May Day 2008

[mxyzptlk]

The film A Day Without A Mexican should be required material for this thread...


edit: whoops.. looks like theres more than one page tothis thread... I'd better do more reading before I start butting in...

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
1. A lot of Americans (mostly right-leaning) cling to the notion that we should deport all illegal immigrants

Not true. There are some loud mouth ones who do, but I think if you asked it probably would NOT be 'most' but some. It would be saying, in the same vein that most left leaning Americans want to let all illegals in--there are some but not most. I would like to think that most Americans want a fair solution to this problem. If it means fast tracking those that are already in line for legal immigration and then deal with illegals would be fine with most clear thinking Americans. Or we could just institute the way Mexico deals with illegal immigrants.
I loved the photos by the way. Esp. those upset about oppression in the U.S., then they actually support truly oppressive governments--like Cuba and China. I need the shirt that says "Communism killed 100 million people and all I got was this lousy shirt".

I vote for the above underlined option...

 

[rpanic]

Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
1. A lot of Americans (mostly right-leaning) cling to the notion that we should deport all illegal immigrants

Not true. There are some loud mouth ones who do, but I think if you asked it probably would NOT be 'most' but some. It would be saying, in the same vein that most left leaning Americans want to let all illegals in--there are some but not most. I would like to think that most Americans want a fair solution to this problem. If it means fast tracking those that are already in line for legal immigration and then deal with illegals would be fine with most clear thinking Americans. Or we could just institute the way Mexico deals with illegal immigrants.

I loved the photos by the way. Esp. those upset about oppression in the U.S., then they actually support truly oppressive governments--like Cuba and China. I need the shirt that says "Communism killed 100 million people and all I got was this lousy shirt".

Then how does something like prop 187 pass by 58.8% in a left leaning state that practically has a Hispanic majority. But of course the voice of the people was silenced.

How are we going to institute the way Mexico deals with illegals beat and rob them and then pass them to Canada, all we need to do is take away every incentive to come.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
I would like to think that most Americans want a fair solution to this problem. If it means fast tracking those that are already in line for legal immigration and then deal with illegals would be fine with most clear thinking Americans.

And what does THAT mean? Fast track to what exactly? To a green card? To a work visa? And what rules that are currently in place for LEGAL aliens would be bypassed for illegals? Or would you suggest doubling the size of USCIS to handle the additional workload of apps? If thats the case, is it fair for illegals to be bumped ahead of those who have applied legally? And what of the wait period...legal applicants arent granted entry into the US *until* the visa is approved. Should we let the illegals stay IN country until said visa is approved? Isnt that a slap in the face of those who apply LEGALLY?

Why wont anyone answer these and instead talk in vague ideas? Theyre very real concerns.

What say you?