MrSquished
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What other reason could there be? I don't think Esper actually refused that order it's just Trump is planning for the near future.
What other reason could there be? I don't think Esper actually refused that order it's just Trump is planning for the near future.
Indus
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Vic
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No. Trump is absolutely considering deploying US troops on American soil against American citizens. Y'all need to stop being so naive.
CNN published this story 3 days before the resignation...
www.cnn.com
it ends with...
"One of Esper's most fraught challenges was the direct result of disagreement with the White House: the President's refusal to accept the Pentagon's willingness to rename military bases that honor Confederate generals."
Officials say Defense Secretary Mark Esper is prepared for possibility Trump may fire him | CNN Politics
Defense Secretary Mark Esper is attempting to fashion a graceful exit from office if President Donald Trump decides to fire him regardless of the result of the presidential election, according to several defense sources, including one senior defense official.
it ends with...
"One of Esper's most fraught challenges was the direct result of disagreement with the White House: the President's refusal to accept the Pentagon's willingness to rename military bases that honor Confederate generals."
Thing is, what would the purpose of activating the military for marshal law now? He really should have done it in October to fully suppress the vote. As it stands, he's going to get off scot free under Biden. But if he orders the military on American citizens or gets actual citizens to cause violence on his behalf, he's going to get trialed for treason.
uallas5
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It's bribe money but it's the payment to the UAE for signing a mostly meaningless agreement with Israel to prop up Trump's foreign policy creds before the election. That and some more backroom dealings with the Kushner family to relieve some more of the debt they owe to the UAE national bank.
soundforbjt
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zinfamous
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Trump probably ordered him to write a draft policy about the necessity to bomb muslim countries and round-up traitor muslims in this country. ...intentional, because it looks like the next one in line is absolutely raring to do just that.
cytg111
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I think you are dangerously gullible if you think anything else but that.
Also all of these fuckers resigning... I thought they were trained to stay in the fight...
zinfamous
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It's long considered the only honorable, proper response when you can not conscionably act on the requests of your CIC. Not just military, but also Gov't staff and appointees. Your job is, essentially, to carry out those orders, because "kinda like the pope, who is God's Vicar on earth," POTUS is the "will of the American people."
I mean, they are supposed to be...but we have a system where unpopular losers that can not get a majority of votes (therefore, certainly not the will of the people, by any logical metric), can become POTUS.
But yeah, you are supposed to resign, instead of refusing to carrying out a direct order from CiC. One has to wonder, though, what kind of legal and moral boundaries the Orange cheat-ho is very likely trying to cross here, and if that tradition absolutely needs to be tossed to the dust bin in such circumstances.
soundforbjt
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nOOky
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I sure hope the Space Force isn't going to be impacted by any of Trump's firings. I'd hate to see that useful branch go under.
cytg111
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I hope key democrats are making contact with Esper and others with this in mind.
Fenixgoon
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The opposite - Sean Spicer confirmed Trump tweets are official Whitehouse communications
sactoking
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GoPackGo is referring to the fact that they've since argued that his Twitter is a private account and that he should be able to block people. In other words, they argue whatever is most convenient regardless of what they've argued in the past.
hal2kilo
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pauldun170
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It's a bribe but not in the way you think. It has more to do with influencing UAE-Iran relations and further destabilizing the region for an end goal both isolating Iran and positioning flunkies in the region to be prepared to strike Iranians on our behalf.
Basically the worlds biggest war maker is offering a strings attached shiny object to governments who want to add to their supercar collection.
MrSquished
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cytg111
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Nothing to see here, pass the street please.
Holy fuck this is getting interesting.
(who is advising Trump on these moves.... I dont see it? Is this what happens when he is golfing?)
Fenixgoon
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Mike Pompeo
"There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration"
www.cnn.com
Sure you could naively believe he means after all the votes are counted and still believes Trump can miraculously eke out a victory on votes, buts no shitting my fear of a civil war just went up 1000%
"There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration"
Pompeo refuses to acknowledge Biden has won election, sparking furor and 'disgust' among diplomats
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to acknowledge Joe Biden's victory as President-elect, saying at the State Department Tuesday that "there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration," igniting a furor and roiling diplomats.
www.cnn.com
hal2kilo
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Presidential asperations. What a pathetic joke.Mike Pompeo
"There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration"
Sure you could naively believe he means after all the votes are counted and still believes Trump can miraculously eke out a victory on votes, buts no shitting my fear of a civil war just went up 1000%Pompeo refuses to acknowledge Biden has won election, sparking furor and 'disgust' among diplomats
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to acknowledge Joe Biden's victory as President-elect, saying at the State Department Tuesday that "there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration," igniting a furor and roiling diplomats.
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