HomerJS
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Execution as a means of justice is not OK. However, what I think you were trying to indicate is that the cops should have shot to kill with any fashion of resisting peaceable arrest. That of course can be quite subtle, but there is a huge difference between someone who is actively wielding a high powered firearm known to have killed people in the vicinity already and the counter-examples provided.
herm0016
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also, I don't get the rage every time someone is not shot by police, this guy is obviously a minority, even by a quick glance. being totally blind to race is just as dumb as being a racists. Is this not how we want police to act now? and it does appear they did shoot the guy, maybe they just need more range time? maybe the guy was out of ammo and they could see that, and decided to shoot for the leg and allow the victims their day in court? we don't know. and i agree with @interchange comments.
maybe it's changing for the better, too slow, but still changing, is all i'm getting at.
claims:
its over masks
its some trump lover
its race based ( could still be true i guess)
seems like some of these were edited already. ohwell.
anyhow, speculate away.
maybe it's changing for the better, too slow, but still changing, is all i'm getting at.
claims:
its over masks
its some trump lover
its race based ( could still be true i guess)
seems like some of these were edited already. ohwell.
anyhow, speculate away.
1prophet
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Good thing he wasn't white shooting up massage parlors, many prominent left leaning democrat types would automatically assume it was some sort of Trump loving Asian hating white supremacist.
Atlanta Shootings Live Updates: Suspect Had Visited Targeted Spas Before, Police Say (Published 2021)
The police said the suspect had previously been a customer of at least two of the businesses where eight people were killed. Also, the House held its first hearing on anti-Asian discrimination in three decades.
But most likely both shooters had highly volatile mental issues, unfortunately that doesn't fit today's easily exploited political narratives to be used against the other side.
Good thing he wasn't white shooting up massage parlors, many prominent left leaning democrat types would automatically assume it was some sort of Trump loving Asian hating white supremacist.
Atlanta Shootings Live Updates: Suspect Had Visited Targeted Spas Before, Police Say (Published 2021)
The police said the suspect had previously been a customer of at least two of the businesses where eight people were killed. Also, the House held its first hearing on anti-Asian discrimination in three decades.www.nytimes.com
But most likely both shooters had highly volatile mental issues, unfortunately that doesn't fit today's easily exploited political narratives to be used against the other side.
You have to admit it would at least make more sense that it was a Trump loving white supremacist as they comprise the largest percentage of terrorist attacks in the US. Agree?
Vic
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Yeah, it's totally not racist to reflexively assume that all black people are responsible for every crime committed by a black person. And it's totally not bigoted to assume that an entire religion with billions of followers is responsible for every crime committed by a single follower.
But hey, God forbid anyone ever assume that with a white Christian "lone wolf," amirite?
But seriously, if you're concerned about your own rights and freedoms, you should stop letting your prejudices and fears encourage you into taking away the rights and freedoms of others.
Vic
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The "conservative brain defect," as another poster here calls it, is the belief that everything is zero sum. That if another person acquires wealth, then that's less wealth potentially available to them. And likewise, that it's an infringement on their rights and freedoms if other people are allowed to enjoy rights and freedoms that they don't agree with (because they're somehow "forced to accept" that other people have rights and freedoms too). And naturally, with this mentality, they're constantly terrified of being done unto as they would do unto.
Only if Republicans put the same energy they put into making it harder for people to vote into gun control.
It's okay to shoot them to death as long as they are white.
Anyone else, it's entirely unacceptable and inhumane.
HomerJS
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Did you see my list? I do have rage for black people dying at the hands of police for shit like that while others committing henious acts are captured alive. There was a white guy killing state troopers and they took him in unharmed. Meanwhile Republicans are admitting out loud, crime is only crime if blacks are the perps.
Vic
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Please feel free to provide an example of someone here saying it's ok to shoot a suspect because they're white.
I know I can find plenty of examples of posters saying it's ok to shoot suspects just because they're black, "comply or die" and all that. But that's somehow different, right?
Vic
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In batshit world, saying that you don't want the police to kneel on black suspects' necks for 8-and-a-half minutes is exactly the same as saying "kill all whiteys," don't ya know?
jman19
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Muse
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I love this guy. He's got attitude, won't let the cops intimidate him. Cops harrassed him again and again. So many of those cops are complete assholes, authoritarians, have no concept of human rights, just dicks.
Jim Morrison had it right: "Once you make your peace with authority you become an authority."
That report says he was born in Syria but has lived in the US since the age of 3. It does say he's occasionally 'posted about Islam'.
If he's been in the country since he was 3, he sounds like a product of US culture and conditions, to me. But every country can have its lethally-crazy people. Main point is it was US society that allowed him to have a gun, whatever his 'issues'.
Even I would concede there was a reasonable argument for shooting someone to death _if they were at that moment in the process of shooting other people to death_.
In general, I'm not keen on cheering on the cops and the so-called 'justice system' - in its treatment of poor or mentally-ill people of any race. An 'active shooter', however, is certainly an exception.
zzyzxroad
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I wonder how long this behavior had been going on. If a friend or family member exabits this type of behavior do we have a mechanism in place to report and get them real help? I fear the answer to that is no and I think it is time we address that. People who are mentally ill need to be helped and as a society we need to address that fact.
"The suspect’s family told investigators they believed Alissa was suffering some type of mental illness, including delusions. Relatives described times when Alissa told them people were following or chasing him, which they said may have contributed to the violence, the official told AP."
apnews.com
"The suspect’s family told investigators they believed Alissa was suffering some type of mental illness, including delusions. Relatives described times when Alissa told them people were following or chasing him, which they said may have contributed to the violence, the official told AP."
Colorado suspect got assault weapon 6 days before shooting
BOULDER, Colo. (AP) — The suspect accused of opening fire inside a crowded Colorado supermarket was a 21-year-old man who purchased an assault weapon less than a week earlier, authorities said Tuesday, a day after the attack that killed 10 people, including a police officer.
apnews.com
herm0016
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I wonder how long this behavior had been going on. If a friend or family member exabits this type of behavior do we have a mechanism in place to report and get them real help? I fear the answer to that is no and I think it is time we address that. People who are mentally ill need to be helped and as a society we need to address that fact.
"The suspect’s family told investigators they believed Alissa was suffering some type of mental illness, including delusions. Relatives described times when Alissa told them people were following or chasing him, which they said may have contributed to the violence, the official told AP."
Colorado suspect got assault weapon 6 days before shooting
BOULDER, Colo. (AP) — The suspect accused of opening fire inside a crowded Colorado supermarket was a 21-year-old man who purchased an assault weapon less than a week earlier, authorities said Tuesday, a day after the attack that killed 10 people, including a police officer.
Colorado has a red flag law where he could have been put on a no buy list by either a professional or by a judge after a short hearing. people can be refered to this process by anyone, i believe.
HomerJS
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but this...
Several Colorado sheriffs say they won't enforce red flag gun law
Several sheriffs in the state of Colorado are digging in their heels against a gun law that will go into effect January 1, allowing for the temporary confiscation of firearms if a gun owner shows dangerous or threatening behavior. 60 Minutes reports on red flag laws being adopted across the...
www.cbsnews.com
MrSquished
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zzyzxroad
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But does it work? What is the process and who responds? If yes and this behavior was going on few more than a few days his family should be ashamed of themselves.
When I have time I will look it up. That time of law doesn't sounds like it provides help for the mentally ill person.
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Yeah I mean - it's not at all possible (or something of a similar vein less than a week ago) to occur where how you are raised and brought up - say - by your parents that raise you or the church that teaches you your beliefs can have detrimental effects.
No.... No not at all! It's the American way of life that taught him to go in and go pew pew pew on random people
MrSquished
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No.... No not at all! It's the American way of life that taught him to go in and go pew pew pew on random people
News Flash - in developed countries, mass shootings of random people are an American thing. This is why we can never fix these problems, because people are utterly clueless.
You just keep proving over and over and over and over again that you clearly haven't traveled for shit. You haven't been anywhere outside of your bubble.
Cherry on top - you're living proof that our education system has failed.
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