Manhunt for cop killer in Los Angeles

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klinc

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Final report will find another propane tank probably standing flat bang in the middle of a living room and blame it for the fire
 
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Sheriff: No intent to burn down the building

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/13/dorner-lapd-officer-fugitive-gunbattle/1915961/

despite using incendiaries. Any definition of incendiary is basically something designed to set fire to something.

Some articles are wording it pryo-technic... yea I guess they had leftover from New Years celebration?


Yes, that's exactly what I said earlier... And I call total bullshit on what that sheriff is claiming.

There are two specific type of smoke grenades, one which is primarily just smoke (the canister gets warm, but not enough to combust anything) and another specific 'incendiary' type that essentially shoots out flames, similar to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlQc9a6-cjU

If you throw that in house, it will burn down.

Compared to a 'smoke' grenade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg6qKN8V9aU


They flat out murdered dorner. Disgusting gang of pigs.
 
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keird

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Yes, that's exactly what I said earlier... And I call total bullshit on what that sheriff is claiming.

There are two specific type of smoke grenades, one which is primarily just smoke (the canister gets warm, but not enough to combust anything) and another specific 'incendiary' type that essentially shoots out flames, similar to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlQc9a6-cjU

If you throw that in house, it will burn down.

Compared to a 'smoke' grenade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg6qKN8V9aU


They flat out murdered dorner. Disgusting gang of pigs.

Also, stun grenades have an incendiary aspect to them.
 

Nebor

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While I tend to think fire is a bit repugnant as a means of law enforcement, I have reasonable friends that think it was totally justified and would have done the same thing. You know for a fact that he's not going to be captured alive. He's just exchanged another couple hundred rounds with some sheriff's deputies. What's the difference between burning him to death and shooting him to death? He was going to die either way.

In the military, if a structure (or cave) is full of bad guys that are willing to kill you, you don't typically try to charge in to capture them. You hit the building with an air strike, or other explosive effects (tanks, CCA, artillery, MLRS, etc.)
 

Genx87

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While I tend to think fire is a bit repugnant as a means of law enforcement, I have reasonable friends that think it was totally justified and would have done the same thing. You know for a fact that he's not going to be captured alive. He's just exchanged another couple hundred rounds with some sheriff's deputies. What's the difference between burning him to death and shooting him to death? He was going to die either way.

In the military, if a structure (or cave) is full of bad guys that are willing to kill you, you don't typically try to charge in to capture them. You hit the building with an air strike, or other explosive effects (tanks, CCA, artillery, MLRS, etc.)

It is interesting you compare this to the military. Our police should not be acting like the military.
 

nextJin

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This isn't the military though. This is a domestic issue where you're innocent until proven guilty.

He tried escaping out the back firing his weapon and had to go back inside...

The man was going to die, he chose to stay in there as opposed to throwing his weapons out and coming out with his hands behind his head.
 

Svnla

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Either you're willfully ignorant, blind, or stupid that you don't see all the shits that are wrong about the LAPD. Everything about their corruption, racism, abuse is online. Some of the well documented ones are even in movies. Like I said, if you're too damn retarded to figure out the events that I'm taking about, just stop.

tl;dr you're retarded.

Edit: I have friends and acquaintances in LAPD and the LA DA office.

Did I say LAPD is all that? Nope. Never did.

Did you even bother to read my reply to other posters that anything is possible and I am more than open mind to listen to new evidences if Dorner was telling the truth?

Still no link/story/article to dispute my statements? Nope. Nada. But more bull crap insults because you have nothing. Better take your own advise and just stop.

I do have friends who are working in various law enforcement agencies and know a few LEOs myself. Look, I am the greatest.:rolleyes:

Until you have a few articles to dispute my statements, just stop quoting me and I will do the same.
 
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BoberFett

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Thats what amusing when people say oh the FBI needs to get into the LAPD.

Wont do a damn thing. They were there 10 years didnt do a thing.

We have a serious endemic problem in this country with govt vs citizens. We moved from a public servant citizen role to like a master subject one. Where citizens only use is to keep tier mouth shut and provide taxes for thier projects and pensions.

and the 4th branch of govt, media, is failing hard- simply sycophants these days.

Truth
 

nextJin

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If he was really capable of the things he threatened to do, there wouldn't have been any talk.

Yep he would have never released his manifesto until the last minute. He ruined his plan as soon as he released it. If he were competent he would have known about things like the fog of war, element of surprise, discretion, violence of action, etc.
 

pauldun170

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This isn't the military though. This is a domestic issue where you're innocent until proven guilty.


Wouldn't it be HILARIOUS if the evidence proved that Dorner was not responsible for killing the daughter and the fiance? That he was set-up?

“I don’t have a problem with you. I just want to clear my name.”
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-to-captives-i-just-want-to-clear-my-name.html
All kidding aside, Dorner was entitled to his day in court.
Officers throughout California seem to think he was only entitled to a bullet.
 

Capt Caveman

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Wouldn't it be HILARIOUS if the evidence proved that Dorner was not responsible for killing the daughter and the fiance? That he was set-up?

All kidding aside, Dorner was entitled to his day in court.
Officers throughout California seem to think he was only entitled to a bullet.

Well, if he had just given up instead of killing another officer and as he said in his manifesto, he didn't plan on being taken alive, not sure how that would be possible to have his day in court since he didn't want one.
 

pauldun170

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Well, if he had just given up instead of killing another officer and as he said in his manifesto, he didn't plan on being taken alive, not sure how that would be possible to have his day in court since he didn't want one.

doesn't matter.
He was still entitled to his day in court.
 

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