my bro was caught with weed in jr. high so he did a 10 page report on it as punishment, the facts he found were staggering in terms of how many times worse alcohol is than weed. a few key points about marijuana.
-numerous studies have been done and NOT 1 have found ANY trace of addictive properties in marijuana
-there are thousands of deaths causes by overdosing on alcohol but there has never, in history, been a case where a man or woman has died as a result of smoking too much weed at 1 time
-the argument of marijuana leading to other drugs is no more valid than if i said "alcohol leads to harder drugs"
-the argument that marijuana causes cancer IS valid BUT it is very misleading, marijuana has 10x the tar as a normal cigarette. keep in mind that LOTS of people smoke 25 cigarettes (1 pack) PER DAY, i don't know 1 person who smokes 2 and a half joints per day.
-alcohol damages over 100x as many brain cells as tetrahydracanabinol does in comparing the amount of alcohol in 1 beer (5%) to the amount of tetrahydracanabinol in 1 joint
-marijuana is a cure for anerexia, depression and acts as a mild pain killer with no long term effects
-marijuana causes laziness but alcohol does also
-some people intoxicated with alcohol can often become very easily enraged as a side effect, people intoxicated with tetrahydracanabinol tend to act mild, passive and non aggressive.
i hope this has been enlightening for you
-numerous studies have been done and NOT 1 have found ANY trace of addictive properties in marijuana
-there are thousands of deaths causes by overdosing on alcohol but there has never, in history, been a case where a man or woman has died as a result of smoking too much weed at 1 time
-the argument of marijuana leading to other drugs is no more valid than if i said "alcohol leads to harder drugs"
-the argument that marijuana causes cancer IS valid BUT it is very misleading, marijuana has 10x the tar as a normal cigarette. keep in mind that LOTS of people smoke 25 cigarettes (1 pack) PER DAY, i don't know 1 person who smokes 2 and a half joints per day.
-alcohol damages over 100x as many brain cells as tetrahydracanabinol does in comparing the amount of alcohol in 1 beer (5%) to the amount of tetrahydracanabinol in 1 joint
-marijuana is a cure for anerexia, depression and acts as a mild pain killer with no long term effects
-marijuana causes laziness but alcohol does also
-some people intoxicated with alcohol can often become very easily enraged as a side effect, people intoxicated with tetrahydracanabinol tend to act mild, passive and non aggressive.
i hope this has been enlightening for you
Marijuana isn't 'harmless', hell nothing is harmless in excess. But, I think that an infrequent toke could come every bit as close to qualifying as harmless as the infrequent drink. However, regular marijuana use in another story.
As for it being a 'gateway' drug, not universally. It was for me, in that it brought me into closer association and contact with people who were doing harder drugs, and going from marijuana to marijuana laced with various other drugs like opium, hash, or methamphetamines (not always to your advanced knowledge) was not that big of a leap, and from there to those harder drugs alone was no more of a leap. But, I acknowledge that it isn't always a gateway drug for everyone, although it undoubtedly introduces people to a general drug culture, which invariably will bring you into closer contact and association with other cultures of criminal activity and behavior.
However, MOST of these issues are only true in no small part because marijuana is a prohibited and criminalized substance. If it were not criminalized, then it wouldn't be necessary to associate with these 'other' criminal or deviant cultures in order obtain marijuana. Marijuana isn't prohibited because people do bad things to get it, people do bad things to get marijuana because its prohibited.
The drug issue precisely parallels our experience with prohibition. There were no Al Capones before prohibition, traffickers were not gunning down law enforcement officers or competitors before prohibition. Prohibition single-handedly CREATED the Al Capones and was the sole impetus for violent crime associated with the illicit trade for a prohibited substance.
Without question, the very same thing can be said for narcotics and marijuana. There were no 'drug lords' or 'cartels' before narcotics and marijuana prohibition. It was not a multi-billion dollar criminal enterprise before prohibition. Nobody was gunning-down law enforcement officers or potential competitors before prohibition and criminalization.
And this business about buying drugs funding terrorism, this again is another direct result of the criminalization of drugs. Sorta like...if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns? Yeah, same thing applies here. Drugs are closely associated with criminal activity because they MADE it that way.
As for it being a 'gateway' drug, not universally. It was for me, in that it brought me into closer association and contact with people who were doing harder drugs, and going from marijuana to marijuana laced with various other drugs like opium, hash, or methamphetamines (not always to your advanced knowledge) was not that big of a leap, and from there to those harder drugs alone was no more of a leap. But, I acknowledge that it isn't always a gateway drug for everyone, although it undoubtedly introduces people to a general drug culture, which invariably will bring you into closer contact and association with other cultures of criminal activity and behavior.
However, MOST of these issues are only true in no small part because marijuana is a prohibited and criminalized substance. If it were not criminalized, then it wouldn't be necessary to associate with these 'other' criminal or deviant cultures in order obtain marijuana. Marijuana isn't prohibited because people do bad things to get it, people do bad things to get marijuana because its prohibited.
The drug issue precisely parallels our experience with prohibition. There were no Al Capones before prohibition, traffickers were not gunning down law enforcement officers or competitors before prohibition. Prohibition single-handedly CREATED the Al Capones and was the sole impetus for violent crime associated with the illicit trade for a prohibited substance.
Without question, the very same thing can be said for narcotics and marijuana. There were no 'drug lords' or 'cartels' before narcotics and marijuana prohibition. It was not a multi-billion dollar criminal enterprise before prohibition. Nobody was gunning-down law enforcement officers or potential competitors before prohibition and criminalization.
And this business about buying drugs funding terrorism, this again is another direct result of the criminalization of drugs. Sorta like...if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns? Yeah, same thing applies here. Drugs are closely associated with criminal activity because they MADE it that way.
apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Eh... there are plenty of other reasons to make fun of lamer stoners.
nik
Well, nik, sorry to burst your bubble, but the rest of us here don't need any reason to make fun of you other than your sorry posts. And you don't even have an excuse for your lameness.
Originally posted by: kamiam
for your edification, nikfrom my link
me thinks nik's oxygen level needs to be turned up
Hahahahaha
l2c
Originally posted by: apoppin
Well, nik, sorry to burst your bubble, but the rest of us here don't need any reason to make fun of you other than your sorry posts. And you don't even have an excuse for your lameness.Originally posted by: ffmcobalt Eh... there are plenty of other reasons to make fun of lamer stoners.
lmfao
Harmless as tobacco? It is more harmless than tobacco. The only reason that it stays illegal is because the tobacco companies would be in deep sh!t if marijuana become legal.
From what I've read MJ will make you:
1. Stupid
2. Lazy
3. Forgetful (memory loss can be a permanent thing with heavy pot smokers)
Potheads just want to smoke pot all day....
1. Stupid
2. Lazy
3. Forgetful (memory loss can be a permanent thing with heavy pot smokers)
Potheads just want to smoke pot all day....
Nah, not really. Since school would weed out (haha) all the retards who have no desire to be there, we'd simply take part of the money that went to subsidize schools and give it to to tobacco companies.
nik
apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: apoppin
Well, nik, sorry to burst your bubble, but the rest of us here don't need any reason to make fun of you other than your sorry posts. And you don't even have an excuse for your lameness.Originally posted by: ffmcobalt Eh... there are plenty of other reasons to make fun of lamer stoners.
lmfao
I'm laughing too.
Thanks for the "entertainment" and good-night.
i think they should legalize marijuana and make alcohol illegal. alcohol does so much more damage to you.
i used to smoke marijuana on a regular basis, my grades remained in the mid 80s (except for that bastard English class), i actually had MORE friends, i met tons of other skaters and my social life was booming. every day i was going somewhere to skate with some guys and if some guy had a joint we would smoke it and go grab some food and just chill out talking and having a good time. i stopped after i got the internet, i started to think clearly but my social life was dead and i lost all my friends because when they were smokin up i would be thinking about computers, when they were buying food from 7/11 i was just sort of there not buying anything because i wasn't hungry, i thought their conversations were rather stupid because i was the only one not stoned. the only thing i gained from putting a halt to weed was money and a stronger sense of shyness than before i started with weed. now i'm segregated from old friends because we have nothing in common and i don't fit in with any groups of school due to a lower sense of confidence and a fear to talk to other people. socializing was FUN when i was stoned, everything everybody said was just fascinating, going to science class stoned made me go to the library and read for HOURS on end going "WHOA no way, that is crazy" then go home and actually TRY the experiment in the book. now it's just sort of boring.
this is depressing as hell, i'm going to pick up some weed tomorrow and try to reclaim my social life.....i never really thought about it until i read this thread
i used to smoke marijuana on a regular basis, my grades remained in the mid 80s (except for that bastard English class), i actually had MORE friends, i met tons of other skaters and my social life was booming. every day i was going somewhere to skate with some guys and if some guy had a joint we would smoke it and go grab some food and just chill out talking and having a good time. i stopped after i got the internet, i started to think clearly but my social life was dead and i lost all my friends because when they were smokin up i would be thinking about computers, when they were buying food from 7/11 i was just sort of there not buying anything because i wasn't hungry, i thought their conversations were rather stupid because i was the only one not stoned. the only thing i gained from putting a halt to weed was money and a stronger sense of shyness than before i started with weed. now i'm segregated from old friends because we have nothing in common and i don't fit in with any groups of school due to a lower sense of confidence and a fear to talk to other people. socializing was FUN when i was stoned, everything everybody said was just fascinating, going to science class stoned made me go to the library and read for HOURS on end going "WHOA no way, that is crazy" then go home and actually TRY the experiment in the book. now it's just sort of boring.
this is depressing as hell, i'm going to pick up some weed tomorrow and try to reclaim my social life.....i never really thought about it until i read this thread
Legalize it. My understanding is that all the negative effects of MJ are temporary and do not exist when the person is dry/sober/whatever. Everything else has already been said in this thread.
I'd just like to state how stupid I think ffmcobalt is acting regarding this topic. It is clearly obvious that he has some sort of vendetta against pot users due to his irrational logic in this thread. 10 bucks says he was always excluded from the group and this is his revenge speaking out.
I'd just like to state how stupid I think ffmcobalt is acting regarding this topic. It is clearly obvious that he has some sort of vendetta against pot users due to his irrational logic in this thread. 10 bucks says he was always excluded from the group and this is his revenge speaking out.
Like everything, it probably depends on the person and how much they smoke, and if for them it will serve as a "gateway drug." For some it does and has. I have read numerous studies on it and none cited overly bad problems with the drug itself. The biggest problem was that when people smoke in excess, it ruins their daily living and they miss out on work, school, proper nutrition, etc which leads to other problems. However, I would think that inhaling anything into your lungs is bad.....
Just saying what I read.
Just saying what I read.
StageLeft
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I think that at worst It's as bad as alcohol overall. We all know about the guy who is slower than a slug from too much weed but then most of us can think of several people who could do with less drinking as well. I think that the physical and psychological effects of weed are probably less, overall, than those of booze.
Personally I like booze more but that's beside the point!
Personally I like booze more but that's beside the point!
read this that was posted later on
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/history/conspiracy.htm
now go back to being an ignorant sheep
*baaaaaa*
You can't compare murder to smoking pot, unless you believe those "you are funding a terrorist" ads that are on TV. Smoking pot doesn't hurt anybody except the smoker(and that is only lung damage)
You really ARE clueless, arn't you.
Yup, all thoes university students and researchers are straight as an arrow. Berkeley invented unix and LSD, coincidence? I think not.
Sorry to burst your bubble twice, but everyone is laughing .. AT YOU.
But you probably did not understand that in school either.
You are like the meathead jock that made really stupid statements, and then was the only one laughing like a goon.
HAHAHAHA!
You've got to be kidding me. Smoking joint after joint and turning violent and slurring your speech? You've never been around people who are high often have you? You can't compare the effects of alcohol to the effects of pot. Just because they are both pretty soft drugs, they have very very different effects on the body and the mind.
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