Matt Damon can't take a joke...

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imported_hscorpio

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: hscorpioThe fact is no one here knows 100% if this was staged or not.
This part of your post is why I hate the politically correct movement.

I know without a doubt that this was staged. Why? Because I am neither stupid nor gullible. If you think this was real, then you need to own up to being either the former or the latter.


WTF are you talking about? This has absolutely nothing to do with politcal correctness. And you are either intellectually dishonest or a fly that happened to be on the wall when Damon and Kimmel discussed the bit. And what part of "I don't know" confuses you?

You really don't need to be a "fly that happened to be on the wall" to employ basic reasoning, and if you do so you should quickly realize that the probability of it being real is very, very small.

How small exactly? Care to show us your calculations? Also what probability is equivalent to 'without a doubt'?
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: hscorpioThe fact is no one here knows 100% if this was staged or not.
This part of your post is why I hate the politically correct movement.

I know without a doubt that this was staged. Why? Because I am neither stupid nor gullible. If you think this was real, then you need to own up to being either the former or the latter.


WTF are you talking about? This has absolutely nothing to do with politcal correctness. And you are either intellectually dishonest or a fly that happened to be on the wall when Damon and Kimmel discussed the bit. And what part of "I don't know" confuses you?

You really don't need to be a "fly that happened to be on the wall" to employ basic reasoning, and if you do so you should quickly realize that the probability of it being real is very, very small.

How small exactly? Care to show us your calculations? Also what probability is equivalent to 'without a doubt'?

Let's turn this the other way: What information do you have that suggests it wasn't staged? I know this is a somewhat fallacious argument, but consider first the more than ample evidence that it was staged:

1) What A-list (assuming he is, not sure) would be the last guest on the show?
2) What show would bring out an actor when they know there are only a few seconds left?
3) The video showed that there was a running joke about not having enough time for Matt Damon.
4) It was actually aired. This might be a loose argument, but I don't see an actor like Damon having an outburst and then having it aired.

That should be sufficient. Now, back to your evidence. What do you have?

1) He was convincing.

Really? He's an actor! It's almost tautological to suggest that his convincing demonstration was support for the fact that it was real.

So far, I can conclude this about you:

1) You'll likely believe the most improbable scenario despite evidence to the contrary.
2) You'll then use the trite argument, "Nothing is known 100%" to justify your position. Since nothing is known 100% then you're free to hold any position you wish, regardless of how nonsensical it might be.

 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: hscorpio
Are you sure of that without a doubt?
More in the realm of "with actuarial certainty".

Quantitatively more assured than "without a doubt".
 

yllus

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Added evidence to the above that it was a joke:

- The overly long introduction, meant to run down the remaining time
- The camera just happened to cut to Ben Stiller who just happened to be sitting in the audience and just happened to roll his eyes at the overlong intro at the right time
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: hscorpioThe fact is no one here knows 100% if this was staged or not.
This part of your post is why I hate the politically correct movement.

I know without a doubt that this was staged. Why? Because I am neither stupid nor gullible. If you think this was real, then you need to own up to being either the former or the latter.


WTF are you talking about? This has absolutely nothing to do with politcal correctness. And you are either intellectually dishonest or a fly that happened to be on the wall when Damon and Kimmel discussed the bit. And what part of "I don't know" confuses you?

You really don't need to be a "fly that happened to be on the wall" to employ basic reasoning, and if you do so you should quickly realize that the probability of it being real is very, very small.

How small exactly? Care to show us your calculations? Also what probability is equivalent to 'without a doubt'?

Let's turn this the other way: What information do you have that suggests it wasn't staged? I know this is a somewhat fallacious argument, but consider first the more than ample evidence that it was staged:

1) What A-list (assuming he is, not sure) would be the last guest on the show?
2) What show would bring out an actor when they know there are only a few seconds left?
3) The video showed that there was a running joke about not having enough time for Matt Damon.
4) It was actually aired. This might be a loose argument, but I don't see an actor like Damon having an outburst and then having it aired.

That should be sufficient. Now, back to your evidence. What do you have?

1) He was convincing.

Really? He's an actor! It's almost tautological to suggest that his convincing demonstration was support for the fact that it was real.

So far, I can conclude this about you:

1) You'll likely believe the most improbable scenario despite evidence to the contrary.
2) You'll then use the trite argument, "Nothing is known 100%" to justify your position. Since nothing is known 100% then you're free to hold any position you wish, regardless of how nonsensical it might be.

Is hscorpio related to dave? :p
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Also what probability is equivalent to 'without a doubt'?
Somewhere between 0 and 1.

Likely closer to 1.


Are you sure of that without a doubt?

I am most certainly sure. The "setup" conclusion comes from observing the obvious. The alternative is so clearly absurd as to preclude any doubt.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: KK
some reason I think that's how that was supposed to go.


I wouldn't be surprised, but it still made me laugh. Look at his neck when he's saying "F#%@K YOU" with his veins popping out.
He's a pretty good actor! :laugh:


I also don't know why he would drop the F-bomb so much if it was staged. Remember this is abc we're talking about. Also why does he wait untill the end to throw his fit after Jimmy says Goodnght everyone? I can't help but want to believe he wasn't acting but is saying it was staged now to save face and look like a good sport.

They wouldnt show it if it wasnt a bit. His lawyers would have been all over blocking it
 

AbAbber2k

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lol that was hilarious
Only ever watched the very first showing of Jimmy Kimmel Live... him and Carolla (sp?) had awesome chemistry on The Man Show.
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does anyone really believe that Matt Damon would actually be back stage for the Jimmy Kimmel show every time he got bumped?

And if this wasn't a joke, and knowing he's been bumped a bazillion times, why would he make a grand entrance with 15 seconds left in the show and then act surprised that the show ended?

It's sad that people have to be spoon fed, "this is a joke" in order to get it....

Didn't look staged to me when I was watching it. Damon seemed genuinely pissed.

Obviously Matt wasn't there those other days, and it's just been a running joke. But now Matt actually has a movie to promote so he did show up, and Jimmy decided to continue the joke at his expense. The guests don't know how much time is left in the show, so he didn't realize that there were only 15 seconds left. Nothing about that scenario makes this obviously a staged joke.
 

imported_hscorpio

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: hscorpioThe fact is no one here knows 100% if this was staged or not.
This part of your post is why I hate the politically correct movement.

I know without a doubt that this was staged. Why? Because I am neither stupid nor gullible. If you think this was real, then you need to own up to being either the former or the latter.


WTF are you talking about? This has absolutely nothing to do with politcal correctness. And you are either intellectually dishonest or a fly that happened to be on the wall when Damon and Kimmel discussed the bit. And what part of "I don't know" confuses you?

You really don't need to be a "fly that happened to be on the wall" to employ basic reasoning, and if you do so you should quickly realize that the probability of it being real is very, very small.

How small exactly? Care to show us your calculations? Also what probability is equivalent to 'without a doubt'?

Let's turn this the other way: What information do you have that suggests it wasn't staged? I know this is a somewhat fallacious argument, but consider first the more than ample evidence that it was staged:

1) What A-list (assuming he is, not sure) would be the last guest on the show?
2) What show would bring out an actor when they know there are only a few seconds left?
3) The video showed that there was a running joke about not having enough time for Matt Damon.
4) It was actually aired. This might be a loose argument, but I don't see an actor like Damon having an outburst and then having it aired.

That should be sufficient. Now, back to your evidence. What do you have?

1) He was convincing.

Really? He's an actor! It's almost tautological to suggest that his convincing demonstration was support for the fact that it was real.

So far, I can conclude this about you:

1) You'll likely believe the most improbable scenario despite evidence to the contrary.
2) You'll then use the trite argument, "Nothing is known 100%" to justify your position. Since nothing is known 100% then you're free to hold any position you wish, regardless of how nonsensical it might be.
I'll play along;

1.) Due to the running gag that Matt Damon was supposed to be the last guest but there wasn't enough time, it is certainly possible that Damon would agree to play along and go on last.
2.) How do you know they knew only seconds remained? Maybe Damon never knew kimmel was going to recite his entire career taking up time. Maybe they went over with the last guest?
3.) The fact that the running joke was shown was all the more reason that Damon would agree to go last, see 1.
4.) It was bleeped. The obscenities and fit didn't come until after Kimmel signaled the end of the show and the main camera went black, (did they go to commercial or straight to credits?) There appears to be a gap before we see Damon cursing with the credits rolling, maybe he thought the main camera was off him?
5.) He was very convincing at looking like an ass. What celeb would want to look like an ass when they could have played it more favorably? Why so many obscenities to the point no one will even know whats being said? Knowing that so many people are gullible why make it look so real instead of being obvious that your in on the joke? He could have easily acted out a pg-13 vesion of 'mad' no?
6.) Jimmy Kimmel is known for taking jokes to far and trying to get a rise out of people to the point that Kimmel can look like a real jerk. This would have been a perfect opportunity to screw with Damon in such a way.
7.) What celeb wants to take time out of their schedule to make a "rare" tv show appearance only to be cut and then shown throwing a fit? You think he didn't want to talk about his new movie? You think his publicist would agree to him going on the show without getting to make any plugs?

You can't honestly say you don't have a doubt.

I'm not saying I know he was really mad. I don't know, but I'd rather assume it was real because it makes it more entertaining for me. Now if you asked me to make a wager I'd likely choose staged, but I wanted to laugh when I saw this (hence why I was looking around break.com) so I like to imagine its real. Get it? Basically its the same reason why 99% of people believe in God, because it makes them feel better than thinking their just some random act of nature. (this thread is going places...). Whats the point in thinking its staged? Does it make you feel intelligent that those slick tv people didn't get one past you? Is the joke any more funny from that perspective? Not to me.

Your conclusions about me lead me to conclude your terrible at making conclusions.

 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Let's turn this the other way: What information do you have that suggests it wasn't staged? I know this is a somewhat fallacious argument, but consider first the more than ample evidence that it was staged:

1) What A-list (assuming he is, not sure) would be the last guest on the show?
2) What show would bring out an actor when they know there are only a few seconds left?
3) The video showed that there was a running joke about not having enough time for Matt Damon.
4) It was actually aired. This might be a loose argument, but I don't see an actor like Damon having an outburst and then having it aired.

That should be sufficient. Now, back to your evidence. What do you have?

1) He was convincing.

Really? He's an actor! It's almost tautological to suggest that his convincing demonstration was support for the fact that it was real.

So far, I can conclude this about you:

1) You'll likely believe the most improbable scenario despite evidence to the contrary.
2) You'll then use the trite argument, "Nothing is known 100%" to justify your position. Since nothing is known 100% then you're free to hold any position you wish, regardless of how nonsensical it might be.

As to your argument.

1. Why do you assume he knew he was the last guest on the show?

2. What show would bring out an actor when there were only seconds left? One that is intentionally bringing out an actor with only seconds left to be funny.

3. What does the running joke have to do with this show, except that it made if funnier? Obviously Matt wasn't there those other times. Are you saying that having a running joke about Matt somehow makes it less likely that they'd do it for real given the opportunity? Why? I would submit that having the running joke going would make it more likely that they'd pull something like this given the chance.

4. You admitted from the start how stupid that argument is. The show that would play a joke like that would be the same type to air it. And assuming it was real, they've ruined any goodwill with Matt anyway, so why not air it?


To say that logic causes you to "know" that it was staged is a joke unless you have much better arguments than the ones you stated here.
 

Slick5150

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This thread is WAY funnier than the video is just due to the fact that people honestly believe it was real.
 

TheNinja

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It was pretty funny but it seems staged to me. He overreacts and I'm sure it was all part of the plan. I obviously don't know Damon, but I think if it happened for real, he wouldn't have flown off the handle like that.
 

dr150

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You guys are so, so sad that don't get that this is a sketcharoo.

His movie is coming out which is why he's doing promos....
 

Baked

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LMAO I thought he was gonna pull out a gun and shoot jimmy in the face.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Do people honestly believe he went off over being bumped knowing the previous jokes? :laugh:

Of course Ben Stiller is sitting there rolling his eyes at the right moment (which he would do if it wasn't staged? :roll: ) Hilarious. Hey I am Matt Damon I am going to go Tom Cruise on a two bit late night television show to ruin my public image because I am an A list actor who needs to drop to the B- list :roll: by dropping a bunch of F-bombs. I also don't know the scheduling of the taping of this two-bit show and know that it has been taping.

 

SludgeFactory

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Sep 14, 2001
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Wow.

It's a COMEDY BIT. As already mentioned, the cut to Stiller looking at his watch should have been the final clue for the remaining 1% of the viewing audience with sub 80 IQ's who hadn't picked up on the theme of the joke.

I weep for our future.