McDonald's workers want $15 an hour

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Svnla

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Don't like it? Quit and get another better paying job elsewhere.

/problem.
 

Pulsar

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Right... because Mcdonalds would just eat the cost of higher wages....

No, cost of food would go up, meaning that to break even for higher paid wages, in other areas, would have to go up to compensate. Which again is cost to those companies they have to pay (which they will not just eat either), meaning THEIR products/services will go up in cost to compensate.

And we are back in square one, just a huge chunk of Inflation happened. And no gain was obtained by anyone

Don't bother. This has to be at least the 20th time this has been pointed out to techs, but he's in denial of how supply, demand, and natural market forces work.
 

Jeff7

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They don't even have to fill sodas anymore and they think they should get $15/hr? Hell, I don't think I've even been greeted by a live person at the drive through mic. It's always a recorded greeting. They could probably just put in an ATM style touchscreen so I wouldn't have to have somebody punching in my order at all, then pull around and get my food.

In my mind the entire staff can be reduced to one person for food prep, one technician at a slightly higher wage to do daily upkeep on the automated machines that can take everybody else's place, and one manager that deals with any complaints manually (or takes orders manually in the case of a machine going down).
I'd love to see an automated McDonalds. You'd probably need someone to take orders, until computers are as good at understanding spoken language as people.

Though I will say, I don't encounter prerecorded greetings at the drive-through. Usually, the greeting is, "I'll be with you shortly," followed by a short wait until they're back. That, or their (nearly) prerecorded greeting of a sales pitch for something.
 

Evadman

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Though I will say, I don't encounter prerecorded greetings at the drive-through. Usually, the greeting is, "I'll be with you shortly," followed by a short wait until they're back. That, or their (nearly) prerecorded greeting of a sales pitch for something.

Outsourced baby. Hint: some of those people you are talking to at the drive though are not in the building.
 

xSauronx

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$9/hr in NYC...lol.

seriously.
i was making that as the "attendant" for the city at a couple of park & rec sites. way easier than the headache of fast food (i assume) and still barely decent money doing it part time as a student, and im in a tiny town in eastern nc.
 

Raduque

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Most waiters and waitresses in NYC after tip probably make close to 40 to 50 an hour. 15 an hour isn't asking for much in NYC.

Waitstaff is quite a bit different. Most of the waitstaff at my restaurant make more than I do after tips. However, in NYC I bet most line cooks make more than $15/hr as base also.
 

DCal430

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Waitstaff is quite a bit different. Most of the waitstaff at my restaurant make more than I do after tips. However, in NYC I bet most line cooks make more than $15/hr as base also.

It doesn't take much skill to be a waiter/waitress. In California most waitress/waiters make more than the head chefs.
 

Ns1

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It doesn't take much skill to be a waiter/waitress. In California most waitress/waiters make more than the head chefs.

it's really not that much after tipping out everyone and their mom. certainly on the upper end of tipping jobs though.
 

OutHouse

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i worked at mcducks in high school 1984 it was a fun job but i hated closing. one night me and another kid from school got in a mac sauce and tarter sauce fight in the break room. those stupid caulk guns they had for the sauces would squirt 1.5 ounces of the stuff pretty damn far...

we almost got fired for that lol
 

DCal430

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it's really not that much after tipping out everyone and their mom. certainly on the upper end of tipping jobs though.

Not in California, we do not do tipping out here. It is strictly voluntary here, and few do it. In California you can make 20 to 50 an hour depending on the area.
 

Ns1

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Not in California, we do not do tipping out here. It is strictly voluntary here, and few do it. In California you can make 20 to 50 an hour depending on the area.

I'm in CA and when I associated with waiters they tipped out their support staff.

YMMV
 

xSauronx

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You can easily make 50K+ a year being a waiter/waitress.

i could see that in a nice place that stays busy year round. a friend of mine can make a grand a week, or a little more, at the place she works at when theyre busy, but thats only good for about 3 months out of the year...theres probably 6 months out of the year where she gets half that, then during the winter the place is dead or closed.

for those 3 months though she busts her ass. she thinks its funny she makes more a day than me on the weekends but eh...since im in IT i work in climate control, dont really bust my ass, and get to travel around this half of the state racking up drive time during work hours. she can keep her table waiting.
 

EagleKeeper

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Don't bother. This has to be at least the 20th time this has been pointed out to techs, but he's in denial of how supply, demand, and natural market forces work.

He has failed ECON 101 and does not realize it. Thinks the money supply is indefinite
 

DCal430

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I'm in CA and when I associated with waiters they tipped out their support staff.

YMMV

In California has to be entirely voluntary, any requirement or coercion to tip out is against the law. If a resturant is making you tip out you can just report them, and they can face massive fines, fines big enough to shut them down.
 

ichy

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mcdonalds DOES have the right to fire them, though.

Agreed. I am opposed to union thuggery that prevents employers from firing people.

One thing I've noticed though is that a lot of companies seem to have a sense of entitlement. They feel that they have a right to cheap labor. Nothing pisses me off more than when agribusiness gripes about how they "need" immigrant labor because no Americans with a decent work ethic will work for $8/hour. Supply and demand works both ways, and no big company is entitled to an endless stream of immigrants to depress labor prices.
 

Doppel

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Pamela Waldron makes $7.75 an hour as a cashier at the KFC in New York's Penn Station, where she has worked for eight years.
Damn, that's lame. I mean she is.