McDonald's workers want $15 an hour

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Theb

Theb

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You can make $15 an hour at a fast food place. You just have to show a modicum of initiative you'll be promoted to assistant manager. It's an unpleasant way to make a living but it will keep you out of poverty.

bigrash said:
$500 per month in student loans? I'm guessing he went to a good college then why is he working at McD?
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I'm guessing he dropped out of a for profit college that talked him into terrible loans.
 
Zeze

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Back from being banned and spewing hate again?

I've told you this before, laughing at poor people & minorities won't solve your life problems.

I give you a good 3 months before you're banned again. You can't help yourself.
 
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Why even pay them?

Just give them housing, food, entertainment, transportation provided by the government.

I mean if every job deserves a living wage... why not just get rid of the wage and make it a living?

EDIT-- doctors and engineers can have 1 quality higher living level as per what the government has available at the time of application.
 
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bigrash said:
$500 per month in student loans? I'm guessing he went to a good college then why is he working at McD?
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That's what happens when you get a degree that is absolutely worthless (about 75% of them) but at least he has bragging rights that he went to college, LOLOLOL.
 
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Its very sad how the American middle class is killing themselves with their propaganda driven view of economics.

If McDonalds workers made say 12 dollars an hour then there would be less people on food stamps and other government benefits. When you add the millions of people who are in food service alone that would be brought up from poverty to a financial situation where they pay taxes, don't recieve benefits and join the "consumer class" the economy of America would jump so high that the nickle or dime it cost a person per burger would be easily paid off by better wages for everyone.

The myth that low wages helps the middle class is the same myth that the job creators are wealthy people.
Its consumer demand that creates jobs. And its the availability of labor that determines wages. Increase demand and the demand for workers rise, raising everyones wages.
 
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techs said:
Its very sad how the American middle class is killing themselves with their propaganda driven view of economics.

If McDonalds workers made say 12 dollars an hour then there would be less people on food stamps and other government benefits. When you add the millions of people who in food service alone that would be brought up from poverty to a financial situation where they pay taxes, don't recieve benefits and join the "consumer class" the economy of America would jump so high that the nickle or dime it cost a person per burger would be easily paid off by better wages for everyone.

The myth that low wages helps the middle class is the same myth that the job creators are wealthy people.
Its consumer demand that creates jobs. And its the availability of labor that determines wages. Increase demand and the demand for workers rise, raising everyones wages.
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If you raise the floor of wages, then every worker will demand wage increases. Cost of living rises, and of course the rest of the wages will not rise fast enough to cover cost of living increases.
 
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Can someone explain the comparison between one person's wage versus a family of four's wage?

Currently, the median pay for the nearly 50,000 fast food workers in New York City is $9 an hour, or $18,500 a year, according to the New York Labor Department. That's about $4,500 lower than Census Bureau's poverty income threshold level of $23,000 for a family of four.
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What is the poverty income threshhold level for a family of one? Why compare it to a family of four?
 
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techs said:
Its very sad how the American middle class is killing themselves with their propaganda driven view of economics.

If McDonalds workers made say 12 dollars an hour then there would be less people on food stamps and other government benefits. When you add the millions of people who are in food service alone that would be brought up from poverty to a financial situation where they pay taxes, don't recieve benefits and join the "consumer class" the economy of America would jump so high that the nickle or dime it cost a person per burger would be easily paid off by better wages for everyone.

The myth that low wages helps the middle class is the same myth that the job creators are wealthy people.
Its consumer demand that creates jobs. And its the availability of labor that determines wages. Increase demand and the demand for workers rise, raising everyones wages.
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How about we let the market decide what they should be paid?
 
diesbudt

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techs said:
Its very sad how the American middle class is killing themselves with their propaganda driven view of economics.

If McDonalds workers made say 12 dollars an hour then there would be less people on food stamps and other government benefits. When you add the millions of people who are in food service alone that would be brought up from poverty to a financial situation where they pay taxes, don't recieve benefits and join the "consumer class" the economy of America would jump so high that the nickle or dime it cost a person per burger would be easily paid off by better wages for everyone.

The myth that low wages helps the middle class is the same myth that the job creators are wealthy people.
Its consumer demand that creates jobs. And its the availability of labor that determines wages. Increase demand and the demand for workers rise, raising everyones wages.
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Right... because Mcdonalds would just eat the cost of higher wages....

No, cost of food would go up, meaning that to break even for higher paid wages, in other areas, would have to go up to compensate. Which again is cost to those companies they have to pay (which they will not just eat either), meaning THEIR products/services will go up in cost to compensate.

And we are back in square one, just a huge chunk of Inflation happened. And no gain was obtained by anyone
 
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gorcorps

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They don't even have to fill sodas anymore and they think they should get $15/hr? Hell, I don't think I've even been greeted by a live person at the drive through mic. It's always a recorded greeting. They could probably just put in an ATM style touchscreen so I wouldn't have to have somebody punching in my order at all, then pull around and get my food.

In my mind the entire staff can be reduced to one person for food prep, one technician at a slightly higher wage to do daily upkeep on the automated machines that can take everybody else's place, and one manager that deals with any complaints manually (or takes orders manually in the case of a machine going down).
 
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gorcorps said:
They don't even have to fill sodas anymore and they think they should get $15/hr? Hell, I don't think I've even been greeted by a live person at the drive through mic. It's always a recorded greeting. They could probably just put in an ATM style touchscreen so I wouldn't have to have somebody punching in my order at all, then pull around and get my food.

In my mind the entire staff can be reduced to one person for food prep, one technician at a slightly higher wage to do daily upkeep on the automated machines that can take everybody else's place, and one manager that deals with any complaints manually (or takes orders manually in the case of a machine going down).
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Someone has to clean up the joint. :colbert:
 
gothamhunter

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Probably owns an iPad, iPhone with the everything plan, Cable TV with DVR/On Demand, WOW account, and is making $450 payments on his new leased 2013 car too. I'd like to see that his expenses fit his lifestyle, otherwise I have no remorse.
 
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gorcorps said:
They don't even have to fill sodas anymore and they think they should get $15/hr? Hell, I don't think I've even been greeted by a live person at the drive through mic. It's always a recorded greeting. They could probably just put in an ATM style touchscreen so I wouldn't have to have somebody punching in my order at all, then pull around and get my food.

In my mind the entire staff can be reduced to one person for food prep, one technician at a slightly higher wage to do daily upkeep on the automated machines that can take everybody else's place, and one manager that deals with any complaints manually (or takes orders manually in the case of a machine going down).
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They have this at one of (probably more) the local A&Ws. Punch everything in using a touchscreen, swipe your card to pay, then pick up your food at the counter when it's ready. Works perfectly and I have no idea why more places are not doing it; would allow places to reduce staff by at least a couple of people and make ordering more efficient.

KT
 
diesbudt

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gorcorps said:
They don't even have to fill sodas anymore and they think they should get $15/hr? Hell, I don't think I've even been greeted by a live person at the drive through mic. It's always a recorded greeting. They could probably just put in an ATM style touchscreen so I wouldn't have to have somebody punching in my order at all, then pull around and get my food.

In my mind the entire staff can be reduced to one person for food prep, one technician at a slightly higher wage to do daily upkeep on the automated machines that can take everybody else's place, and one manager that deals with any complaints manually (or takes orders manually in the case of a machine going down).
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Actually for Mcdonalds speed, currently they have 3-5 people on food prep.

1 cook, 2/4 people assemblying the cooked food. If you drop it to one, the time per food made would be too drastically increased, in that business would take a huge hit.

(Aka unsuccessful)
 
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