May 6th Primaries Thread

[Robor]

Originally posted by: lupi
A bunch of fucking sheeple. I'll vote for a party regardless is just as bad as those GOPs that voted georgie back in.

Sorry not everyone has your racist bitter outlook or conforms to your sheeple label.

Only a moron would look at the past 7 1/2 under GWB&Co and vote for a guy who's already promised to continue the war in Iraq, GWB's tax cuts, appoint more conservative judges, etc. In short, my preference is Obama > Hillary > McCain.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Bird222
Hillary would have lost Indiana if it wasn't for Republicans trying to screw up the process. Is that how Hillary supporters want her to win?

It's quite clear that Hillary doesn't care *how* she wins. Why would anyone still supporting her continuing this campaign now be any different.

 

[Lemon law]

I think this Hillary the opportunist stuff is simply becoming another great lie. Repeat it often enough and people assume its true. Hillary is trying to win and she is no different than any other political candidate. And in any political campaign, there just comes a point when the spirit is willing to go on, but the brain realizes that the support is not there.

Hillary is just getting to that point now. And now she must hope for miracles to stay in much longer.

 

[jonks]

A clear victory for Obama, a bad night for Clinton. But Obama supporters should look behind the numbers to see the troubling stats.

Clinton won whites about 65-35 in both states. And 30% of Clinton voters in IN said they'd vote McCain, while in NC 30% of Clinton voters also said they'd vote McCain, but another 20% said they'd just not vote. If this is a trend just in NC, which is almost certainly going Rep in the general, no biggie. But this MUST be addressed in the coming months.

All these posters calling seniors and rural whites racist for voting for Hillary had better realize that if that is true, those groups will not vote for Obama in the fall.

 

[nageov3t]

Hillary would have lost Indiana if it wasn't for Republicans trying to screw up the process. Is that how Hillary supporters want her to win?

republicans who vote for Hillary are screwing with the process, and republicans who vote for Obama are enlightened minds recognizing the need for Hope and Change, amirite?

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Hillary would have lost Indiana if it wasn't for Republicans trying to screw up the process. Is that how Hillary supporters want her to win?

republicans who vote for Hillary are screwing with the process, and republicans who vote for Obama are enlightened minds recognizing the need for Hope and Change, amirite?

No, what I am saying is that at least 20,000 Republicans voted for Hillary to screw up the process and if they had not done so Obama would have one.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Bird222

Originally posted by: loki8481

Hillary would have lost Indiana if it wasn't for Republicans trying to screw up the process. Is that how Hillary supporters want her to win?

republicans who vote for Hillary are screwing with the process, and republicans who vote for Obama are enlightened minds recognizing the need for Hope and Change, amirite?

No, what I am saying is that at least 20,000 Republicans voted for Hillary to screw up the process and if they had not done so Obama would have one.

how can you say that they were voting to screw up the process?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Obama can't even win in his own back yard.

didn't hillary lose connecticut?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Again, senseamp

So, you feel that if, and if, Obama became President, he'd want to enslave whitey?

I'd rather not be dealing with the whole race issue for 4 years. There are more important things to deal with at this time. Economy going into crapper being top and foremost. It's going to be a distraction, really. This country is not in need of a Nelson Mandela.

the recession, assuming we ever make the 2 consecution quarters definition which i doubt we will, will almost certainly be over by the time the next president is over.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: senseamp
I'd rather not be dealing with the whole race issue for 4 years. There are more important things to deal with at this time. Economy going into crapper being top and foremost. It's going to be a distraction, really. This country is not in need of a Nelson Mandela.

lol. I guess your white because a lot of people in this country deal with the race issue their entire lives. I think you need to look deeper into your words here as they come off a little racist to me.

Here you go with the race card. It's going to be this same sh!t for 4 years with Obama supporters if he wins. It's a big racial issue for them. Anyone against him is just the man trying to keep a brother down.

dude


you've been bringing it up every time its been brought up.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: lupi
I'll be happily voting for the non-obama candidate in november. The more racist his campaign becomesn the more that will probably vote the same.

I didn't realize Obama was running a racist campaign.

news to me too

race was a non-issue until the clinto campaign made it one in sc adn later on with the medias relentless focus on wright which is a complete non-issue imo

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: lupi
I'll be happily voting for the non-obama candidate in november. The more racist his campaign becomesn the more that will probably vote the same.

I didn't realize Obama was running a racist campaign.

news to me too

race was a non-issue until the clinto campaign made it one in sc and later on with the medias relentless focus on wright which is a complete non-issue imo

I think you mean until Obama supporters took fairly innocuous statements out of context and went on a rampage declaring them to be racist over and over again until everyone gave up and just bought into the fairy tale

edit: crap, I used the words fairy tale. guess now I'm as much of a racist as Bill Clinton.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: lupi
I'll be happily voting for the non-obama candidate in november. The more racist his campaign becomesn the more that will probably vote the same.

I didn't realize Obama was running a racist campaign.

news to me too

race was a non-issue until the clinto campaign made it one in sc and later on with the medias relentless focus on wright which is a complete non-issue imo

I think you mean until Obama supporters took fairly innocuous statements out of context and went on a rampage declaring them to be racist over and over again until everyone gave up and just bought into the fairy tale

edit: crap, I used the words fairy tale. guess now I'm as much of a racist as Bill Clinton.

isn't fairy a gay slur

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: senseamp
I'd rather not be dealing with the whole race issue for 4 years. There are more important things to deal with at this time. Economy going into crapper being top and foremost. It's going to be a distraction, really. This country is not in need of a Nelson Mandela.

lol. I guess your white because a lot of people in this country deal with the race issue their entire lives. I think you need to look deeper into your words here as they come off a little racist to me.

Here you go with the race card. It's going to be this same sh!t for 4 years with Obama supporters if he wins. It's a big racial issue for them. Anyone against him is just the man trying to keep a brother down.

Good idea, let's never elect a non-white non-Christian male because of issues surrounding race, gender, and religion... that's a great way to make strides as a society :roll:

You're pathetic.

 

[StageLeft]

And 30% of Clinton voters in IN said they'd vote McCain

These sour grapes polls are completely meaningless. Save a few truly embittered zealots here and there, most of whom live on P&N, hillary supports will support Obama when he gets the nomination.

dude


you've been bringing it up every time its been brought up.

It's the "They're all racist and btw I wish we'd stop talking about race" approach.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: senseamp
I'd rather not be dealing with the whole race issue for 4 years. There are more important things to deal with at this time. Economy going into crapper being top and foremost. It's going to be a distraction, really. This country is not in need of a Nelson Mandela.

lol. I guess your white because a lot of people in this country deal with the race issue their entire lives. I think you need to look deeper into your words here as they come off a little racist to me.

Here you go with the race card. It's going to be this same sh!t for 4 years with Obama supporters if he wins. It's a big racial issue for them. Anyone against him is just the man trying to keep a brother down.

Good idea, let's never elect a non-white non-Christian male because of issues surrounding race, gender, and religion... that's a great way to make strides as a society :roll:

You're pathetic.

Obama is not just someone who happens to be black. He is member of black liberation church and was a community organizer in South Chicago. He deals with racial issues as a matter of faith, and also dealt with them as his full time job.
http://www.pickensdemocrats.or...TheAgitator_070319.htm

His 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father, recounts his idealistic effusions: "Change won't come from the top, I would say. Photo by Brooks KraftChange will come from a mobilized grass roots. That's what I'll do. I'll organize black folks. At the grass roots. For change."

After these itinerant years, he would finally be able to insinuate himself into a community--and not just any community, but, as he later put it, "the capital of the African American community in the country."

Certainly it was about race for him.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Obama is not just someone who happens to be black. He is member of black liberation church and was a community organizer in South Chicago. He deals with racial issues as a matter of faith, and also dealt with them as his full time job.
http://www.pickensdemocrats.or...TheAgitator_070319.htm

His 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father, recounts his idealistic effusions: "Change won't come from the top, I would say. Photo by Brooks KraftChange will come from a mobilized grass roots. That's what I'll do. I'll organize black folks. At the grass roots. For change."

After these itinerant years, he would finally be able to insinuate himself into a community--and not just any community, but, as he later put it, "the capital of the African American community in the country."

Certainly it was about race for him.

It's good to hear you finally admit publicly that your hatred for Obama is about his race. :thumbsup:

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

And 30% of Clinton voters in IN said they'd vote McCain

These sour grapes polls are completely meaningless. Save a few truly embittered zealots here and there, most of whom live on P&N, hillary supports will support Obama when he gets the nomination.

One of the few disputes on P&N that will actually be empirically settled.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp
Obama is not just someone who happens to be black. He is member of black liberation church and was a community organizer in South Chicago. He deals with racial issues as a matter of faith, and also dealt with them as his full time job.
http://www.pickensdemocrats.or...TheAgitator_070319.htm

His 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father, recounts his idealistic effusions: "Change won't come from the top, I would say. Photo by Brooks KraftChange will come from a mobilized grass roots. That's what I'll do. I'll organize black folks. At the grass roots. For change."

After these itinerant years, he would finally be able to insinuate himself into a community--and not just any community, but, as he later put it, "the capital of the African American community in the country."

Certainly it was about race for him.

It's good to hear you finally admit publicly that your hatred for Obama is about his race. :thumbsup:

Playing the race card may win some arguments for you, but it won't help Obama win in November.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Skoorb

And 30% of Clinton voters in IN said they'd vote McCain

These sour grapes polls are completely meaningless. Save a few truly embittered zealots here and there, most of whom live on P&N, hillary supports will support Obama when he gets the nomination.

One of the few disputes on P&N that will actually be empirically settled.

good

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: lupi
I'll be happily voting for the non-obama candidate in november. The more racist his campaign becomesn the more that will probably vote the same.

I didn't realize Obama was running a racist campaign.

news to me too

race was a non-issue until the clinto campaign made it one in sc adn later on with the medias relentless focus on wright which is a complete non-issue imo

This is the biggest load of crap. Bill Clinton's supposed racist remarks about Jesse Jackson came AFTER the vote was over in SC and blacks had already voted for Obama in lopsided numbers, 80 or 90% or whatever it was. His remarks were only played up by the media and the Obama campaign as a way to justify the extremely lopsided voting of african americans, because nobody wants to face the truth that blacks are voting for Obama because he's black, the truth that blacks as a group have a tendency to make decisions purely motivated by race more than any other group.

 

[StageLeft]

because nobody wants to face the truth that blacks are voting for Obama because he's black, the truth that blacks as a group have a tendency to make decisions purely motivated by race more than any other group.

I certainly agree that for most blacks in this country right now his race is of greater consequence to them than it is for most whites. We can bend figures all we want, but when 90+ percent of blacks are voting for him, I find it hard to stomach anything but them being substantially biased toward the color of his skin.

Doesn't really change anything, but it is interesting.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp
Obama is not just someone who happens to be black. He is member of black liberation church and was a community organizer in South Chicago. He deals with racial issues as a matter of faith, and also dealt with them as his full time job.
http://www.pickensdemocrats.or...TheAgitator_070319.htm

His 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father, recounts his idealistic effusions: "Change won't come from the top, I would say. Photo by Brooks KraftChange will come from a mobilized grass roots. That's what I'll do. I'll organize black folks. At the grass roots. For change."

After these itinerant years, he would finally be able to insinuate himself into a community--and not just any community, but, as he later put it, "the capital of the African American community in the country."

Certainly it was about race for him.

It's good to hear you finally admit publicly that your hatred for Obama is about his race. :thumbsup:

Playing the race card may win some arguments for you, but it won't help Obama win in November.

I'm just calling a spade a spade.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp
Playing the race card may win some arguments for you, but it won't help Obama win in November.

I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Funny, I think that's what senseamp was doing also.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp
Obama is not just someone who happens to be black. He is member of black liberation church and was a community organizer in South Chicago. He deals with racial issues as a matter of faith, and also dealt with them as his full time job.
http://www.pickensdemocrats.or...TheAgitator_070319.htm

His 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father, recounts his idealistic effusions: "Change won't come from the top, I would say. Photo by Brooks KraftChange will come from a mobilized grass roots. That's what I'll do. I'll organize black folks. At the grass roots. For change."

After these itinerant years, he would finally be able to insinuate himself into a community--and not just any community, but, as he later put it, "the capital of the African American community in the country."

Certainly it was about race for him.

It's good to hear you finally admit publicly that your hatred for Obama is about his race. :thumbsup:

Playing the race card may win some arguments for you, but it won't help Obama win in November.

I'm just calling a spade a spade.

wow, way to play the race card :roll: next you'll be talking about Obama not doing spadework.