Market up on strong jobs data.

[SlowSpyder]

Yeah, wow. That's some cult-level derangement justification! "obama inherited the worst crisis since the 20s, but eh.. the Fed rate was low when Trump's term started too!". Everyone knows Trump-cultists are idiots, but still surprised how bad it is.

Also, short of giving tax breaks to the wealthy and business (on top of hiostoric high profit margins) I don't know what else he's done exactly. Very little "deregulation" has actually happened; net neutrality had no impact on business, even verizon said so. Clean power plan was never implemented anyway. Tweaking dodd-frank I guess?

https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

Yea, that $1.4billion in deficit in 2010 (Obama's second year) in part due to the ACA was really recovery spending. The numbers speak for themselves. Looks like at this rate Trump may add as much to the debt in four years as Obama added in the first two of his first term.

 

[SlowSpyder]

You guys are taking the diversion bait.

No wonder Slow wants to change the subject away from the volatile market that Trump is creating, although why he would choose to change the subject to the exploding deficit under Trump, I have no idea.

perhaps he's decided he's tired of being punched in the face, and would rather be punched in the nuts instead.

It wasn't me that brought up the deficits, it was another poster, a post that you gave a like to in fact. If you feel this has been derailed, talk to that poster.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

Yea, that $1.4billion in deficit in 2010 (Obama's second year) in part due to the ACA was really recovery spending. The numbers speak for themselves. Looks like at this rate Trump may add as much to the debt in four years as Obama added in the first two of his first term.

I know you're too dense to listen, but still.. What part of WORST ECONOMIC CRISIS IN 80 YEARS don't you understand?
also; ACA became law in march 2010, none of the provisions would have effected 2010 numbers

 

[fskimospy]

It wasn't me that brought up the deficits, it was another poster, a post that you gave a like to in fact. If you feel this has been derailed, talk to that poster.

How do you feel about all the gains you bragged about being wiped out? Since you credited Trump for the gains before do you fault him for the declines?

 

[SlowSpyder]

How do you feel about all the gains you bragged about being wiped out? Since you credited Trump for the gains before do you fault him for the declines?

I think the POTUS only has so much influence on the markets. I was happy to see things going well even as a trade war was spinning up. Sadly the gains were wiped out as you state. Hopefully we get a good trade deal in place with China, the Democrat witch hunt against Trump winds down with his innocence confirmed and stability is back in place, and the good jobs numbers and growth numbers keep rolling in.

 

[Brainonska511]

I think the POTUS only has so much influence on the markets

Translation: I think credit should only be given when the market is up.

 

[darkswordsman17]

So I take it DumbassArachnid is shitting his brains out again trying to desperately show to everyone just how stupid he really is?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Just catching up here. Lots of excuses for Obama's deficit spending. LOL

troll, troll, go away
troll again some other day

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

troll, troll, go away
troll again some other day and fuck off

ftfy

 

[blackangst1]

Dow Jones January 8, 2016 16,346.45
Dow Jones Dec 5, 2018 25,027.07

Gain of 53% since Trump took office

Dow Jones on Jan 4th 2008 12,800.18
Dow Jones on December 30, 2016 19,762.60

Gain of 54% while Obama was in office.

Not bad considering the economy Obama inherited.

 

[TheVrolok]

Dow Jones January 8, 2016 16,346.45
Dow Jones Dec 5, 2018 25,027.07

Gain of 53% since Trump took office

Dow Jones on Jan 4th 2008 12,800.18
Dow Jones on December 30, 2016 19,762.60

Gain of 54% while Obama was in office.

Not bad considering the economy Obama inherited.

Again with the cherry picking/selective interpretation of data. Where did you find this?

Go to https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president and look at the graphs yourself.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Again with the cherry picking/selective interpretation of data. Where did you find this?

Go to https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president and look at the graphs yourself.

Will they show him what he needs to see? If not it will be tagged as superfluous and ignored

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Dow Jones January 8, 2016 16,346.45
Dow Jones Dec 5, 2018 25,027.07

Gain of 53% since Trump took office

Dow Jones on Jan 4th 2008 12,800.18
Dow Jones on December 30, 2016 19,762.60

Gain of 54% while Obama was in office.

Not bad considering the economy Obama inherited.

Yeah. Dates. You suck at them.

Obama took office in 2009. The Dow was 7949.09 the day he took office. The day he left it was at 19827. That’s an increase of 250%.

Trump took office in 2017. The Dow was at 19827. That’s an increase of significantly less than you stated and nowhere near on pace to Obama’s.

Holy shit you’re bad at this.

Oops.

And why the random dates? It’s the goddamn Dow... you can find the number for any specific date you want.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Again with the cherry picking/selective interpretation of data. Where did you find this?

Go to https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president and look at the graphs yourself.

Look at his dates. Tried to pin Obama’s with the market before the collapse by using a date a year before he took office. . Then gave Trump the last year of Obama’s gains.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I feel this is a strong candidate for the highly coveted self-ownage thread of the year. Slow didn't strike me as a 'long game" kinda person. More like a 'shit in your pants and blame the underwear" kinda person
That said, it's December and spidey's been pimping this bullshit for 2 months straight.
Bravo spidey, did not know you had it in you. Nearly a lock for that award, and people are saying, there's many people saying that spidey deserves it, he's earned it fair and square. For him to portray an ignorance that surpasses nearly ever other thread he's made is impressive.

You got my vote spidey.
I'd offer up a toast, but I don't drink anymore so I'll use coffee instead. Cheers, you're a shoe-in.

 

[blackangst1]

Again with the cherry picking/selective interpretation of data. Where did you find this?

Go to https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president and look at the graphs yourself.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

Do you disagree with facts?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

Do you disagree with facts?

You clearly do. Read your prior post again. Then my post and your chart.

Then apologize to the nice man.

 

[blackangst1]

Yeah. Dates. You suck at them.

Obama took office in 2009. The Dow was 7949.09 the day he took office. The day he left it was at 19827. That’s an increase of 250%.

Trump took office in 2017. The Dow was at 19827. That’s an increase of significantly less than you stated and nowhere near on pace to Obama’s.

Holy shit you’re bad at this.

Oops.

And why the random dates? It’s the goddamn Dow... you can find the number for any specific date you want.

opps looked at the wrong year

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

2009 year open 9,034.69
2015 year close 17,425.03

93% increase.

But yeah. I see the outrage. A 53% increase is fucking terrible over 2 years. Sucks actually.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

opps looked at the wrong year

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

2009 year open 9,034.69
2015 year close 17,425.03

93% increase.

But yeah. I see the outrage. A 53% increase is fucking terrible over 2 years. Sucks actually.

Jesus you’re still not doing this right. I gave you the numbers. You still aren’t even close. For either president.

 

[blackangst1]

Jesus you’re still not doing this right. I gave you the numbers. You still aren’t even close. For either president.

No. I modified my numbers. Thy re correct.

 

[nickqt]

No. I modified my numbers. Thy re correct.

If you're going to make a comparison to try to show something, you need to make sure you're using correct numbers based on the correct dates.

Obama's Full term vs. Strongman Trump's term so far:
-Obama: January 20 2009 - January 20 2017
7,949.09 -> 19,827.25 = 249.42% Increase

-Strongman Trump: January 20 2017 - December 5 2018
19,827.25 -> 25,027.07= 126.22% Increase

Obama's term length equal to Strongman Trump's term length:
-Obama: January 20 2009 - December 3 2010
7,949.09 -> 11,382.09 143.18% increase

- Strongman Trump: January 20 2017 - December 5 2018
19,827.25 -> 25,027.07 = 126.22% increase

 

[MixMasterTang]

No. I modified my numbers. Thy re correct.

Using Trump math I see. #AltFacts

 

[MomentsofSanity]

No. I modified my numbers. Thy re correct.

No they aren’t. You are off by thousands of points and are still using the wrong random dates. Either you are incredibly stupid or you are being incredibly dishonest.

 

[darkswordsman17]

No they aren’t. You are off by thousands of points and are still using the wrong random dates. Either you are incredibly stupid or you are being incredibly dishonest.

Its both.

 

[TheVrolok]

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

Do you disagree with facts?

I think my point has been proven.