Materazzi admits he insulted Zidane

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aswedc

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
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Is he really telling the truth or is he under pressure from people to preserve Zidane's legacy?
Huh? Of course he insulted him. You think Zidane just randomly decided to take him down?
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: BigJ
BBC Radio Five Live asked for help from a deaf lip reader, Jessica Rees, who read the words phonetically to an Italian translator.

She deciphered the insult as being "you're the son of a terrorist whore" - a translation also carried by many national newspapers in Britain on Tuesday.

The BBC's Ten O'Clock News also called in experts to study the television footage of the incident and determined the following:

Materazzi's first word to Zidane was "no" before he then told him to "calm down".

He then accused him of being a "liar" and wished "an ugly death to you and your family" on the day the Frenchman's mother had been taken to hospital ill. This was followed by "Go f*** yourself".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5168890.stm

Shens. I've seen the video, there's no way he had time to say, "no, calm down. you're a lliar, I wish an ugly death of you and your family. Go f*** yourself."

Besides which that's a horribly convoluted sentence.
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: BigJ
BBC Radio Five Live asked for help from a deaf lip reader, Jessica Rees, who read the words phonetically to an Italian translator.

She deciphered the insult as being "you're the son of a terrorist whore" - a translation also carried by many national newspapers in Britain on Tuesday.

The BBC's Ten O'Clock News also called in experts to study the television footage of the incident and determined the following:

Materazzi's first word to Zidane was "no" before he then told him to "calm down".

He then accused him of being a "liar" and wished "an ugly death to you and your family" on the day the Frenchman's mother had been taken to hospital ill. This was followed by "Go f*** yourself".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5168890.stm

Shens. I've seen the video, there's no way he had time to say, "no, calm down. you're a lliar, I wish an ugly death of you and your family. Go f*** yourself."

Besides which that's a horribly convoluted sentence.

You speak Italian?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: BigJ
BBC Radio Five Live asked for help from a deaf lip reader, Jessica Rees, who read the words phonetically to an Italian translator.

She deciphered the insult as being "you're the son of a terrorist whore" - a translation also carried by many national newspapers in Britain on Tuesday.

The BBC's Ten O'Clock News also called in experts to study the television footage of the incident and determined the following:

Materazzi's first word to Zidane was "no" before he then told him to "calm down".

He then accused him of being a "liar" and wished "an ugly death to you and your family" on the day the Frenchman's mother had been taken to hospital ill. This was followed by "Go f*** yourself".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5168890.stm

Shens. I've seen the video, there's no way he had time to say, "no, calm down. you're a lliar, I wish an ugly death of you and your family. Go f*** yourself."

Besides which that's a horribly convoluted sentence.

So you speak Italian? Not to mention almost ten seconds elapsed, if not more between the shirt grab and the headbutt.
 

TheNinja

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Big deal. Those guys trash talk all the time. No words should allow a person to physically attack someone else on the field. If you do attack someone, prepare to face the consequences....hence a red card. I feel no sympathy for Zidane and I'm sure it was part of the Italians' game plan to try to get into his head. It happens in all sports....the mental part of the game to see if the guy will lose his cool. Tough crap to Zidane as he will always be remembered for potentially costing his team the cup.
 

randay

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Queasy
"I did insult him, it's true," Materazzi said in Tuesday's Gazzetta dello Sport. "But I categorically did not call him a terrorist. I'm not cultured and I don't even know what an Islamic terrorist is."

:confused:

my thoughts exactly


I guess it depends on what the definition of is is.
 

mrSHEiK124

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LMAO
"I held his shirt for a few seconds only, then he turned round and spoke to me, sneering," the Italian defender told the newspaper. "He looked me up and down, arrogantly and said: 'If you really want my shirt, I'll give it to you afterwards.'"
Conclusion: Zinedine Zidane is the next Chuck Norris/Jack Bauer/Mr. T/Vin Diesel
 

deftron

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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: Nyati13
From BBC:
" BBC Radio Five Live asked for help from a deaf lip reader, Jessica Rees, who read the words phonetically to an Italian translator.

She deciphered the insult as being "you're the son of a terrorist whore" - a translation also carried by many national newspapers in Britain on Tuesday. "

I think Materazzi is lying about the terrorist part, and about the mother part. That's a twofer :p in lying.

Red Card?

Ref never heard it.


Ref never saw the headbutt either

The penalty was called down from upstairs



 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
Big deal. Those guys trash talk all the time. No words should allow a person to physically attack someone else on the field. If you do attack someone, prepare to face the consequences....hence a red card. I feel no sympathy for Zidane and I'm sure it was part of the Italians' game plan to try to get into his head. It happens in all sports....the mental part of the game to see if the guy will lose his cool. Tough crap to Zidane as he will always be remembered for potentially costing his team the cup.

Well put :thumbsup:
 

Homerboy

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the #1 rule in any sport is no matter what is said you don't react. Its the reaction that gets caught and penalized RARELY the impetus for the actions. ZZ should have been a professional and just kept walking.

 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
the #1 rule in any sport is no matter what is said you don't react. Its the reaction that gets caught and penalized RARELY the impetus for the actions. ZZ should have been a professional and just kept walking.

That's not always true. Sometimes you react and don't get caught then the other guy reacts to your reaction and gets caught. That happens a lot in basketball.

 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: Homerboy
the #1 rule in any sport is no matter what is said you don't react. Its the reaction that gets caught and penalized RARELY the impetus for the actions. ZZ should have been a professional and just kept walking.

That's not always true. Sometimes you react and don't get caught then the other guy reacts to your reaction and gets caught. That happens a lot in basketball.


you and I much watch different basketball games
 

TXHokie

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What's the big deal? I find it great that a French guy stand up for himself given all the bad press about how wimpy France is lately.
Italy guy insults French soccer player, French player headbutts him, Italian guy cries - pwned!!! End of story.

Yeah, I vote ZZ as the next action movie star too.
 
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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: Homerboy
the #1 rule in any sport is no matter what is said you don't react. Its the reaction that gets caught and penalized RARELY the impetus for the actions. ZZ should have been a professional and just kept walking.

That's not always true. Sometimes you react and don't get caught then the other guy reacts to your reaction and gets caught. That happens a lot in basketball.


you and I much watch different basketball games

ben wallace in the brawl
 

UDT89

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Originally posted by: TXHokie
What's the big deal? I find it great that a French guy stand up for himself given all the bad press about how wimpy France is lately.
Italy guy insults French soccer player, French player headbutts him, Italian guy cries - Italy wins World Cup End of story.

Yeah, I vote ZZ as the next action movie star too.

corrected. Bottom line, you dont get paid to do that stuff......especially in the final game, in OT when your team has been on the offensive all OT.

what player replaced ZZ in the PKs?

 

Soccer55

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Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: TXHokie
What's the big deal? I find it great that a French guy stand up for himself given all the bad press about how wimpy France is lately.
Italy guy insults French soccer player, French player headbutts him, Italian guy cries - Italy wins World Cup End of story.

Yeah, I vote ZZ as the next action movie star too.

corrected. Bottom line, you dont get paid to do that stuff......especially in the final game, in OT when your team has been on the offensive all OT.

what player replaced ZZ in the PKs?

Since Zidane got red carded, France could not sub a player in for him for the shootout. So technically, no one replaced Zidane for the penalties. However, there was a player that took a penalty that normally would not have been in the first 5 with Zidane in the match, but I couldn't tell you who that would have been. Also, France only took 4 penalties since Italy clinched the win on their 5th attempt, so it could have been whoever was going to take the 5th shot that was Zidane's "replacement".

-Tom
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: Soccer55
Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: TXHokie
What's the big deal? I find it great that a French guy stand up for himself given all the bad press about how wimpy France is lately.
Italy guy insults French soccer player, French player headbutts him, Italian guy cries - Italy wins World Cup End of story.

Yeah, I vote ZZ as the next action movie star too.

corrected. Bottom line, you dont get paid to do that stuff......especially in the final game, in OT when your team has been on the offensive all OT.

what player replaced ZZ in the PKs?

Since Zidane got red carded, France could not sub a player in for him for the shootout. So technically, no one replaced Zidane for the penalties. However, there was a player that took a penalty that normally would not have been in the first 5 with Zidane in the match, but I couldn't tell you who that would have been. Also, France only took 4 penalties since Italy clinched the win on their 5th attempt, so it could have been whoever was going to take the 5th shot that was Zidane's "replacement".

-Tom

True. To say that ZZ lost France the World Cup is really stretching it. There were only 10 minutes left in the 2nd OT. Most likely than not, the game would have ended in a tie anyways. It was David Trezeguet who missed the PK for France, and most likely he would still have taken a PK even if Zidane did not get sent off.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Soccer55
Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: TXHokie
What's the big deal? I find it great that a French guy stand up for himself given all the bad press about how wimpy France is lately.
Italy guy insults French soccer player, French player headbutts him, Italian guy cries - Italy wins World Cup End of story.

Yeah, I vote ZZ as the next action movie star too.

corrected. Bottom line, you dont get paid to do that stuff......especially in the final game, in OT when your team has been on the offensive all OT.

what player replaced ZZ in the PKs?

Since Zidane got red carded, France could not sub a player in for him for the shootout. So technically, no one replaced Zidane for the penalties. However, there was a player that took a penalty that normally would not have been in the first 5 with Zidane in the match, but I couldn't tell you who that would have been. Also, France only took 4 penalties since Italy clinched the win on their 5th attempt, so it could have been whoever was going to take the 5th shot that was Zidane's "replacement".

-Tom

True. To say that ZZ lost France the World Cup is really stretching it. There were only 10 minutes left in the 2nd OT. Most likely than not, the game would have ended in a tie anyways. It was David Trezeguet who missed the PK for France, and most likely he would still have taken a PK even if Zidane did not get sent off.

It's impossible to say. Having your captain thrown off the field, and then realizing what he did is a hell of a blow. I wouldn't doubt that it had something to do with Trez missing the PK.
 

manly

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Some casual fans in the WC final thread have exaggerated Zidane's classiness by confusing that with his crisp, artistic play. Sportsmanship and his magical skills are two different things. At the moment the incident happened, I was actually kind of pleased by his reaction. I knew Materazzi had spewed some form of cheap shot, and although Zidane should have maintained his composure, he reacted in the heat of the moment. Materazzi curled into a fetal position like a big baby.

The best quote came from Zizou's teammate Thierry Henry:
You can take the man out of the rough neighborhood, but you can't take the rough neighborhood out of the man.

Personally, I don't think this really tarnishes Zidane's legacy. However, it does diminish his stature from where it would have been if France had won the championship, amongst the top all-time greats such as Pele.
 

Childs

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Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
I think Zidane should have kicked him in the balls.

I dunno...that was one wicked headbutt! Like the Rhino going after Spider Man!
 

DukeN

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Good, that snotty greasy haired homo deserved it. Good for ZZ to have some balls and not take ******, I think I'm gonna buy a ZZ jersey now.