Masks? We don't need no stinking masks!!!

[Fanatical Meat]

He does look rather stupid with everyone else in the room wearing a mask.

I agree. While I totally understand why a Politician wouldn’t have a picture taken with a mask. In Pence's example it would have been so easy just to say no cameras while I visit and wear the fucking mask, then have a maskless presser after the tour.

 

[pcgeek11]

I agree. While I totally understand why a Politician wouldn’t have a picture taken with a mask. In Pence's example it would have been so easy just to say no cameras while I visit and wear the fucking mask, then have a maskless presser after the tour.

I think it would be a smart move to have pictures taken with a mask.

"Look I'm just like everybody else and must protect myself and other people too"

 

[brycejones]

I think it would be a smart move to have pictures taken with a mask.

"Look I'm just like everybody else and must protect myself and other people too"

That's what a leader concerned about their people would do.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I think it would be a smart move to have pictures taken with a mask.

"Look I'm just like everybody else and must protect myself and other people too"

In this scenario I agree, I do understand this fear they have

 

[pcgeek11]

In this scenario I agree, I do understand this fear they have

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Well, Dufuckus was a special case.......

LOL

 

[sportage]

Seems the of wearing masks issue is heating up as more and more places open. What I can't believe is that a president, ANY PRESIDENT, could create even more division over something as simple as wearing or not wearing a mask. HOW DOES HE DO IT? How does Donald Trump pit people against people over nonsense? Since when has a mask caused so much hatred? And violence? You'd think every mask was a loaded AR-15. If Donald Trump can divide America even further using a simple face mask, just wait until 2021 after Donald Trump is reelected. At some point it will come down to concentration camps. After Trump wins reelection he will need somewhere to stick the resistance, just before gassing them. Trump could eliminate hundreds of thousands then blame it on the virus.

 

[Stokely]

So while this country goes to war over masks, Japan's death numbers continue to mount...

Keep in mind Japan has the highest average age population on earth. 126 million people live there.

880 people have died. 8 hundred and fucking 80. Their curve is basically approaching where things started (ie, done with wave #1). They got CV at least as early as the US did.

Wonder why that is? They are still riding the subway. They don't have "draconian" lockdowns. Their climate is northern similar to NYC (to address the heat/sunlight/vitamin D aspects).

Perhaps, maybe, because they wear masks in public?

(Also I'm sure because they tend to be much healthier and not obese.)

Gee, if only America had an example to look to during these troubled times. I reckon we will hit 200,000 before they hit 1200.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

So while this country goes to war over masks, Japan's death numbers continue to mount...

Keep in mind Japan has the highest average age population on earth. 126 million people live there.

880 people have died. 8 hundred and fucking 80. Their curve is basically approaching where things started (ie, done with wave #1). They got CV at least as early as the US did.

Wonder why that is? They are still riding the subway. They don't have "draconian" lockdowns. Their climate is northern similar to NYC (to address the heat/sunlight/vitamin D aspects).

Perhaps, maybe, because they wear masks in public?

(Also I'm sure because they tend to be much healthier and not obese.)

Gee, if only America had an example to look to during these troubled times. I reckon we will hit 200,000 before they hit 1200.

Oh -- we have plenty of examples.

But we can't follow any examples, because America is "exceptional". We always thump (rhymes with . . ) our chests about our exceptionalism. We're the greatest. So how would it look, to follow another nation's example?

 

[K1052]

So while this country goes to war over masks, Japan's death numbers continue to mount...

Keep in mind Japan has the highest average age population on earth. 126 million people live there.

880 people have died. 8 hundred and fucking 80. Their curve is basically approaching where things started (ie, done with wave #1). They got CV at least as early as the US did.

Wonder why that is? They are still riding the subway. They don't have "draconian" lockdowns. Their climate is northern similar to NYC (to address the heat/sunlight/vitamin D aspects).

Perhaps, maybe, because they wear masks in public?

(Also I'm sure because they tend to be much healthier and not obese.)

Gee, if only America had an example to look to during these troubled times. I reckon we will hit 200,000 before they hit 1200.

Mask wearing and the 3 C's

Experts are also credited with creating an easy-to-understand message of avoiding what are called the “Three Cs” — closed spaces, crowded spaces and close-contact settings — rather than keeping away from others entirely.

“Social distancing may work, but it doesn’t really help to continue normal social life,” said Hokkaido University’s Suzuki. “The ‘Three Cs’ are a much more pragmatic approach and very effective, while having a similar effect.”

https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...t-the-virus-without-lockdowns-or-mass-testing

Also people looking at Japan have noticed something about their transit, especially in Tokyo: nobody talks. I've been on the subway there and they are right. It's dead silent except for the sounds the train itself makes. Talking produces a lot of droplets so people keeping their mouths shut is naturally going to be pretty helpful and certainly great if everybody is masked.

 

[K1052]

Oh -- we have plenty of examples.

But we can't follow any examples, because America is "exceptional". We always thump (rhymes with . . ) our chests about our exceptionalism. We're the greatest. So how would it look, to follow another nation's example?

The oft repeated "America isn't like other places" to justify a huge range of failure is just an excuse because we're pretty dumb and lazy when it comes to the nuts and bolts of governance, infrastructure, public health, etc. Yea for high technology is hard to beat us but that's small comfort considering the enormous failures that we've just lived to accept as part of the country.

 

[Bitek]

To throw another bomb in the fire, WHO released some new recommendations, including NOT wearing masks unless treating a known covid patient. Oh boy...
Only 1m (3ft) for social distancing too.
Not sure what they are really recommending other than washing hands...

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice for public

• If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
• Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
• Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
• If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.

 

[UNCjigga]

Somebody should write a book about this phenomenon.

 

[local]

To throw another bomb in the fire, WHO released some new recommendations, including NOT wearing masks unless treating a known covid patient. Oh boy...
Only 1m (3ft) for social distancing too.
Not sure what they are really recommending other than washing hands...

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice for public

• If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
• Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
• Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
• If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.

Yeah at this point it seems the WHO is getting its recommendations from TX. Maybe we were right to defund them.

 

[Bitek]

Yeah at this point it seems the WHO is getting its recommendations from TX. Maybe we were right to defund them.

Clearly Brazil's problem is not enough soap....

I'm sure Trumpers will be loving the WHO again. Just wait for it.

 

[local]

Clearly Brazil's problem is not enough soap....

I'm sure Trumpers will be loving the WHO again. Just wait for it.

I was actually expecting the next story on Fox News to be exactly that, using the WHO guidelines against people.

 

[Stopsignhank]

I was in Home Depot on Saturday. The guy in line 2 in front of me did not have a mask. He turned around and started talking the the guy behind him, the guy in front of me. He said how did he feel that the government was taking away our liberties. They started talking. I guess he did not hear me shout through my mask that he was a “fucking idiot”. When they were done he said “my name is Robert by the way and I will shake your hand” and they shook hands.
What an asshole.

 

[pmv]

I thought the fundamental point of wearing masks was to show some consideration for others? Has that in itself somehow come to be seen as an 'unmanly' trait? That's depressing if so.

Or is it that there's still a belief out there that masks are to protect the wearer, ergo wearing one suggests you're scared? That's a slightly-less depressing explanation for mask-reluctance.

I don't entirely get what the reason is for _not_ wearing one, if you are going to be in close proximity with other people. I wouldn't wear one all the time, because most of the time I know I'm not going to be near other people anyway.

Though it would be a lot easier if the state were to provide everyone with a supply of basic, simple masks. I tried wrapping a scarf round my face at one point (when I had to go to hospital), but almost immediately lost all confidence in the idea. I don't have much faith in any sort of home-made mask.

 

[Aikouka]

Went grocery shopping yesterday (MA) and there wasn't a single person without a mask. That was nice to see.

Mask use has been rather hit or miss around here (AL). For example, in Kroger, I see very little mask usage outside of the employees, and there's also not that great of an adherence to trying to keep your distance from others. On the flip side, I've been told that it's significantly better in Publix (a more expensive grocery store).

I thought the fundamental point of wearing masks was to show some consideration for others? Has that in itself somehow come to be seen as an 'unmanly' trait? That's depressing if so.

I think some people just get up in arms by people trying to tell them what they can and cannot do. Even though something like being forced to wear a mask is pretty harmless and is meant to help the greater good (i.e. the rest of society), it becomes an awkward question of personal liberties.

 

[hal2kilo]

I think some people just get up in arms by people trying to tell them what they can and cannot do. Even though something like being forced to wear a mask is pretty harmless and is meant to help the greater good (i.e. the rest of society), it becomes an awkward question of personal liberties.

Some kids never grow up.

 

[sportage]

I was OUT AND ABOUT today and I really felt bad for these workers TRYING SO HARD to keep themselves safe and to do the right thing. After all.... "THEY" have A LOT of contact with the public and the risk for them and for their family is MUCH MUCH higher than for the average Joe.

They wear masks, they wear gloves, and through it all they still provide friendly courteous service. GOD LOVE EM....!!!
AND.... I realized how important AND NECESSARY it is to return the same courtesy by WEARING YOUR MASK too.
Don't insult these people who are simply trying to make a living in this upside-down land of Donald Trump. SHOW RESPECT... WEAR THE DAMN MASK.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Especially if you're out and about in your city burning businesses and looting liquor stores! Please wear your masks to protect yourself and others. Be a socially aware and concerned citizen.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Mask wearing and the 3 C's



https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...t-the-virus-without-lockdowns-or-mass-testing

Also people looking at Japan have noticed something about their transit, especially in Tokyo: nobody talks. I've been on the subway there and they are right. It's dead silent except for the sounds the train itself makes. Talking produces a lot of droplets so people keeping their mouths shut is naturally going to be pretty helpful and certainly great if everybody is masked.

Imagine 'Murica not speaking. Loud mouthed ignorance is what we're known for, lol.

 

[darkswordsman17]

To throw another bomb in the fire, WHO released some new recommendations, including NOT wearing masks unless treating a known covid patient. Oh boy...
Only 1m (3ft) for social distancing too.
Not sure what they are really recommending other than washing hands...

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice for public

• If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
• Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
• Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
• If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.

I'm not surprised. They were wishy-washy about masks to begin with.

And the thing is, its not like masks don't have other issues. You're breathing is more limited (shouldn't be too harmful for most), and if you don't wash or dispose of masks properly it provides a good source for spreading/contamination. And putting on and taking off a mask I think could make it more likely to touch your face, especially around your eyes.

But wearing one when you're around a lot of other people I think is sensible and would be effective. It also has some other potential benefits. Like down here, it helps when the dust gets to blowing, and it should help some with allergens. For those two reasons, I feel like I probably should have been wearing one on occasion already.

The thing I've started to realize though is, why the fuck weren't people preparing food wearing masks already to begin with? I didn't notice how rare that was until recently.

I think a lot of this also is stuff that we should've been habitually talking about every year with flu season, so it should've not been such a big deal.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I was in Home Depot on Saturday. The guy in line 2 in front of me did not have a mask. He turned around and started talking the the guy behind him, the guy in front of me. He said how did he feel that the government was taking away our liberties. They started talking. I guess he did not hear me shout through my mask that he was a “fucking idiot”. When they were done he said “my name is Robert by the way and I will shake your hand” and they shook hands.
What an asshole.

Not sure if ironic intentionally or accidentally...

 

[darkswordsman17]

Mask use has been rather hit or miss around here (AL). For example, in Kroger, I see very little mask usage outside of the employees, and there's also not that great of an adherence to trying to keep your distance from others. On the flip side, I've been told that it's significantly better in Publix (a more expensive grocery store).



I think some people just get up in arms by people trying to tell them what they can and cannot do. Even though something like being forced to wear a mask is pretty harmless and is meant to help the greater good (i.e. the rest of society), it becomes an awkward question of personal liberties.

Its been all over the place here. Some places the employees aren't wearing them even. I thankfully haven't seen any of the confrontational (or even passive aggressive) people bitching about masks.

I think there's some truth to that. And there's a strong "fuck the government" lean in America to begin with. And ignorance, and just, 'merica!

Even through the stupidity, I do think this highlights a failing. We should have every year been putting out information about washing your hands, wearing a mask if you're showing symptoms (especially respiratory ones like cough/sneeze), so that it wasn't like all of a sudden the government was "wear a mask or else" as that does spook people and makes it easy for their ignorance to take over.

Its really hard for people to understand the ramifications for their actions, let alone when its something that's nigh invisible to them. I feel like this is something that technology will help with. Imagine AR visors that can show how cough/sneeze sprays germs. And while it could be simulated some, we have sensors that could actually show exactly what it would be like (where it could mix lidar, thermal, and some others to highlight it).