Manhunt for cop killer in Los Angeles

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airdata

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Somebody just sent me a private message w\ a few links saying the 20 page is the legit one...

I just find it hard to believe that he goes 10+ pages in w\ a serious manifesto and then suddenly turns into talking about liking michelle obama's bangs... charlie sheen is awesome... etc etc for 10 more pages.


I mean, up until he starts listing off every police officer as a high value target, you had to be on his side.... blew whistle, gets fired + stripped of security clearance and by doing that is no longer able to simple get another LEO job....

I'm just gonna say that this is the information age and it's not impossible to doctor a pdf or for somebody to doctor it and put it out in order to smear the guy's name further and make him just seem crazy instead of vengeful.
 
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Somebody just sent me a private message w\ a few links saying the 20 page is the legit one...

I just find it hard to believe that he goes 10+ pages in w\ a serious manifesto and then suddenly turns into talking about liking michelle obama's bangs... charlie sheen is awesome... etc etc for 10 more pages.


I mean, up until he starts listing off every police officer as a high value target, you had to be on his side.... blew whistle, gets fired + stripped of security clearance and by doing that is no longer able to simple get another LEO job....

I'm just gonna say that this is the information age and it's not impossible to doctor a pdf or for somebody to doctor it and put it out in order to smear the guy's name further and make him just seem crazy instead of vengeful.

I got a link as well from someone

Here are the links

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/lapd-spree-killers-full-manifesto-showing-support-for-gun-co

http://www.myfoxla.com/story/2101885...about-slayings

http://documents.latimes.com/christo...ner-manifesto/
 

momeNt

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Not fake. God damn you are stupid. The media put out the scrubbed version at request of police (or they didn't want the far left extreme progressive stuff left in). The long version is the full one.

I get it. Liberals are going to say he didn't write that or he's not really a far left extremist progressive. The facts are he's one of you.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/lapd-spree-killers-full-manifesto-showing-support-for-gun-co

I'll reserve judgment on this, anything that's being posted at the request of the police I believe is probably tainted.

How do those thinking the 20 page document is original? It's written in another voice and is littered with typos. First 10 pages are completely different, and are most likely valid.
 

Darwin333

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The Ridgeline is also mystifying. It looks like they hit it from the side and the Ridgline's most distinct feature is the unique angle where the cab connects to the bed. It just isn't possible to look at a Ridgeline's profile and mistake it for anything else.

At least they got a full size truck this time. A few more tries and they might've gotten the make right.

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Was the guy running or something? I really really want to see the dashboard cam on this one. The other one can sort of be explained (left up to me it would be at their sentencing hearing) by rash judgement in the heat of the moment. Ramming a moving vehicle and then shooting at it isn't, or at least shouldn't be, something they decide and carry out in any time frame that could be considered "rash". Did they even give the guy a chance to pull over or did they just go straight to trying to kill him?
 

waggy

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Was the guy running or something? I really really want to see the dashboard cam on this one. The other one can sort of be explained (left up to me it would be at their sentencing hearing) by rash judgement in the heat of the moment. Ramming a moving vehicle and then shooting at it isn't, or at least shouldn't be, something they decide and carry out in any time frame that could be considered "rash". Did they even give the guy a chance to pull over or did they just go straight to trying to kill him?

agreed i would love to see dash cam feed.

one post said a witness said they just ran up rammed it and started shooting. pretty much the same thing they did with the other truck.
 

Pantoot

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Six police officers were involved in shooting the newspaper delivery women. Luckily not one of them can shoot for shit.
Six police officers fired an unknown number of shots at the women, said LAPD spokesman Andy Smith. They are currently on paid administrative leave as the circumstances of the shooting are investigated.

The attorney for the women, Glen Jonas, says the officers did not follow protocol or the rules of engagement when using deadly force.

"With no warning, no command, or no instructions, LAPD opened fire on their vehicle," Jonas said
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agreed i would love to see dash cam feed.

one post said a witness said they just ran up rammed it and started shooting. pretty much the same thing they did with the other truck.



I have no doubt that the camera... malfunctioned... that day.
 

Darwin333

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Six police officers were involved in shooting the newspaper delivery women. Luckily not one of them can shoot for shit.

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See, that just pisses me the fuck off.

I know they have rules and shit and initially they try to give the officer the benefit of the doubt but they were looking for a 6' tall black guy and shot the shit out of a truck that had two females in it. Clearly they didn't identify their target nor did they have reason to believe the use of deadly force was necessary. That makes this a crime and they damn sure shouldn't be on paid anything unless they are making license plates at the state pen.
 

nextJin

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Six police officers were involved in shooting the newspaper delivery women. Luckily not one of them can shoot for shit.

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Yea they are done, they are going to be fired at the very least, they will not even be mall cops in the middle of no where Kansas. At the most jail time for criminal negligence.
 
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See, that just pisses me the fuck off.

I know they have rules and shit and initially they try to give the officer the benefit of the doubt but they were looking for a 6' tall black guy and shot the shit out of a truck that had two females in it. Clearly they didn't identify their target nor did they have reason to believe the use of deadly force was necessary. That makes this a crime and they damn sure shouldn't be on paid anything unless they are making license plates at the state pen.



This happens -all- the time, and there are very rarely any implications for it. About the only time an officer is truly disciplined is when there is actual audio/video footage taken by a bystander who is able to get away before their camera is destroyed.


And, they are on paid leave until they are investigated by their fellow officers. Look at the psycho lib extremist, he got burned for crossing that 'thin blue line', they all know when happens when they punish one of their own.

Disgusting.
 

waggy

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Yea they are done, they are going to be fired at the very least, they will not even be mall cops in the middle of no where Kansas. At the most jail time for criminal negligence.

doubt it. though it is getting more attention so them getting fired is possible. i will say i will be surprised if it happens.


i do think they need to be fired and charged.
 
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Anyone here live in LA? I would seriously be a bit worried about going out in public, with all of these innocent citizens getting shot at by trigger happy cops.

BTW, my local news is not reporting any of this.
 
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doubt it. though it is getting more attention so them getting fired is possible. i will say i will be surprised if it happens.


i do think they need to be fired and charged.

Agree, What the cops did is so wrong and a complete over-reaction. They MUST be charged and face criminal charges but I have a hard time believing they will serious action though.
 

Phokus

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Yeah, we tried to kill you and your truck is demolished, thanks for your cooperation.

"We're protecting our own deputies, and we're doing whatever needs to be done to ensure the safety of our deputies as well as the public," Whitmore said.

LMAO bullshit
 
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I think even you would have to agree that all the partisan bickering in this thread (mostly from Phokus and Spidey) is stupid and irrelevant. Right?


Not really, this is politics and news, and the psycho killer does seem to be a liberal extremist.


Of course, I'm all about free speech rather than censoring opinions which don't agree with mine, so take it for what it's worth. 99% of the BS posts are from your fellow lib friends anyway.
 

BoberFett

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I'm doing no such thing as partisan bickering. Just posting the facts that this moonbat is a far left extreme liberal progressive and that part of the story is totally absent from the media. In fact it's being flat out ignored.

It's very important to highlight the fact that his far left extreme views are being buried, vs if this were some conservative or republican it would be the lead story on every network and you know it would be.

I let the facts and truth speak for themselves.

There's nothing that indicates this guy is doing anything based on political leanings, he's pissed off and and he let it drive him nuts. Stop trying to make this about politics.
 

Lithium381

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THIS is the reason the 2nd amendment should not be cut off at the knees like in california. The police have LOTS of firepower and no responsibility nor accountability for it. There are implications that there is a shitton of corruption here. When the citizenry is at the mercy of THIS because they're after a single indivudal we need to reevaluate how much power we've given up.

Imagine if they were looking for a group of people, all equally trained as this guy, in some sort of militia group. Nobody would be safe. Thank goodness the guy wasn't driving a silver or white corolla the most popular car in CA(i think)
 

spidey07

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There's nothing that indicates this guy is doing anything based on political leanings, he's pissed off and and he let it drive him nuts. Stop trying to make this about politics.

He made it about politics with all the far left extreme political views expressed in the manifesto. He goes so far as saying he could have been stopped by an assault weapons ban, praising Feinstein urging her to "think of the children" and that he shouldn't be allowed to have the weapons he's using.

He made it very much about politics.
 

Screech

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Anyone here live in LA? I would seriously be a bit worried about going out in public, with all of these innocent citizens getting shot at by trigger happy cops.

BTW, my local news is not reporting any of this.

Yeah -- and this is one of those days that I'm happy I have a corolla instead of a truck. ;)

I hope dorner doesn't steal a corolla and drive it around, cause then theres no way in hell im driving anywhere.....
 

waggy

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Yeah -- and this is one of those days that I'm happy I have a corolla instead of a truck. ;)

I hope dorner doesn't steal a corolla and drive it around, cause then theres no way in hell im driving anywhere.....

lol yeah i was thinking i hope he does not steal something common.
 

spidey07

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You're not very bright.

You don't interpret that as mockery towards Feinstein?

It honestly reads like a batshit loony toon fascist from Kentuckystan. He probably even tutored at the Spidey madrasa in your backyard.


I know you guys have problems with concepts like irony, humor, and subtext, so comprehension of most text is generally lost on you, but come on! put a little thought into it

Wow...so now the liberal is going to say "oh, he was kidding and not serious"

Face it, he's one of you. Far left extremist liberal progressive.

We've gone from "that's a fake, he didn't write that". To "well he's not a liberal" to now "oh, it's just satire". Anything to deflect from the truth of this guy being a far left extremist wackjob.
 
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Wow...so now the liberal is going to say "oh, he was kidding and not serious"

Face it, he's one of you. Far left extremist liberal progressive.

We've gone from "that's a fake, he didn't write that". To "well he's not a liberal" to now "oh, it's just satire". Anything to deflect from the truth of this guy being a far left extremist wackjob.

I don't take it as satire (assuming he wrote it), but I see no reason to think he is a "far left liberal progressive." He supports George H.W. Bush, Chris Christie and John Huntsman, among others - you won't find many Occupy protestors who would say that.

It appears to me he, like most thinking people, adopts views from both sides of the political aisle. In any case I see no reason to believe this is a politically-motivated crime, and anyone who tries to turn it into that is trying wedge a square peg into a round hole. It's like saying Sandy Hook was politically motivated because Adam Lanza was politically conservative - one thing has nothing to do with the other (as opposed to something like the OKC bombing, which was explicitly a political act).
 

SSSnail

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Did anyone care to mention to spidey that he also praised George Bush?

Is spidey being an idiot, again?