May 6th Primaries Thread

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Duddy

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Barbara Olsen finished writing this book before she was killed when her plane crashed into the WTC on 9/11. I gave it a read in 2002. I suggest that if you think Hillary is an honest person, that you read it.

 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
I hope the super delegates settle this soon, this one is a throwaway nomination at this point anyways, thanks to Obama.

President Obama. Get used to hearing those words.

He won't win in the general election.

Again, if America has loved the last 8 years, then we deserve it.........

Obama gives us no choice.

Gives. You. No. Choice.

You seem to be offended that Obama is fighting to win and has a large lead in the battle.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
I hope the super delegates settle this soon, this one is a throwaway nomination at this point anyways, thanks to Obama.

President Obama. Get used to hearing those words.

He won't win in the general election.

Willing to put your money where your mouth is? I am. Let me know.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
It's sad how racist the black vote has been in this primary.

:roll:

You don't think they are voting based on race when over 90% vote for Obama?

Your trolling is old and stale. Is it racism when white people vote for the white candidate?

90+%?

Suppose an Asian ran successfully for governor of CA for the first time in history. Would it be racism if that person got a very large percentage of the Asian vote? Particularly considering that state's history?

The answer is a simple no.

I am NOT saying that minorities can't be racist. Far from it, I believe that they very much can. What I am saying is that this is not an example of racism by any stretch of the imagination.

Riight, I doubt even you believe this. If they are making a decision based on his race, they are racist by definition.
 

rockyct

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Originally posted by: loki8481
I'm in a weird place.

I like Hillary... I feel a need to defend her when DB's on this forum attack her for stupid and petty reasons, especially when Obama reminds me of the guy who ran the new age shop in my college town sometimes; I thought she was a pretty good senator when I lived in NY and I think she'd make a damn fine president. but come on. I think it's over.

I understand what you're saying. I have VAN BUREN in my sig to parody doublerofl and his OBAMA sig because something like that makes your side look like its full of idiots. I respect Hillary and know that she woud probably be a decent president and I agree with 90% of her views, which is as much as I can expect in a candidate I support. Obama attracts new voters and people unexperience in the election process for better or for worse. So, a lot of his supporters do not have a clue what he really stands for and just like the fact that he can give a coherent speech unlike our current president.

Ultimately, I personally believe that the culture of partisan politics is horrible in Washington and I'd rather take the larger risk of Obama with the larger reward, than the smaller risk and smaller reward with Clinton. 95% of their policies match, but this was the reason I voted for Obama. If Clinton won the nomination, I would have easily voted for her over McCain. Tonight does mean the end for her and I'm sure her campaign knows it. Like I said before, I understood why she stayed in the race and I didn't mind that she did. She exposed some of his weakness early but not enough to cripple him as he's still outpolls McCain slightly. She also helped add 3.5 million of new voters and generated large interest, which can only help the Democratic party in the fall. She may not be the nominee this year, but I think her campaign helped the party overall and she will always remain a key figure in Washingon.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
I hope the super delegates settle this soon, this one is a throwaway nomination at this point anyways, thanks to Obama.

President Obama. Get used to hearing those words.

He won't win in the general election.

Willing to put your money where your mouth is? I am. Let me know.

Maybe I'll give it to McCain. I hate supporting a Republican, but the Democrat party doesn't need an Obama presidency. The guy is an empty suit.
 

Duddy

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White guys, as a fellow cracker, put yourself in a black mans shoes.

Imagine that every President in US history has been black. And all of a sudden a white guy (Obama) comes along and promises change.

You CANNOT tell me that you wouldn't vote for Obama then. I sure as hell would!!!
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
It's sad how racist the black vote has been in this primary.

:roll:

You don't think they are voting based on race when over 90% vote for Obama?

Your trolling is old and stale. Is it racism when white people vote for the white candidate?

90+%?

Suppose an Asian ran successfully for governor of CA for the first time in history. Would it be racism if that person got a very large percentage of the Asian vote? Particularly considering that state's history?

The answer is a simple no.

I am NOT saying that minorities can't be racist. Far from it, I believe that they very much can. What I am saying is that this is not an example of racism by any stretch of the imagination.

Riight, I doubt even you believe this. If they are making a decision based on his race, they are racist by definition.

Uhh... no. What you are doing, lumping individuals together in this fashion, is racism. What they are doing, voting for one of their own makes good, is not. By definition.
Why is it that simple concepts like this are always the hardest for you to understand?
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
I hope the super delegates settle this soon, this one is a throwaway nomination at this point anyways, thanks to Obama.

President Obama. Get used to hearing those words.

He won't win in the general election.

Willing to put your money where your mouth is? I am. Let me know.

Maybe I'll give it to McCain. I hate supporting a Republican, but the Democrat party doesn't need an Obama presidency. The guy is an empty suit.

You keep saying "empty suit."

What does that mean?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
I hope the super delegates settle this soon, this one is a throwaway nomination at this point anyways, thanks to Obama.

President Obama. Get used to hearing those words.

He won't win in the general election.

Willing to put your money where your mouth is? I am. Let me know.

Maybe I'll give it to McCain. I hate supporting a Republican, but the Democrat party doesn't need an Obama presidency. The guy is an empty suit.

In other words, no, you're not willing to put your money where your mouth is.

Got it.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Obama's speech:

You know, some were saying that North Carolina would be a game-changer in this election. But today, what North Carolina decided is that the only game that needs changing is the one in Washington, DC.
Looks like the next 'scandal' may already be brewing for Obama.

Speaking to the Teamsters Obama said the following
SEN. BARACK OBAMA, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think you will have someone in the White House you will know and trust and who you have history with. Then you're going to see a change in terms of how we evaluate the agreements.
For a guy who wants to 'change the game' seems like he is just offering more of the same.

Why doesn't he come right out and say "you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back"??

BTW he was speaking about the oversight the Feds currently have on the teamster union. Apparently the Teamsters want it lifted, but no one else seems to think they have done enough to move away from the mob yet.
 

nageov3t

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You know, some were saying that North Carolina would be a game-changer in this election. But today, what North Carolina decided is that the only game that needs changing is the one in Washington, DC.

he realizes that he's a part of washington dc, right?
 

Duddy

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
I hope the super delegates settle this soon, this one is a throwaway nomination at this point anyways, thanks to Obama.

President Obama. Get used to hearing those words.

He won't win in the general election.

Willing to put your money where your mouth is? I am. Let me know.

Maybe I'll give it to McCain. I hate supporting a Republican, but the Democrat party doesn't need an Obama presidency. The guy is an empty suit.

In other words, no, you're not willing to put your money where your mouth is.

Got it.

LULZ PWNED
 

OREOSpeedwagon

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
I hope the super delegates settle this soon, this one is a throwaway nomination at this point anyways, thanks to Obama.

President Obama. Get used to hearing those words.

He won't win in the general election.

Willing to put your money where your mouth is? I am. Let me know.

Maybe I'll give it to McCain. I hate supporting a Republican, but the Democrat party doesn't need an Obama presidency. The guy is an empty suit.

A militant group in Nigeria is considering a ceasefire after hearing Obama urge them to stop attacking Shell facilities. And he's not even president yet. Obama can and will deliver :)
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Duddy
White guys, as a fellow cracker, put yourself in a black mans shoes.

Imagine that every President in US history has been black. And all of a sudden a white guy (Obama) comes along and promises change.

You CANNOT tell me that you wouldn't vote for Obama then. I sure as hell would!!!

Thank you.

I warn you though that I already made this argument several times in the past few months, and it hasn't stopped senseamp yet.
 

Bitek

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Originally posted by: Duddy
At this point alone, Hillary has proved that she isn't a strong enough candidate to beat McCain.

Hillary must drop out now! If she doesn't, the democrats risk losing the race.

Hillary has been terrible. If she can't win Dems over w/ Bill, all the Clinton connections and history vs a "lightweight" newbie state senator (as she would call him) who's had a terrible few weeks, how is she possibly a strong candidate for the fall.

She had every advantage you could ask for, all the lucky breaks, and she's had a poor showing. Very few states has she won convincingly, but has been blown out in a huge 3 of them by Obama. With all the Wright crap and she can't even win big in IN (if at all.) Its time to end this.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: senseamp
I hope the super delegates settle this soon, this one is a throwaway nomination at this point anyways, thanks to Obama.

President Obama. Get used to hearing those words.

He won't win in the general election.
Not if the hillary supports keep being crybabies about it.
 

OREOSpeedwagon

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Originally posted by: Hafen
Originally posted by: Duddy
At this point alone, Hillary has proved that she isn't a strong enough candidate to beat McCain.

Hillary must drop out now! If she doesn't, the democrats risk losing the race.

Hillary has been terrible. If she can't win Dems over w/ Bill, all the Clinton connections and history vs a "lightweight" newbie state senator (as she would call him) who's had a terrible few weeks, how is she possibly a strong candidate for the fall.

She had every advantage you could ask for, all the lucky breaks, and she's had a poor showing. Very few states has she won convincingly, but has been blown out in a huge 3 of them by Obama. With all the Wright crap and she can't even win big in IN (if at all.) Its time to end this.

Agreed. Her only options now are to drop out, or continue on and try and win West Virginia and Kentucky even though she has no chance of beating Obama in delegates or popular vote. If she keeps on, it just makes her and her supporters look bad, as well as further dividing the Democratic party. Hopefully she'll take the high road.
 

Lemon law

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Sorry boys and girls, when I last left TV news, Obama had already won North Carolina fairly big and conceded he had probably lost Indiana small. And gave what I thought was a dynamite speech in the process. Hillary has yet to claim Indiana
and an interesting speech she has yet to make.

Of the two primaries of May 6, Obama is still the big winner, he will net the most delegates in the 115 + 72 contested.
 

nonameo

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Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon
Originally posted by: Hafen
Originally posted by: Duddy
At this point alone, Hillary has proved that she isn't a strong enough candidate to beat McCain.

Hillary must drop out now! If she doesn't, the democrats risk losing the race.

Hillary has been terrible. If she can't win Dems over w/ Bill, all the Clinton connections and history vs a "lightweight" newbie state senator (as she would call him) who's had a terrible few weeks, how is she possibly a strong candidate for the fall.

She had every advantage you could ask for, all the lucky breaks, and she's had a poor showing. Very few states has she won convincingly, but has been blown out in a huge 3 of them by Obama. With all the Wright crap and she can't even win big in IN (if at all.) Its time to end this.

Agreed. Her only options now are to drop out, or continue on and try and win West Virginia and Kentucky even though she has no chance of beating Obama in delegates or popular vote. If she keeps on, it just makes her and her supporters look bad, as well as further dividing the Democratic party. Hopefully she'll take the high road.

I think we will see her drop out as soon as we pass a point in which she has no possibility of throwing Michigan and Florida into the mix. Until then, count on her staying in.

From a politico article:

So Clinton?s argument depends on the actions of the party?s Rules and Bylaws Committee when it meets May 31 to consider pro-Clinton challenges that would seat those delegations.

Clinton?s new magic number to clinch the nomination is 2,209 delegates, compared to the 2,025 that would be needed without Florida and Michigan.
 

mflacy

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Hillary coming out for a speech.

"It's full speed onto the White House." LMAO!
 

conehead433

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Hillary is done. She agreed to abide by the rules but the she appeared in FL before the primary. After she had agreed not to campaign she appeared, which is basically the same as campaigning.