Manhunt for cop killer in Los Angeles

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Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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What do you guys think:

1. Is he hunkering down in the mountains/snow, possibly planing an ambush etc? or

2. Did he dump his truck (and burn it) there to misdirect/occupy the police while he escapes elsewhere?

Fern

He is definitely in it for the long haul. I am sure he has something else planned.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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The biggest part of this story is a far left extremist going on a murdering rampage. Let's not forget he is a far left extremist who loved his liberal TV newscasters.

lol, no it's not.

how is the Kentukistan madrasa going? You guys get that funding for another year?
 

Dari

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Oct 25, 2002
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Are you sure I didnt read that. Why would a daughter of his attorney have anything to do at trial. Still does not explain her boyfriend getting killed for being at wrong place wrong time.

His eyes are crazed narcissist serial killer so don't even bother looking for justification. Only justifiable reason to kill someone is self defense. You or them life or death not a silly job or your feelings were hurt.

Your labels won't change the fact that the LAPD turned him into this. It also appears that you know very little about the corruption that is the LAPD. They have a cowboy mentality towards civilians and suspects. They also have gang members in their midst and do nothing about it. Who do you think these gang members work for?
 

Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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Oh HELL no, HELL FUCKING no you don't. The manifesto is dripping with with extremist far left liberal views, even praising the media who fueled his murdering rage along with Feinstein. This fucker was cock gobbling Joe Biden for christ sake!

Had he been a republican praising Sara Palin you know it would be front page news 24x7. So far even CNN is STILL saying "11 page manifesto", trying to sweep it under the rug.

I'm not trying to hurt the other side, only expose them. Are you going to try and say this is not some extremist liberal wack job next? Hell, his manifesto reads like the liberal loons on this site word for word almost.

Are you ready to demand MSNBC apologize for fueling his mass murdering rage?

I am not even going to attempt to decipher that off the deep end rant.

Again, his political leanings so far have not been shown to be a factor WHATSOEVER in his actions. So far his actions have been that of a crazy asshole.

Its kind of like you, when you eventually go completely off the deep end and start shooting people it will be because your batshit crazy. The rabid right part is rather irrelevant because that did not make you do crazy shit, you being batshit crazy is the only important issue.

Frankly, if I were a Democrat I would be holding fundraisers around the clock to pay you to be a Republican spokesperson. They would sweep both elected branches of Federal government and probably a bunch of states as well.
 

yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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Are you sure I didnt read that. Why would a daughter of his attorney have anything to do at trial. Still does not explain her boyfriend getting killed for being at wrong place wrong time.

His eyes are crazed narcissist serial killer so don't even bother looking for justification. Only justifiable reason to kill someone is self defense. You or them life or death not a silly job or your feelings were hurt.
According to reddit. I didn't fact check their sources, so it could be wrong.
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/184570/detailed_timeline_background_updates_about_former/
 

Farang

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Jul 7, 2003
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So going through the manifesto, it seems he has a legitimite gripe (by that I mean he doesn't sound crazy but more just extremely pissed off). What I can't reconcile is this seemingly reasonable, pissed off individual, killing the daughter and her fiance of the man who represented him? Can anyone explain this?

Not saying I want to give him a lot of credibility but based on his writing I would have expected him to kill different people.
 

pauldun170

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According to reddit. I didn't fact check their sources, so it could be wrong.
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/184570/detailed_timeline_background_updates_about_former/


I liked this comment..

The police have shot 3 innocent people (that we know about). The "bad guy" has also shot 3 people (1 cop and 2 people directly related to cops). So both sides have shot the same number of people. I guess the big difference is the "bad guy" didn't miss.
 

spidey07

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As long as we have established this a far left extremist nut that's good enough

I eagerly await the media to pick up and run with this.

In the mean time I give you tactical duck boots and cape.
 

Oldgamer

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Jan 15, 2013
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Not seeing this on cnn or fox, but in LA right now there is some chaos forming.
Yahoo news link

Apparently an ex cop has killed two.
Police stopped his vehicle and he opened fire, there was a shootout.
He runs, has a crazy manifesto released today saying LAPD is corrupt and he is going to war.

LAPD shoots multiple people for being in a vehicle that (somewhat) matches the guy's vehicles description.


LAPD has pulled all of its motor units for their safety


I read this guys manifesto in it's entirety. Sad thing is, he thinks this will bring media attention to the police abuses and brutality, but all this has done is caused them to disregard what he is saying, and focus on him killing people. There are much better ways of trying to get media attention for police abuse, the blue wall, and his being let go from the force.

I do believe him that most of what he says is true concerning the police abuses. I mean lets face it, we see this stuff in the news, and online almost every day. But again, he is killing people, and that alone uses up any credibility you had with most reasonable folks.
 

blankslate

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Jun 16, 2008
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It'd be interesting to see if anything in his manifesto checks out. One thing that comes to mind is the allegation that an officer involved in the beating of Rodney King is now a police precinct captain.

Are any reporters looking into the accusations against the LAPD that he has made?

Sure one of the best ways convince people of a lie is to feed them some truth at the same time.

However, I'm having a hard time discounting his allegations against the LAPD as just so much hot air considering its history.

His actions particularly in the targeting of an officer's daughter is beyond the pale even if the allegations are true.

It's just a messed up situation, it's even more so if the LAPD did sweep true allegations of brutality under the rug and then this person went on a rampage.
 

yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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I read this guys manifesto in it's entirety. Sad thing is, he thinks this will bring media attention to the police abuses and brutality, but all this has done is caused them to disregard what he is saying, and focus on him killing people. There are much better ways of trying to get media attention for police abuse, the blue wall, and his being let go from the force.

I do believe him that most of what he says is true concerning the police abuses. I mean lets face it, we see this stuff in the news, and online almost every day. But again, he is killing people, and that alone uses up any credibility you had with most reasonable folks.

It seems like his manifesto is getting quite a bit of attention. Who else here would've read it otherwise if it weren't for his rampage? He's been ranting about the LAPD for years before he went psycho.
 
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So going through the manifesto, it seems he has a legitimite gripe (by that I mean he doesn't sound crazy but more just extremely pissed off). What I can't reconcile is this seemingly reasonable, pissed off individual, killing the daughter and her fiance of the man who represented him? Can anyone explain this?

Not saying I want to give him a lot of credibility but based on his writing I would have expected him to kill different people.

Apparently he went after the daughter because he doesn't have kids and wanted to kill the kids of the cops. Probably his sick way of making them suffer and get revenge.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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I came on this late but heard briefly what's going on. I saw something on the news showing what I think was his truck, burnt. Did he burn his truck, or did he actually get caught?

While I don't think his killing of any people is right, I do hope he gets his story out before he is caught. Nothing worse than hush hush corruption. They need to be exposed, if there is something going on that they are hiding.

Also not cool that they're shooting up random vehicles just because they think it might possibly be him. Talk about shooting now and asking questions later.
 

Farang

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Jul 7, 2003
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Apparently he went after the daughter because he doesn't have kids and wanted to kill the kids of the cops. Probably his sick way of making them suffer and get revenge.

Yea that doesn't make any sense. Especially because that guy seemed to be one of the lesser wrongdoers, unless I'm mistaken. Wouldn't he kill the children of the head-kicker first?
 

Oldgamer

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I came on this late but heard briefly what's going on. I saw something on the news showing what I think was his truck, burnt. Did he burn his truck, or did he actually get caught?

While I don't think his killing of any people is right, I do hope he gets his story out before he is caught. Nothing worse than hush hush corruption. They need to be exposed, if there is something going on that they are hiding.

Also not cool that they're shooting up random vehicles just because they think it might possibly be him. Talk about shooting now and asking questions later.



Yea that is a huge problem with LAPD. They are trigger happy.
 

SSSnail

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Nov 29, 2006
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Yea that doesn't make any sense. Especially because that guy seemed to be one of the lesser wrongdoers, unless I'm mistaken. Wouldn't he kill the children of the head-kicker first?
My guess is that he started with the guy that was closest to his case, which was a guy that represented him (or in this case, according to Dorner, did not work in his client's best interest), who is also a retired LAPD Captain.
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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Your labels won't change the fact that the LAPD turned him into this. It also appears that you know very little about the corruption that is the LAPD. They have a cowboy mentality towards civilians and suspects. They also have gang members in their midst and do nothing about it. Who do you think these gang members work for?

haha i grew up in the OC and have two uncles that were LAPD in the 70s when if you talked smack to them you'd be in the hospital for a few weeks with resisting arrest charges. Guess he shouldn't have joined such a well known corrupt org and work to change by becoming a pro bono lawyer for many of their victims. Money they understand and things have gotten better since the 1970s. Almost every PD in the country is highly corrupt this s nothing new - until very recently they filled the KKK's role. This is just insanity and they didnt turn him crazy plenty of people lose their jobs for BS reasons everyday - one colleague of mine had drugs panted in his desk - but didn't go on a shooting spree. Crazy people do that. His GF said he was crazy long ago. This just set him off.
 
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Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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I feel bad for how this will affect the majority of cops that aren't dirtbags. I must say his crazy manifesto, is the best crazy manifesto I've ever read
This made me laugh. ALL do dirt bag moves like pad hrs last 1-3 years to take home 200K in retirement as opposed to commensurate with what they normally made in a 40hr work week their entire career. All want lilly white patrols as opposed to tough community policing in areas that need it most. Then it gets a little less that lie. Even less abuse suspects but naw man I wouldn't say majority are good by a long shot IME. Just look how they are shooting up innocent people not even IDing suspects. Just a hail of bullets on blue trucks and SUVs. I'd be at the body shop getting a paint job if i had a blue titan about now.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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As long as I have established this a far left extremist nut that's good enough

I eagerly await the media to pick up and run with this.

In the mean time I give you tactical duck boots and cape.

fixed for accuracy
 

holden j caufield

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Dec 30, 1999
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Theory is he crossed the blue line and it's probably the biggest no no in that fraternity. Thus the higher ups probably told his lapd attorney to not to give it a good effort? This thing plays out like a movie and I can't imagine him still being in the mountains.
 

JEDIYoda

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Jul 13, 2005
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Gotta Love it...a real life Rambo.......rofl....admit it....who is rooting for the cop killer??

I sure as hell do not condone the killing if people...

BTW -- I believe his allegations to be totally true....