Medal of Honor: Warfighter - CPU and GPU Benchmarks (GameGPU.ru)

[sze5003]

I think I have to play sp tonite. I doubt many are online with this crazy hurricane. Power went out twice.

 

[2is]

I think I have to play sp tonite. I doubt many are online with this crazy hurricane. Power went out twice.

Luckily the hurricane isn't a world wide or even country wide event I'm sure you'll find plenty of active players online.

 

[poohbear]

:thumbsup:

Agreed. For me HD5870 has eclipsed both the 9700 and 8800GTX in 1 key aspect - longevity. 3 years later and the performance #s HD5870 puts out relative to modern high-end cards are still very respectable. I don't think the same could be said for 9700 Pro or 8800 GTX. Yes, you could have played games on 9700Pro and 8800GTX 3 years later but HD5870 allows you to play games at High quality still at 1080P. I think HD5850 is even better since it cost less and came within 5% of 5870 once overclocked.

HD7850 2GB for $185 is faster than a GTX480 and uses 170W less power on average. Not bad progress in 2.5 years.

Sure but the market & development have slowed considerably in the past 3 years the 5870 has been out. I loved my 5870, & it was worth every penny for 3 years. The next 3 years with the release of next gen consoles is gonna change the pace of development & market once again i hope!

 

[Lonbjerg]

Sure but the market & development have slowed considerably in the past 3 years the 5870 has been out. I loved my 5870, & it was worth every penny for 3 years. The next 3 years with the release of next gen consoles is gonna change the pace of development & market once again i hope!

The new consoles will do the same thing as the current ones does.
Come out, behind the PC performance and I.Q....and then stagnate gaming for another +5 years.

Consoles are the bane of gaming...they do more harm than good.

 

[Makaveli]

The new consoles will do the same thing as the current ones does.
Come out, behind the PC performance and I.Q....and then stagnate gaming for another +5 years.

Consoles are the bane of gaming...they do more harm than good.

Its interesting you say that because if you look at it historically.

consoles have always been around way back to the early 80's.

Its just now the PC gaming industry and the console market seem to be competing with each.

Where as in the past there was more of a divide.

 

[SirPauly]

Imho

I think developers are keen to be more multi-platform -- consoles are really not a problem -- but to have more focus on the PC platform and take advantage of PC strengths to improve realism, immersion and gaming experience potential would be welcomed.

PC game revenue is growing, digital downloads are growing, with more revenue for developers and publishers, while a very pro-active developer relations from AMD and nVidia may indeed provide improved PC gaming experiences over what the console may offer.

AAA titles cost immense resources and simply makes sense to target many platforms, including mobile, to bring in revenue from many.

 

[Makaveli]

AAA titles cost immense resources and simply makes sense to target many platforms, including mobile, to bring in revenue from many.

I think this is the key right here.

 

[Makaveli]

http://www.techspot.com/review/591-medal-of-honor-warfighter-benchmarks/

Enjoy!

 

[RussianSensation]

If the 7970 were so great AMD would not need to keep cutting the price.

Doesn't have anything to do with the point I made. Someone mentioned that HD7970 was a rip-off at launch prices. It was compared to HD4000-6000 pricing, but GTX280 and GTX480 were worse in terms of resale value while GTX280's launch price was $649. The 280's and 480's historical resale values plummeted much faster than 7970's. Thus, if one considered HD7970 to be poor value, then GTX280 and 480 were horrendous in comparison. Also, neither the 280 nor the 480 had 7970's overclocking headroom, or its bitcoin mining ability. So the lack of value in 7970 is really disputable as it made $80+ a month since January when not gaming. Not to mention HD7970 OC remains the fastest single-GPU, while neither the 280 nor the 480 could claim that title 10 months after their launches.

The steam survey and the 3DMark survey both show it lagging in sales.

Neither of those shows global sales numbers. Of course the posters here have no industry research, finance background or industry connections where they can get full blown ER reports, but yet they continue to repeat non-sense in light of professional information for which equity research analyst get paid big bucks:

Graphics Add-In Board shipments by segment, second quarter 2012. (Source: Jon Peddie Research)

Interesting how only 4.7% of add-in discrete GPUs were those above $250 level, yet many times you have claimed now that AMD is failing because of poor sales of its HD7900 series and overpriced launch...So why should anyone who has access to this publicly available information believe anything you try to pass on as "facts" regarding sales and market-share data?

3DMark and Steam show usage patterns for a specific program and portray nothing accurate about trends for global sales of SKUs. Steam Survey was already shown to be an unreliable source for tracking real world sales of NV GPUs (before you joined these forums), under-representing Fermi GPU market share in 2010, when in fact NV was gaining market share rapidly. The strong demand in PC hardware/gaming/enthusiast upgrades is in BRIC countries (Source).

Steam Survey Breakdown hardly shows any gamers from Brazil, India or China and a very small amount of Russian based-gamers vs. the country's active gaming population. Actually most Russian gamers don't use Steam as they pirate the games, so their hardware won't even show up. Furthermore, last quarter AMD discrete GPU graphics division gained market share from NV but according to Steam, AMD GPUs hardly sold. Again, complete disconnect between real world sales data and Steam. Finally, almost none of the GPUs bought for bitcoin mining or GPGPU / distributed computing will show up on Steam as those AMD GPUs aren't bought for games.

Again, using sales doesn't address the point regarding HD7970's resale value which is the whole reason for my response. Popularity =! what we are discussing, which is resale values relative to launch prices. Both the 280 and 480 cards fared significantly worse, with GTX280 losing nearly 2x more value than HD7970 in a similar timeframe. That makes the GTX280 one of the worst GPUs ever made from a resale value perspective. Ironically, the same gamers who keep saying how HD7970 is a huge rip-off never said anything of the sort in regard to GTX280 or 480, or mentioned how GTX680 continued to be overpriced until today since June 2012.

NVIDIA is putting out a higher quality product right now and the market is rewarding them for it.

Like FX5200, GTX550Ti, GT640 and GTX650 are quality cards since they are/were best sellers on Amazon for a long time? :whiste:

Sales doesn't mean the product is higher quality. It is not always correlated. Using your logic Coca-Cola and Pepsi are higher quality beverages than Apple or Pineapple juice.

- Budget PCB construction
- Budget VRM selection
- Locked voltage control
- No warranty support for any overvoltage beyond stock
- Worse overclocking headroom and scaling
- Worse MSAA, SSAA, texture mod performance

Doesn't sound like a higher quality product to me.

Keep derailing the thread further though with nothing relating to MOH:W benchmarks.

A few obscure benchmarks from sites that are blocked by virus scanners are not going to change that.

TPU, HWC, Sweclockers, TechReport, Xbitlabs, HT4u, Tom's Hardware, Computerbase, KitGuru, ABT, etc. all show HD7970 GE beating 680 overall.

Guru3D, TechSpot, GameGPU all show 7970/GE beating 680 in MOH:W.

I guess all of those are obscure reviewers?

 

[RussianSensation]

Now, as it pertains to this game...no single card seems to be enough unless it's dual GPU. That's just my opinion.

For your resolution, you are right on that, but for 1080P a single GPU is fine. Overall, the single player campaign is terrible. D:

This is more of a Frostbite 2.0 benchmark but as a game MOH:W is a turd with CODified multiplayer and absurd on-rails, watered down SP campaign that's even worse than COD.

 

[sze5003]

Haha I thought single player was alright they really can't do much to make it stand out any more after 4 call of duties and battlefield.

 

[RussianSensation]

No one buys shooters for the SP campaigns anymore, at least I dont. I cant remember the last one where I even bothered to complete the SP campaign.

Dishonored? Borderlands 2? Half Life Black Mesa mod? Metro 2033? Crysis 1? STALKER games? Far Cry 3, Metro Last Light, Crysis 3? Almost none of those games will be purchase for their multi-player component. In fact, Metro Last Light won't have a multi-player anymore. People might not care about the SP campaigns anymore because of how awful MMS have gotten at them. It's no longer like playing a game but playing a movie sequence with quick time events.

I agree with railven, COD and BF3 already cover the 2 types of multiplayer for military modern shooters and MOH:W doesn't do it any better than COD. This game is a huge failure imo. Not only did they not make it better than the last failed remake but it's maybe time to abandon this franchise for something new. They don't know how to make a good SP campaign and the multiplayer is a COD ripoff.

Haha I thought single player was alright they really can't do much to make it stand out any more after 4 call of duties and battlefield.

Seriously? I guess to each his own. No freedom of choice, no thinking involved, no sense of discovery, no innovation of any kind, hard to develop any attachment to any of the characters, forgettable levels (by the end of the game, don't remember what happened 3 hours ago).

This game is the epitome of how developers catering to console gamers have ruined the MMS FPS genre. Outside of multiplayer components for BF3 and COD, none of these games is worth paying $50+ anymore. I think I'd rather play Super Mario Bros. Wii U than any of the SP campaigns for MMS games in the last 5 years. In BF3's SP they didn't even let you fly the plane....it was a long-sequence of quick time events to lock in on the enemy planes while another pilot flew the plane. Just awful what this genre is coming to. They should just spend more time focusing on BF4's multi-player and not even bother with SP. It's just money and team effort wasted that can be used to make the multi-player that much better.

The new consoles will do the same thing as the current ones does.
Come out, behind the PC performance and I.Q....and then stagnate gaming for another +5 years.

Consoles are the bane of gaming...they do more harm than good.

It's not just the graphics. It's the gameplay that has gotten to the point of laughably primitive, a far cry from the early days of FPSers. Health regeneration, taking 10 bullets from a sniper and not dying, complete linearity in SP campaigns? Those broken gameplay mechanics catering to LCD ADD kids have nothing to do with next generation consoles.

If Doom was done today

The genre is fundamentally broken now. Now it's like paying $50 to let the game play while you press the left mouse button to shoot while mounted to a turret gun or inside a plane cockpit :whiste: Even compare Dishonored to MOH:W. The MMS genre is strictly targeted at console gamers now. BF's multiplayer is perhaps the ONLY exception in the military genre. Why is it so hard to make a sandbox military SP campaign that's more than 5 hours long? I agree with you that next gen consoles probably won't solve the graphics stagnation either. Once they launch, we'll probably see expontential increases in graphics in the next 3-4 years (say starting in 2014), but eventually they'll become too slow just like PS3/360 did and once more will stagnate PC gaming graphics. The difference is the GPUs in PS3/360 were at least mid-range at that time. By the time PS4/Xbox next launch, they'd need to have HD7870 at minimum to be considered "similar" in terms of product stacking vs. next generation of desktop GPUs.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Dishonored? Borderlands 2? Half Life Black Mesa mod? Metro 2033? Crysis 1? STALKER games? Far Cry 3, Metro Last Light, Crysis 3? Almost none of those games will be purchase for their multi-player component. In fact, Metro Last Light won't have a multi-player anymore. People might not care about the SP campaigns anymore because of how awful MMS have gotten at them. It's no longer like playing a game but playing a movie sequence with quick time events.

I agree with railven, COD and BF3 already cover the 2 types of multiplayer for military modern shooters and MOH:W doesn't do it any better than COD. This game is a huge failure imo. Not only did they not make it better than the last failed remake but it's maybe time to abandon this franchise for something new. They don't know how to make a good SP campaign and the multiplayer is a COD ripoff.



Seriously? I guess to each his own. No freedom of choice, no thinking involved, no sense of discovery, no innovation of any kind, hard to develop any attachment to any of the characters, forgettable levels (by the end of the game, don't remember what happened 3 hours ago).

This game is the epitome of how developers catering to console gamers have ruined the MMS FPS genre. Outside of multiplayer components for BF3 and COD, none of these games is worth paying $50+ anymore. I think I'd rather play Super Mario Bros. Wii U than any of the SP campaigns for MMS games in the last 5 years. In BF3's SP they didn't even let you fly the plane....it was a long-sequence of quick time events to lock in on the enemy planes while another pilot flew the plane. Just awful what this genre is coming to. They should just spend more time focusing on BF4's multi-player and not even bother with SP. It's just money and team effort wasted that can be used to make the multi-player that much better.



It's not just the graphics. It's the gameplay that has gotten to the point of laughably primitive, a far cry from the early days of FPSers. Health regeneration, taking 10 bullets from a sniper and not dying, complete linearity in SP campaigns? Those broken gameplay mechanics catering to LCD ADD kids have nothing to do with next generation consoles.

If Doom was done today

The genre is fundamentally broken now. Now it's like paying $50 to let the game play while you press the left mouse button to shoot while mounted to a turret gun or inside a plane cockpit :whiste: Even compare Dishonored to MOH:W. The MMS genre is strictly targeted at console gamers now. BF's multiplayer is perhaps the ONLY exception in the military genre. Why is it so hard to make a sandbox military SP campaign that's more than 5 hours long? I agree with you that next gen consoles probably won't solve the graphics stagnation either. Once they launch, we'll probably see expontential increases in graphics in the next 3-4 years (say starting in 2014), but eventually they'll become too slow just like PS3/360 did and once more will stagnate PC gaming graphics. The difference is the GPUs in PS3/360 were at least mid-range at that time. By the time PS4/Xbox next launch, they'd need to have HD7870 at minimum to be considered "similar" in terms of product stacking vs. next generation of desktop GPUs.

MOH:W actually has a really good multiplayer component. Once you get past the pretty huge learning curve it's actually a great game. I'm enjoying it more than any of the last 3 cod's, and more than BF3.

The classes as a huge amount of depth and strategy, and once you figure out how to shoot the guns effectively it's an awesome game.

 

[brandon888]

sorry but this game is crap ;/ can't even compare to BF3 ... BF3 SP was terrible to ... all you know ;/ and i agree with RS .... SPs are now on second plan and no one care about them ....


one of the best SP had siphon filter on sony 1 go and beat it if you dare ....

 

[VulgarDisplay]

sorry but this game is crap ;/ can't even compare to BF3 ... BF3 SP was terrible to ... all you know ;/ and i agree with RS .... SPs are now on second plan and no one care about them ....


one of the best SP had siphon filter on sony 1 go and beat it if you dare ....

The MP is very good. It has it's share of bugs, but the class system offers a lot of depth. I'm enjoying the MP in MOH more than BF3 at the moment.

Mainly because DICE has done such a good job of ruining BF3 through patches.

 

[brandon888]

The MP is very good. It has it's share of bugs, but the class system offers a lot of depth. I'm enjoying the MP in MOH more than BF3 at the moment.

Mainly because DICE has done such a good job of ruining BF3 through patches.

can't say anything about mp but as i know there is no open world and maps are like in cod 3 :/ so for me ...meh ....... such games are fun for me about week or 2 ... then i getting bored ;/

BF3 released year ago and i still play it with fun ...




oh and benchmark ..... seems like game runs wore then BF3 on FB 2.0 .... why ? does it looks better ? some features added to graphics ?

 

[Silverforce11]

Some ppl expect way too much, FPS hasnt gotten any better since Doom for singeplayer TBH, move here, kill that, hide, kill those blah blah. Only the presentation has gotten better. Story? Who cares, i dont even recall the storyline in all those COD games i beaten in a few hours. Or BF3's SP, and that was last year, when i play through it twice.

Also MP, TF and CS are 2 divergent playstyle; arcade vs realistic.

Every BF iteration is the same MP, just fancier graphics. Does it make it bad? Heck no, because at its core, FPS are all about competition with your fellow man/woman/dog etc online and fragging each other.

Its repulsive that the same review sites who lavishly praised Cod Black Ops for its SP... then bashed BF3's SP.. now is bashing Warfighter. Seriously they must be FPS connoisseurs and I am not, but frankly, I enjoyed BF3's SP a lot more than previous COD iterations, and Warfighter is quite alright in comparison.

 

[sze5003]

I guess since all the cod fps series was a little similar with the way you played such as action scripted events, and so was the last moh, that we forget about how shallow the game really is. I watched the YouTube video RS posted and the guy hits on some points I didn't even think of. I mean he is absolutely right about how closed in it is but then I sat and wondered well how come I didn't realize it while playing...because we've expected it since the last genre of war shooters was the same sequences.

 

[Olikan]

Some ppl expect way too much, FPS hasnt gotten any better since Doom for singeplayer TBH,

NAH...there was great FPS games since doom...
like the story driven half life 1

but since half life 2... i don't see much better FPSs, and i blame HALO for that

 

[SirPauly]

Neither of those shows global sales numbers. Of course the posters here have no industry research, finance background or industry connections where they can get full blown ER reports, but yet they continue to repeat non-sense in light of professional information for which equity research analyst get paid big bucks:

Did you notice in the article they used MSRP?

http://gfxspeak.com/2012/10/01/review-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-and-gtx-550/

Jon Peddie Research and Mercury Research are basically the gold standards for resources but Steam, from a forum point-of-view adds some insight and data on what gamers are using for hardware, broken down by specific sku's, monthly for Steam. Steam is one of the largest data bases for gamers but obviously is not the end-all-be-all resource and not to replace resources like Jon Peddie and Mercury!

Personally can't totally ignore Steam based on its sheer size.

 

[Arzachel]

Did you notice in the article they used MSRP?

http://gfxspeak.com/2012/10/01/review-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-and-gtx-550/

Jon Peddie Research and Mercury Research are basically the gold standards for resources but Steam, from a forum point-of-view adds some insight and data on what gamers are using for hardware, broken down by specific sku's, monthly for Steam. Steam is one of the largest data bases for gamers but obviously is not the end-all-be-all resource and not to replace resources like Jon Peddie and Mercury!

Personally can't totally ignore Steam based on its sheer size.

You can choose whether to ignore the Steam stats or not, but you can't use it to argue a point. Anecdotes are not data, people!

 

[SirPauly]

Sure it is. Steam is probably the largest data base for gamers.

 

[BFG10K]

Why is it so hard to make a sandbox military SP campaign that's more than 5 hours long?

Far Cry 2.

 

[sze5003]

Also, arma 2 is more open I think but I think that game is more multiplayer.

 

[Arzachel]

Sure it is. Steam is probably the largest data base for gamers.

Publicly released information from the Steam survey != Steam.