so, is she going to win by like one f'ing point once all is said and done ? Would be awesome if Obama actually squeaked a win
I don't think Hillary is going to get the nomination after tonight.
However, nominating Obama is probably the most retarded thing for the Democratic Party to do. I don't expect much for a party that loses against George W. Bush to be able to do much.
AA voters will vote for a democratic candidate no matter what.
Counting youth vote? You got to be kidding me. Most younger people aren't smart enough to make decisions for themselves.
A lot of whites will not vote for Obama because of Wright. Wait till the Republicans swiftboat him. Maybe when McCain debates against Obama he'd bring it up and he would have nothing to say.
Not that I like Hillary too much. She ran a bad campaign and is kinda crooked. But don't pretend for one moment that Obama is somehow above all politicians, he isn't. The only one who has integrity in this race is John McCain, who stood up against his own party on many occasions for the good of the country. I would much rather give him the benefit of the doubt that his pandering to the right is only political, and he will be making the right choices for the country compared to a junior senator who casts present votes and vote straight party lines.
However, nominating Obama is probably the most retarded thing for the Democratic Party to do. I don't expect much for a party that loses against George W. Bush to be able to do much.
AA voters will vote for a democratic candidate no matter what.
Counting youth vote? You got to be kidding me. Most younger people aren't smart enough to make decisions for themselves.
A lot of whites will not vote for Obama because of Wright. Wait till the Republicans swiftboat him. Maybe when McCain debates against Obama he'd bring it up and he would have nothing to say.
Not that I like Hillary too much. She ran a bad campaign and is kinda crooked. But don't pretend for one moment that Obama is somehow above all politicians, he isn't. The only one who has integrity in this race is John McCain, who stood up against his own party on many occasions for the good of the country. I would much rather give him the benefit of the doubt that his pandering to the right is only political, and he will be making the right choices for the country compared to a junior senator who casts present votes and vote straight party lines.
How is it political that she sends sympathy to people? Most people in America probably don't even know where Burma is.
I have no problem with sending sympathy.
It was the absolutely wrong place in the speech to insert it. She bounced from crazed crowd chanting to awkward sympathy back to bubbly comments about Chelsea's contributions. It appeared like a political move to appear sympathetic, genuine or not.
McCain's hawkish position on the war in Iraq is the only thing that would concern me. He voted against Bush's tax cuts out of his conscience. That's integrity, voting against your own party.
Obama supporters are willing to overlook so many of his flaws and b!tch about the media being hard on him. He is the frontrunner now. I don't see anyone defending Hillary when she was the frontrunner and the media was hard on her.
Yeah, sitting down with hostile leaders Kim Jong Il will solve all the world's problems, NOT. Stop being so naive about Obama's "change". It's just political pondering.
But Obamabots will still support an empty suit.
For it to be a "political tool" it has to win votes. Saying those things wouldn't win her votes. Nice try.
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I give them a lot of credit frankly. The black vote was originally somewhat split between Clinton and Obama (which should show, it's not purely based on race) but went heavily to Obama after Bill Clinton's racially charged comments and playing of the race card. But as someone said earlier, if every single president to this point had been black and there is finally a white candidate coming along who happens to share your political beliefs, would you not be excited at the possibility?
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I'm curious... does anyone have an estimate of how many of Hilary's "votes" in Indiana are actually from Republicans who switched parties to vote for Hilary like Rush Limbaugh asked them to?
I'm betting that it's something small like 30,000, but it would make the race a lot tighter once you factor that in.
I'm betting that it's something small like 30,000, but it would make the race a lot tighter once you factor that in.
according to CNN, obama only needs 58 - 57 % of that vote to pull a win
Seems very plausible if the youth and AA vote came out.
Hmm, when was the last time white college educated youth and AA came out to represent in droves?
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