL you are a piece of work. I was unaware you were able to diagnose mental illness based on an internet chat board!? Impressive.
WHen are you going to realise that your consistent attacks on Christians is mean spirited, bigoted, hateful, small minded and prejudiced?
sandorski
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Yes, that's what this thread should have been about, but the OP mucked it up.
Many Christians, especially from the Right, have a warped view of Mental Illness to begin with. They are highly suspect of Psychology and Psychiatry and many believe Mental Illness has more to do with Demons than well documented causes. This forces many to resort to either hiding their problems or struggling with them needlessly, in these cases to the point of tragedy. Many need to let go of the Mysticism of Christianity in order to find help. That's not to say that Christianity(or Religion in general)is destructive, but it can be, especially when it resorts to denial of Reality.
Damn Red, you made me spit my coffee out all over my computer screen!
And Sandorski is right on the money. My MIL was VERY unhappy that I chose to major in Psychology and minor in Sociology, and she couseled me against it. Said it was all Satan's work to turn man from God. Hee.
My experience at SOME churches is that there will be people with mild to moderate mental illnesses who think that by attending church twice a week, they will be 'delivered' from their woes, but really it's like a support group. And sometimes the support groups are led by the most troubled of them all.
What really killed me was the youth pastor for the church we went to. He was an 'ex-con', saved and born again and working with our teens. LOL, 30 seconds talking with him and any intelligent person could tell he was still a big, greasy, slimy con man. I did some volunteer work with the youth group and it convinced me to NEVER let my kids be involved. It wasn't just the youth pastor... when you are involved in a church, you find there are a lot of people there who 'used' to be criminal but now they are just fine and dandy thanks to being saved.
Now, that is not to say that all people in church are crazy or criminal. But there is a HUGE outreach to the 'fallen'. My FIL sent money to a man in jail and (because my husband's last name is the same) we still get weird, scary phone calls from strangers asking for him. Having 'ex cons' in church is kind of like having the wolves in with the sheep.
One more thing:
However noble it is for churches to help the mentally ill/criminal, it's really a job for PROFESSIONAL therapists and counselors.
However noble it is for churches to help the mentally ill/criminal, it's really a job for PROFESSIONAL therapists and counselors.
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