Marvel Heroes, F2P "Diablo-like" game... **Official Thread**

[lupi]

That I can't say, so used to playing with TV on I have game volume down.

 

[AMDZen]

So I bought this game, or rather played this game a year and a half or more ago and spent a little bit too, probably close to $50 on some characters. I decided to install it again and all my characters are there but honestly I have no idea what is really going on or what I was doing with my end game character any way.

I just want to "reset" I guess is the word and kind of just start over, if possible. Even if that means just ditching everything if that is the only option. Is there any way to do this? I have been unable to find a way and the google is very sketchy on finding an answer.

 

[lupi]

Assuming your chars didn't hit max level yet, you can reset everything but their level/quest progress in game for free now.

At max level you can go through the prestige system to start at level 1 again but you should read up on doing that before starting.

 

[zinfamous]

So I bought this game, or rather played this game a year and a half or more ago and spent a little bit too, probably close to $50 on some characters. I decided to install it again and all my characters are there but honestly I have no idea what is really going on or what I was doing with my end game character any way.

I just want to "reset" I guess is the word and kind of just start over, if possible. Even if that means just ditching everything if that is the only option. Is there any way to do this? I have been unable to find a way and the google is very sketchy on finding an answer.

I would just relearn one of your max toons while you get back into it and stash splinters until you can purchase a new one that you want--or just buy for ~$5

The game is so different from what it was a year+ ago. Would suck to lose whatever progress you have on that account.

...you can always make a new account, btw.

 

[DaveSimmons]

So I bought this game, or rather played this game a year and a half or more ago and spent a little bit too, probably close to $50 on some characters. I decided to install it again and all my characters are there but honestly I have no idea what is really going on or what I was doing with my end game character any way.

I just want to "reset" I guess is the word and kind of just start over, if possible. Even if that means just ditching everything if that is the only option. Is there any way to do this? I have been unable to find a way and the google is very sketchy on finding an answer.

You can try one of the other ~50 heroes that you haven't started with yet, they are free to play up to level 10.

Skill point respecs are always free now, so you can try one set of powers, decide you don't like it, then try another. As often as you want, since it's free.

Google "marvel heroes (( HERO NAME )) leveling build" for suggestions on which powers to use over others, You often only need to use 3-4 powers leveling up (2 x mouse 2 x keyboard) and maybe 6-7 at endgame. "lazy build" instead of leveling build will also often work.

Besides active powers, many heroes also have 2-3 passive skills that help with defense and power regeneration, put points in those along with your small set of attack powers. Don't think you need to use all of the powers you have access to!

For your partially-leveled heroes, one thing that might trip you up is that each of the story chapters now has a lot more missions in it and the character level range has gone up for the later chapters.

I came back to the game with a level 19 Iron Man, and the next story episode for the highest chapter I'd reached (mutant area) had jumped from 15-19 up to level 28-33. I was dying a lot until I looked at the level range -- 19 in a 28 zone is going to struggle! So I jumped back to an earlier chapter and wandered around a bit doing the area missions.

 

[lupi]

Ultron will be the next hero added.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Game had potential, but it seems like the most shallow game I have ever played... Like, nothing matters type game. I load it up, pew pew. This is unlike Diablo 3 or Path of Exile...

Too bad too, because I'd love for them to improve this game itself. Inventory management is a real pain, as well. I mean super heroes is kind of dumb to begin with, but then you add pieces of cake dropping? Again, I am all for fantasy, but IMO, this is dumb.

 

[zinfamous]

Game had potential, but it seems like the most shallow game I have ever played... Like, nothing matters type game. I load it up, pew pew. This is unlike Diablo 3 or Path of Exile...

Too bad too, because I'd love for them to improve this game itself. Inventory management is a real pain, as well. I mean super heroes is kind of dumb to begin with, but then you add pieces of cake dropping? Again, I am all for fantasy, but IMO, this is dumb.

eh, special event loot, just a time-stamped currency that appears annually. No different from any other free online ARPG that cycles game-related, non-loreish events.

It does get very samey after a while once you've tried a dozen or so heroes and you realize that the majority of abilities are recycled from hero to hero, in design and functionality. ...but there is something like 58 or so heroes to choose from now, so that's to be expected.

They have actually released tons of new content over the last year alone (meaning story, endgame, explorable maps and such)...but it's still relatively the same mechanic wherever you go. But that is also the same in any comparable game.

The skill and leveling system really isn't going to be as deep in a game like POE that has something like 5 classes? and is built for more intense grinding for levels and loot.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Game had potential, but it seems like the most shallow game I have ever played... Like, nothing matters type game. I load it up, pew pew. This is unlike Diablo 3 or Path of Exile...

Too bad too, because I'd love for them to improve this game itself. Inventory management is a real pain, as well. I mean super heroes is kind of dumb to begin with, but then you add pieces of cake dropping? Again, I am all for fantasy, but IMO, this is dumb.

Leveling up is training wheels in many MMOs, and right now it's the anniversary event where high-end gear drops quite often. Try going into a Danger Room or Red Terminal for more of a challenge.

But if you think "super heroes is kind of dumb to begin with" it's probably not the game for you. The target audience is people who liked the comics as a kid and/or the MU movies now.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Leveling up is training wheels in many MMOs, and right now it's the anniversary event where high-end gear drops quite often. Try going into a Danger Room or Red Terminal for more of a challenge.

But if you think "super heroes is kind of dumb to begin with" it's probably not the game for you. The target audience is people who liked the comics as a kid and/or the MU movies now.

I am ok with super heroes. Hard to put my finger on it, but like for example, the new spiderman was super cheesy with some sort of physcho electric man filling in the obnoxious evil laughing man. Words can describe how idiotic it was. But, take for example Batman... That is pretty cool. Ironman 1 and 2 were great. Cake slices dropping in the ground is dumb.

I think with so much super heroes stuff (comics, movies, games) and so many Marvel Universes now, it has become just one huge chaotic mess. Marvel supports the multiverse approach and so it lacks continuity. I guess it has become a huge money maker with stories all over the place.

That said, again, I don't mind the genre perse, but Marvel really overdid it. I was your average kid 20-30 years ago, I had comics, etc... Just not happy with all these super heroes movies, some of them have no real story whatsoever... As to get back to the topic at hand - The game just doesn't seem complex enough to enjoy. I am sure there are theory crafters and the like, but it seems ultra casual. That makes money, I get it... But doesn't make for a super strong community of like minded people.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Steam has a Civil War Starter Pack for 90% off = $2.49, listed under DLC, through July 4

This includes hero unlocks for Iron Man and Captain America (if one or both are already unlocked, you get tokens to level up their Ultimate attack), plus the Civil War costumes for both of them, plus a hero-specific bank tab for each of them (these can store their gear plus a limited range of any-hero gear).

Any one of those items typically sells for $5-10 so it's a nice starter pack if you think you might want to play as either hero.

 

[Craig234]

Anything I should buy as a casual new player? I know 'stash' is on sale a little longer and other things and a 15% bonus to game credits.

So, I could drop $20 on game credits? Good idea? What to buy with them?

There's a lot for sale. I lean against spending on 'boosts' in it.

Also, these chest I get playing up to level 10 so far, not sure whether to open some or save them. For example, the 'day 3 epic gear for your character' chest.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Don't buy boosts, they're more for whales and endgame raiders.

Stash space, hero unlocks, special costumes for your favorite hero, team-ups are the best choices, but you can get hero unlocks and a couple of team-ups (cap, iron man) during events. You will get a Shield agent team-up free as you play through the story.

Probably stash space is the most important since it's hardest to earn by playing the game. You can get a random hero unlock for 175 "eternity splinters" (over and over) but you can only get 1 single stash tab that way for 600(!) splinters. (So you give up 3 heroes to get it)

The $20 for 2495 G's is a good deal if you've decided to keep playing.

Get that, then buy (say) 3 stash tabs on sale for 350 Gs each = 1050 Gs. You might think that's a lot, but you'll want to save: "unique" rarity gear, artifacts, crafting mats, boosts you get as loot drops and login rewards (to use at endgame), costume cores with very good attributes (invuln or heal on medkit use + 2-3 other good specs).

> Also, these chest I get playing up to level 10 so far, not sure whether to open some or save them. For example, the 'day 3 epic gear for your character' chest.

Save the "coffers of achievement" and "mayhem" chests that stack and do not have a level. Open them at level 60. Also save the boxes that say they contain a "guaranteed unique" for 60.

Epic gear is very easy to get, it's the purple rarity. You can open them whenever though level 10 is a little low to bother, maybe wait for around 15.

The chests you get for story missions usually have a level when you mouse over them, so the gear inside is set to that level. So no point in saving them for later.

 

[Craig234]

Thanks. Lot of heroes, probably picking black widow to unlock.

 

[Craig234]

Trying to decide what to buy with 458 cake slices. I can get a fifth hero, or a 'teamup', or a fifth stash I guess.

Still picking which hero to play more also. I like black widow and invisible woman, but I unlocked deadpool as he seems to do better than the ones I tried and is fine.

 

[zinfamous]

I found Invisible Woman to be terrible--pretty much all of the FF are awful, and only Thing is competitive with other similar toons, and actually somewhat fun.

Black Widow is fun for me, but not all that strong unfortunately. Scarlet Witch is a huge value character because she's cheap and one of the most powerful in the game.

If the cake slices offer you any toon, maybe someone like Doom because he has some rather versatile and interesting builds and tends to remain at the top of the charts in terms of power. Far too many play his summoner build which, while strong, is extremely annoying for other players when those Doom mobs gather together and jack up your view of everything.

I haven't yet played the new reviewed Deadpool. Definitely go for hero over teamup, though. The teamups don't offer nearly the same value/cost as heroes do.

Vision is also somewhat diverse as he offers good range or mele, or a decent combo build. If you like big explosions and OP mechanics, then go with Jean Grey (likewise Scarlet Witch)

 

[Craig234]

I just couldn't stand the character doom in the game however good it is.

Interesting tips. I'll get another hero then (not the fifth stash?)

I was also trying to use the free heroes on the more expensive ones - I made a mistake not realizing the sale was ending to buy some cheap - but am quickly running out of the top ones I want after one (deadpool). It's hard to buy a less expensive hero for free knowing you could have got on that costs more - or buying it off sale now.

I was using how well they did in the level 1-3 prologue to compare, and some were bad, some fine, and deadpool the best. I still like inivisible woman up to 10.

Maybe she isn't strong at higher level. But there's fun.

 

[zinfamous]

Stash and heroes are the most valuable things, especially if you have a freebie. levels 1-3 aren't a good way to judge hero effectiveness as sometimes they just fall off in the later levels, but most need to unlock their sig (level 30) to really see what they can do.

One I forgot to mention is Kitty Pride. She is a monster if you like mele/physical type damage and is no slouch when it comes to damage avoidance. I haven't played in a while, so I'll go with the assumption that her lockheed build is still terrible (but it could be fun if you enjoy that type of mechanic).

She also has the benefit of being one of the few unique play type of characters with her phasing and speed. She's one of the fastest--probably the fastest--to get from point to point on any map, and hits like a freaking truck when you gear her properly. Nightcrawler was my undisputed favorite until she came along. Problem with NC is that he hits like a wet noodle, dies way too easily for his weak DPS, and seems to be constantly ignored with all the rounds of tweaking. Still, no one else plays like him and he has the best TP/travel in the game. Kitty came along and brought some of that NC type of play but also is great end game.

Surfer is also great in the DPS game, but his better builds now are kinda strange and to me are somewhat un-surfer like. ...assuming his EMF is still losing again to the weird movement builds, but maybe that has changed yet again. I always like to play an EMF+movement type of build with him which wasn't his best DPS, was far more fun than the standard and still performed well.

If you stick around long enough and have the chance to try out most of the toons, you'll realize that several are cookie-cutter versions of many of the other toons. That, and a lot of skills are so heavily recycled with animations and mechanics that in some cases you are really just trading skins when comparing some heroes to others. Few of them have very unique mechanics--like Doom or NC, KP, Juggernaut (run in circles then elbow drop everything...sounds lame but it's actually rather satisfying, lol). While JG is strong, her play is just run around and spam massive damaging explosion stuff everywhere.

 

[DaveSimmons]

I like Doom's lines, they're cheesy fun

> It's hard to buy a less expensive hero for free knowing you could have got on that costs more

Also, it's easier to save up 200-400 splinters for a "cheap" hero instead of 600 for the most expensive.

Have you tried Ghost Rider? He's an expensive one that's considered good at level 60.

FYI, you need to use your cake by next Wednesday night, after that the terminal and vendor will probably go away.

After the big purchase, you might get 2 of the costume core boxes with the leftover cake and stick them in your stash for now. Once you have decided on your main hero to keep playing at level 60, have that hero (not another hero) open a box for a special "costume core" that you have the crafter attach to your costume. These versions of the costume core add +1,000 defense plus some other random stats.

 

[zinfamous]

yeah Doom is worth it just for the dialogue, but he's also versatile and powerful on all his builds which makes him one of the better overall characters--I'd imagine he is still considered top by most people?

If you only have a few toons, the 175 splinter random box is a great buy. It's a very quick and cheap way to add to your roster. Most heroes are pretty good and fun enough to level up anyway, so it's hard to lose on that (unless like me and you get something like 4 straight Hawkeye turd tokens ).

I can only think of a few that were truly painful to level to 60:
Reed Richards
Hawkeye
Human Torch
White Queen (pre-review--but still haven't finished her)

Also bear in mind that the more characters you have at level 60 (even 50 is a good bonus), the faster your account-wide leveling. Once you max out those bonuses and with free in-story xp pots, it's pretty easy to get from 1 to 60 in an afternoon.

 

[Craig234]

Thanks for the posts. I got a fifth stash for the cake and will try to find the costumes (I have 93 left).

I'll take a look at some of those heroes.

Interesting skills sound good.

I noticed the first day that they're basically copies mostly. But they do play a bit differently.

Latest level 10: The Thing

 

[DaveSimmons]

They do get more distinct as they get to high levels like 40+ since at up to 10 you only have 3-5 skills of your 15+.

You could probably collapse the 50 different heroes into maybe 10 or so and 5 variants of each, but if you like one hero more than another because of what you've read in the comics or watched in movies, that makes them different for you.

The different animations can be fun too. Psylocke and Thor are both melee + area heroes but one slices with a sword and throws psi-bolts while the other bashes with a hammer and has lightning attacks.

 

[lupi]

I like Doom's lines, they're cheesy fun

> It's hard to buy a less expensive hero for free knowing you could have got on that costs more

Also, it's easier to save up 200-400 splinters for a "cheap" hero instead of 600 for the most expensive.

Have you tried Ghost Rider? He's an expensive one that's considered good at level 60.

FYI, you need to use your cake by next Wednesday night, after that the terminal and vendor will probably go away.

After the big purchase, you might get 2 of the costume core boxes with the leftover cake and stick them in your stash for now. Once you have decided on your main hero to keep playing at level 60, have that hero (not another hero) open a box for a special "costume core" that you have the crafter attach to your costume. These versions of the costume core add +1,000 defense plus some other random stats.

you sure about that, I thought the vendor stayed now?

 

[Craig234]

Kitty gets killed easily, but is fun to play with the purple dragon and phasing.

 

[zinfamous]

Kitty gets killed easily, but is fun to play with the purple dragon and phasing.

ah I see you picked her. She can be really "tanky" at level 60 with proper gear, it just involves proper weaving of her damage mitigation stuff. She doesn't soak up damage like Colossus or Thing, but can take a couple of hits and kill most things fast enough where it doesn't matter.

Could also be the dragon stuff--I recall those animations pinning her while also dealing out minimal damage. I played with it a bit while leveling her, but only use her as pure mele. That phasing samurai skill hits hard. I think I brutal ~4billion with the build I use on her, which isn't optimal.