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balloonshark

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It's almost like they are trying to cause civil unrest while putting the pieces in place to allow the slaughter those who oppose him. The light of democracy grows dim.
 

Sunburn74

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I honestly don't know whats happening but I am seriously getting concerned about a coup...
 

zinfamous

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Hmm, so Trump putting mindless toadies in military command positions, all while screaming about a stolen election that he preposterously believes that he deserved to win?

Wonder what he's thinking, eh?
 

gothuevos

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Yeah I mentioned this in my other thread but was called an alarmist.

Doesn't matter if it's Trump orchestrating these moves or Stephen Miller, Bannon, etc. It's happening. Right before our eyes. And Pence today during lunch with Senate Republicans..."I look forward to continue serving with you, and I think I will."

A blatant power grab is happening right before our eyes and everyone is still naively clinging to the hope that the Constitution will save us. We're long past that. Doesn't matter what the courts say, they will just ignore it and use whatever shady EC shenanigans are available to them to get Biden under 270 and a vote in the House.

We might be done, ladies and gentlemen. If all goes well on 1/20/21 come back here and feel free to laugh at me all you want. Even if it does, lasting damage will have been done, and the next Republican President to get into power will finish things off. I don't think Biden ever gets inaugurated, and if he does, they probably fight him tooth and nail for 4 years as an "illegitimate" President.

RIP
 

cytg111

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Yea but who is orchestrating this? it isnt a brainchild of Trumps imagination... so who is feeding him these strategies?
 

MrSquished

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Yeah I mentioned this in my other thread but was called an alarmist.

Doesn't matter if it's Trump orchestrating these moves or Stephen Miller, Bannon, etc. It's happening. Right before our eyes. And Pence today during lunch with Senate Republicans..."I look forward to continue serving with you, and I think I will."

A blatant power grab is happening right before our eyes and everyone is still naively clinging to the hope that the Constitution will save us. We're long past that. Doesn't matter what the courts say, they will just ignore it and use whatever shady EC shenanigans are available to them to get Biden under 270 and a vote in the House.

We might be done, ladies and gentlemen. If all goes well on 1/20/21 come back here and feel free to laugh at me all you want. Even if it does, lasting damage will have been done, and the next Republican President to get into power will finish things off. I don't think Biden ever gets inaugurated, and if he does, they probably fight him tooth and nail for 4 years as an "illegitimate" President.

RIP

If they do what it looks like they are doing, let's see what the actual military leadership does.
 
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esquared

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The orange menace isn't smart enough to do this.
I am thinking steve bannon, who wanted to burn everything down, anyway.
 
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zinfamous

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Yea but who is orchestrating this? it isnt a brainchild of Trumps imagination... so who is feeding him these strategies?

The Bannon plan.

Kinda like the Marshall Plan, but full of Derp and wholly beloved of Fascists.
 
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Zorba

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I don't care what the norms are, we must prosecute all of these dirt bags.
 

cytg111

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The Bannon plan.

Kinda like the Marshall Plan, but full of Derp and wholly beloved of Fascists.
You think Bannon is talking directly to Trump about these moves?
I mean if we suspect he is, he should be called out on it ... both of them.
 

mikeymikec

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