Match or ligher?

[crownjules]

The only thing I smoke nowadays is a cigar, so matches it is.

 

[BoomerD]

Back when I was working my 1st paycheck job, at the car wash, a lot of clients have matches in their car. I would collect these matches, so I ended up with lots and lots of matches. Some of the match boxes look like cigarette boxes, so I kept a few of the fancy ones.

I also have 2 Zippo Lighters.

So...you're a thief? You stole the matches from the customers in the car wash?

Git a rope!

 

[highland145]

So...you're a thief? You stole the matches from the customers in the car wash?

Git a rope!

Probably eats N.Y. based hot sauce, too.

Boomer, I could get by with just trying that opener a few times.

 

[BoomerD]

Probably eats N.Y. based hot sauce, too.

Boomer, I could get by with just trying that opener a few times.

Borrowing it might be OK, but be careful. It sucks when you poke fun at them and they take it seriously...

 

[highland145]

Borrowing it might be OK, but be careful. It sucks when you poke fun at them and they take it seriously...

Then the really high maintenance begins.

 

[KeithTalent]

I love the old school wooden matches; very satisfying for some reason. I do have a Zippo that I use on occasion; has a drawing of a circuit board on it.

KT

 

[Nebbers]

But you can with a lighter.

You can open a bottle with a regular ol' Bic, very easily actually. One of the most useful party tricks I've learned. There's not always a bottle opener, but there's almost always a lighter in someone's pocket.

 

[BoomerD]

I love the old school wooden matches; very satisfying for some reason. I do have a Zippo that I use on occasion; has a drawing of a circuit board on it.

KT

The old "strike anywhere" lucifers can be pretty handy...but they can also be hazardous. I had a friend start his pants on fire with a pocketful of those...(maybe 45 years ago) Burned his leg pretty good before he got his Levi's off...being good friends, we laughed our asses off at him...standing there in his tighty-whities on a busy downtown street...and his pants mostly ashes.

 

[Locut0s]

The old "strike anywhere" lucifers can be pretty handy...but they can also be hazardous. I had a friend start his pants on fire with a pocketful of those...(maybe 45 years ago) Burned his leg pretty good before he got his Levi's off...being good friends, we laughed our asses off at him...standing there in his tighty-whities on a busy downtown street...and his pants mostly ashes.

What was he doing with a pocket full of loose strike anywheres?

 

[alkemyst]

just match heads in a piece of threaded pipe is a pretty effective bomb.

 

[Rubycon]

No option for laser?

If it's matches it's gotta be ohio blue tipped strike anywhere matches.

 

[kimberly175]

Zippo Armor Antique Silver I have been using only this lighter for a very long time and I am very satisfied

 

[Fir]

Love the sound of a zippo. Even though I gave up the cancer sticks eons ago, still play with them when I need to light something.
Also had one of these in nickel!

 

[WelshBloke]

Zippos are fine if you want what you are smoking to taste of lighter fluid.

Answer to op is: butane lighter if you are smoking and long matches for any arsonistic practices.

 

[BurnItDwn]

so i quit smoking cigars since my last reply like 10ish years ago in this necropost.
I use a cigar lighter if i need to make fire, or matches.

Got a Bugatti B-1 Torch in one of the lighter grab bags from cigars international like 6 or 7 years ago, its more or less been perfect for me. can light a fire in a blizzard or a heavy downpour with it if i wanted to.

 

[Captante]

Back when I used to smoke cigs I used whatever was on-hand.

Now when it's only the occasional toke I prefer a butane lighter. Matchs are fine for a quick ignition but if you need flame for a few seconds they really taste bad.

 

[sdifox]

This is for your inner pyro

 

[Captante]

This is for your inner pyro

I'm actually "slumming it" with a plain old $20 propane-torch for dabs but with those you don't inhale or taste the fuel so it matters much less.

Those butane torchs are actually not ideal for anything you'll be breathing in either since unlike a Bic lighter they still produce some nasty fumes.

 

[Muse]

Never use 'em any more, but matches are the best. There's just something special about the 'ceremony' of lighting up the old fashioned way.

Butane only for fine Cigars though. Matches or Zippo are a no-no!

I found what I think may be a butane lighter in the street. It looks expensive. I bought a refiller for it at a local HW store. It's kinda cool. Didn't work for a while until I discovered that it needed cleaning. A few flicks with a toothbrush fixed the problem. It looks like a miniature blow torch when I use it, which is mostly to burn off the dried lint on my washing machine's drain huggy, hung from an unraveled coat hanger, a ritual I enjoy once in a while out on my back porch. Once lit, the wire mesh huggy burns all by itself, ready for further unclogged service.

 

[Pohemi]

Nice necro revive, lol.

I use matches in the bathroom, a bic disposable for toking, and a Lotus butane single-burner for cigs (I live right on Lake Michigan's shoreline and always smoke cigs outdoors...it's windy here).

I'm actually "slumming it" with a plain old $20 propane-torch for dabs but with those you don't inhale or taste the fuel so it matters much less.

Those butane torchs are actually not ideal for anything you'll be breathing in either since unlike a Bic lighter they still produce some nasty fumes.

I looked into that before buying a torch and oilrig, and propane apparently burns cleaner than butane. It also tends to produce a larger flame depending on the torch and be cheaper for refill cylinders.

Edit: I lied. I began a boycott of Bic™ lighters after they started turning all of them into pocket flamethrowers in order to use the fuel faster and sell more lighters, as if they aren't already the most purchased disposable lighters in the US (world?).

I now buy the adjustable Scripto or Cricket lighters in 5 packs for like $3 and they last me months.

 

[Captante]

Nice necro revive, lol.

I use matches in the bathroom, a bic disposable for toking, and a Lotus butane single-burner for cigs (I live right on Lake Michigan's shoreline and always smoke cigs outdoors...it's windy here).


I looked into that before buying a torch and oilrig, and propane apparently burns cleaner than butane. It also tends to produce a larger flame depending on the torch and be cheaper for refill cylinders.

Edit: I lied. I began a boycott of Bic™ lighters after they started turning all of them into pocket flamethrowers in order to use the fuel faster and sell more lighters, as if they aren't already the most purchased disposable lighters in the US (world?).

I now buy the adjustable Scripto or Cricket lighters in 5 packs for like $3 and they last me months.

The other factor for me was price!

The best butane trigger-torch's that are actually designed with dabbing in mind rather than electronics or hobbyist-use cost around $75 and are tough to find in stock anywhere even online plus they have tiny tanks.

Home-depot and Lowes have entire shelves of propane and slightly more expensive MAP torch's in stock. They do require more care than dedicated dab-torch's though ... I have a fire-ext and water within reach at all times when using indoors.



My only concern based on lots of reading and watching otherwise annoying Youtube videos on the topic is the higher temps of propane and even more MAP potentially damaging nails. Ever run into that issue?

 

[Pohemi]

My only concern based on lots of reading and watching otherwise annoying Youtube videos on the topic is the higher temps of propane and even more MAP potentially damaging nails. Ever run into that issue?

Nope, I used a Titanium 'Infinity' domeless nail which was basically half a dozen pieces that could fit together any number of ways so you could make it a male or female, etc. Never warped any of the parts that I knew of, parts all threaded together perfectly after a good cleaning, heh.

 

[MtnMan]

Box of kitchen matches in every bathroom. They are the bomb to cover the aroma of the last bomb that went off in there.

Propane torch for other tasks such as lighting a fire in the woodstove.

 

[sdifox]

I'm actually "slumming it" with a plain old $20 propane-torch for dabs but with those you don't inhale or taste the fuel so it matters much less.

Those butane torchs are actually not ideal for anything you'll be breathing in either since unlike a Bic lighter they still produce some nasty fumes.

The one I have is under ten bux on eBay.

 

[DigDog]

these days i only occasionally smoke my pipe, but have been a smoker for a long time, and it's always been the humble BIC lighter, despite going through Zippos, butane lighters, kitchen matches, because none of those can match the BIC. BICs are lighter (lol), don't leak, are cheap, people are less likely to try to steal them, and the flame is better than any flame short of a Dupont or Dunhill lighter, which can easily cost $500/1k EACH.

Matches are better for the pipe, but terribly awkward to use, and hate the wind.

I do love "strike anywhere" matches; any of you other old gits remember, the classic B&W gumshoe, when they light the match on the sole of their shoe? (or other conveniently suave motion) Well, those are strike-anywhere matches.
Now, back in the days ALL matches were strike-anywhere matches - matches that will ignite due to friction alone, and do not require to be struck on the tab on this side of the packet.
The reason for the strip is, allegedly, that women were using the matchheads to commit suicide, due to it being poisonous. Go figure. Women, and their silly penchant for suicide.
Anyway, matches companies figure out a way to split the compound between match head and strip, which is why modern matches do not ignite when you strike them on just-any surface (although some surfaces may still ignite the head).

oh, and strike-anywhere matches are waaaaay more flammable than safety matches. Like, super flammable. As in, dangerous-to-ship flammable. See, the trouble is that when considering what classifies as a valid "strike-anywhere" surface .. other matches qualify. WHOOSH. Was that a cargo ship full of matches you had? Brilliant idea, let's cram it full of dried wood and explosive phosphorous.