Many Missouri HS students walk out to protest transgender using wrong bathroom

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HILLSBORO, MO (KTVI) - Students walked out of class on Monday morning over a transgender pupil's right to use the women's locker room. About 200 Hillsboro High School students held their demonstration after 3rd period for about two hours.
There were two groups of demonstrators. One group was on the side of transgender student, Lila Perry, using the female facilities. The other group wants her to use the faculty's gender neutral restroom.

Students protesting longer than two hours could face an in school suspension. Superintendent Aaron Cornman to issued a statement that says in part:

"There does come a point when the school day must continue and we cannot condone behaviors that detract from the overall mission of the district."

Transgender student, Lila Perry, identifies as female. She started using the female facilities at Hillsboro High School starting this school year. Perry has now dropped gym class this semester. She will no longer be using the women's locker room. She still uses the women's restroom.

She came out last February and used the gender-neutral faculty restroom for gym class last semester. Perry said she’s been attacked on social media and fears bullying and violence if she were to start using the boys’ restroom now.

Parents are saying that their daughters are uncomfortable with the situation. Even though Perry wears dresses and a wig, she is still physically a male.

Last Thursday's school board meeting had to be moved into the gym after many parents showed up. The topic wasn't on the agenda but it was clear why they were at the meeting after thunderous applause broke out after one parent spoke.

Derrick Good, a parent of two girls at Hillsboro and an attorney told FOX 2, “They should have the ability to do whatever they need to do in the privacy of the bathroom without having a male in there.”

It’s unclear when and if the school board will make a decision on this. Members of the school board said they cannot comment on the matter.

I'm all about being fair but this guy was already offered a gender neutral bathroom. Now, it's clear much of the student body, mainly the women, are not ok with sharing their gym with another guy, especially one that thinks he's a girl.

I think the school's responsibility should stop at the gender neutral bathroom. There's just no way to keep the school operating efficiently if they're going to make 100's of students uncomfortable just to appease one.
 

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I for one am about zero percent surprised this happened in rural Missouri.

I think you'd find a lot of places have issues with having a "boy" using the girls locker room - especially when parents think of someone seeing their daughters naughty bits
 

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I think you'd find a lot of places have issues with having a "boy" using the girls locker room - especially when parents think of someone seeing their daughters naughty bits

Maybe, but I think rural Missouri is more likely than most.

I remember having a conversation a few years back about what would be this era's shameful bigotry that we would carry forth. For our grandparents it was overt racism. For our parents it was overt homophobia. For us my guess is that it's transphobia.

I imagine that in 20-30 years or so people will look back and be mystified as to why people today had a problem with it.
 

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I think back in the late 90's when LBGT issues were nowhere near equal status, NYC started a LBGT high school when it saw a need to protect LBGT students when the laws and mood of general society would not.

It may be time for other states to do the same to protect their students from discrimination and violence and lawsuits rather than just spouting and trumpeting hate when they don't understand Transgender issues.
 
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I think back in the late 90's when LBGT issues were nowhere near equal status, NYC started a LBGT high school when it saw a need to protect LBGT students when the laws and mood of general society would not.

It may be time for other states to do the same to protect their students from discrimination and violence and lawsuits rather than just spouting and trumpeting hate when they don't understand Transgender issues.

Yes, what is really needed is segregation. I seem to recall that worked out brilliantly for this country in the past until some people got all uppity...
 

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I'm not a fan of segregation but I'm really not for any LBGT getting attacked, assaulted or killed. And then the police will just sweep it under the rug until there's a media spotlight which usually there isn't.

I'm a realist.. I don't expect MO to change overnight, when nearby in KS we have a woman refusing to give marriage certificates to gay couples.
 

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If there was all ready a gender neutral bathroom, or even offered, it's all about look at me I need attention.

I've had to deal with this in the workplace in the past.

I still have LGBT friends from the past in the 70's that do not whine like that, and that was when I was growing up in Indiana.
 
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I'm not a fan of segregation but I'm really not for any LBGT getting attacked, assaulted or killed.

Yeah, you got me. I'm only opposed to segregation because I'm secretly hoping to see an increase in hate crimes among the youth.

Isolating different groups is never the answer, because it takes away any humanizing element and replaces it with a clinical description of the group you're no longer interacting with. That, in turn, makes it easier to stereotype, and that leads to prejudice, so it compounds the feelings that "they are not like us." You put a bunch of kids together and let them grow together and, oh, hey, looks like one of them is gay; now those other kids have a human element to associate with homosexuality. Yes, you'll still have bigots to deal with, but do you really think taking all the gays away from the bigot is going to cure him of his homophobia?
 

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Yes, what is really needed is segregation. I seem to recall that worked out brilliantly for this country in the past until some people got all uppity...
lol +1

Maybe a little segregation is wise for girls with penises in a high school. Might be a buttload (so to speak) of boys suddenly wearing dresses and wigs if it gets them into the girls' showers. "I have decided that I self-identify as a girl. A girl who wears bluejeans. Specifically, a girl who wears bluejeans and has gym at the same period as that new tenth grader with the red hair and sweet rack. Don't you oppress me you bigot!"

Or maybe she simply wanted to be treated like every other person of her self-identified gender.
But "she" ISN'T like "every other person of her self-identified gender." "She" is like every other person of her actual gender except she is wearing dresses and wigs.

I have no problem with anyone who identifies as the opposite sex living that way if he or she so chooses. But when he or she begins claiming bathroom privileges, that makes everyone else uncomfortable. Why is this special snowflake's feelings suddenly so much more important than everyone else's feelings?
 

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She is a he despite the cross dress. These are kids for fucks sake. There is a neutral gender bathroom available....use it and quit seeking the attention.
 
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Maybe a little segregation is wise for girls with penises in a high school. Might be a buttload (so to speak) of boys suddenly wearing dresses and wigs if it gets them into the girls' showers. "I have decided that I self-identify as a girl. A girl who wears bluejeans. Specifically, a girl who wears bluejeans and has gym at the same period as that new tenth grader with the red hair and sweet rack. Don't you oppress me you bigot!"

Really….the Huckabee argument?
 

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I think you'd find a lot of places have issues with having a "boy" using the girls locker room - especially when parents think of someone seeing their daughters naughty bits

Dont they have doors on the stalls in girls rooms?
 

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Dont they have doors on the stalls in girls rooms?

Some do some don't. And probably not enough to satisfy an entire class that's trying to change and get ready at the same time.

My guess is these students don't have the best arrangement to accommodate a dude in the girls locker room without most of the girls refusing to participate.
 

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I for one am about zero percent surprised this happened in rural Missouri.
I thought this was supposed to be a sarcastic comment. Boys pretending to be girls in San Francisco so they can sue the school? Not surprising. Boys pretending to be girls in rural America is somewhat surprising. The amount of bullying they receive must be horrific.


Or maybe she simply wanted to be treated like every other person of her self-identified gender.
Serious question: why? If you think bullying in the girl's bathroom or change room will be less severe, you are mistaken. Why do you think so many women have major self esteem issues? It's not the media. It's constant bullying from other women during those school years. Constant harassment, being called stupid, fat, ugly, poorly dressed, being told to kill yourself, etc. If you're actually a boy, you should not willingly subject yourself to that kind of abuse. Maybe guys don't realize this, but girls socialize in the bathroom. You are never alone in a girl's bathroom. There will always be someone there, and they will make an asshole comment if they socially outrank you. They don't even need to say anything to hurt your feelings. Imagine you walk into the bathroom, everyone in there stops talking, and they leave without looking at you or saying anything to you. That is the kind of emotional bullying this transgender person is fighting for.

I think the school should allow it. It's not like sex-crazed jocks are going to start wearing dresses and sneak into the ladies room. Transgender teens are more often the victims rather than the perpetrators.

Good lord. That person will be called the most awful things imaginable if they try to enter a girls-only space. They'll turn around in the change room and find that their wig has been thrown in the toilet. Their towel will be stolen. Their clothes will be thrown into the shower. I wish this kid luck because he's going to need a lot of it.
 
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Who cares?

The boy needs some counseling, not to be coddled by society. A huge portion of "transgenders" either revert or kill themselves once the limelight is gone.

Use the bathroom you were given and shut the fuck up about it already.
 

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I'm all for gay and transgender being accepted into main stream society and fully support them getting individual equal rights in this country, but it's unrealistic to think that at a flick of a switch or a snap of a finger , this is going to be accepted everywhere and anywhere without question for "fear of the other" or other such phobia's. Hell, this is rural Missouri, its surprising they even offered a neutral bathroom. It seems to be a baby step in acceptance.

These kids are going home and telling their parents that a transgender boy is using the girls bathroom. You don't think some "thats my little girl!" alpha male father isn't storming into that school wondering why some hormone raging 17 year old boy with a dress and make-up on is taking a piss in the stall next to "daddy's little girl". Hell, I'm sure some parents in rural Missouri still think the kid has a disease or will "outgrow his confusion". It' seems that this is creating a disruption at the school that really doesn't have to be there.
 

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She is a Male. He has a neutral restroom to use. He should use it and quit being a drama queen.

She is a Male.

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We should start making a Playypus bathroom, those are pretty common.

I guess I all ready posted about that one above.

An answer to the problem was provided to this problem.

This individual is now going way over bounds at that point, and expects to be treated even more special.

Some person did not want to use it.
 
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