Man who installed Hillary email server given immunity by government

lopri

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There is not going to be an indictment. If anything the investigation is to ensure Clinton will come out unscathed in the end.

Ugh people will make any kind of mountains out of Clinton's uninteresting holes.
 

lopri

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I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.
 

michal1980

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I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.

so this grandma should run the USA?
 

lopri

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Where would you draw the line? With written and verbal tests on how to set up an e-mail server? Would you apply the same standard to all other candidates? Then my answer is yes.
 

OutHouse

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I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.

good god just stop posting.
 

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Where would you draw the line? With written and verbal tests on how to set up an e-mail server? Would you apply the same standard to all other candidates? Then my answer is yes.

Not tests on how to set up an email server. How about how to USE ONE WITHOUT COMPROMISING CLASSIFIED NATIONAL DOCUMENTS?

Do you really want to elect someone so incompetent they can't keep classified documents within the secured state dept. system?

You make her sound like a senile grandma. That doesn't sound like someone fit to be commander in chief to me.
 

pcgeek11

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I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.

And you really believe this.... ? Really?
 

SP33Demon

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I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.
Yeah, don't forget skype to vchat with her peeps. :rolleyes:
 

UglyCasanova

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Are you asking the same thing about trump, who also doesn't use a computer?

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-email-computer-use-texting-2015-7

Let me guess, trump is different.

I can't speak for Michal but for me Trump is no different, both will lie and say whatever it takes to get elected. I liked Rand well enough - primarily because he more than any of the other candidates wanted to quit policing the world and curb the abuses brought to light by Snowden - but of course that wasn't good enough for the GOP. No matter who gets elected this election cycle we lose.
 

lopri

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Not tests on how to set up an email server. How about how to USE ONE WITHOUT COMPROMISING CLASSIFIED NATIONAL DOCUMENTS?
Did you read the emails? They are all in public domain now. A few of them are classfied retroactively.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hill...-half-collection-now-public/story?id=34851466

I read some of them and they are all the same, e.g. BS stuff. In retrospect she probably should not have done that, but my understanding is that this was a commonplace activities for her priors and other similarly situated officials. As usual Clinton is subject to a different standard, so I am defending her until she is proven guilty.
 

BoberFett

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I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.

Good god, the excuses some people make for Hillary.

Bush was the dumbest president ever, but he fooled Hillary into invading Iraq.

She's just a little old naive grandma, she doesn't know nothing about no newfangled computers, but she is going to be sure we maintain net neutrality.

Is there any weakness which Hillary's sycophants won't sweep under the rug? If Hillary went to your house and kicked your dog, would you say it's because she can predict the future and knew it was going to take a dump on the carpet?
 
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theeedude

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If the Clintons create 20M+ jobs while balancing the budget again, don't drop the ball and get 3000 Americans killed in NYC, don't start two unnecessary wars costing thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars, they can use ATOT PMs as their official email for all I care.
 

SP33Demon

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If the Clintons create 20M+ jobs while balancing the budget again, don't drop the ball and get 3000 Americans killed in NYC, don't start two unnecessary wars costing thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars, they can use ATOT PMs as their official email for all I care.
You keep touting this jobs number, but fail to tell us that it was the tech boom of 2000 that was responsible for that and the surplus. That's called luck, not anything they did. Sometimes you're just in the right place at the right time.
 

pcgeek11

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Did you read the emails? They are all in public domain now. A few of them are classfied retroactively.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hill...-half-collection-now-public/story?id=34851466

I read some of them and they are all the same, e.g. BS stuff. In retrospect she probably should not have done that, but my understanding is that this was a commonplace activities for her priors and other similarly situated officials. As usual Clinton is subject to a different standard, so I am defending her until she is proven guilty.

No they are not "ALL" in the public domain.... The Top Secret and above TS are not.
 

HamburgerBoy

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You keep touting this jobs number, but fail to tell us that it was the tech boom of 2000 that was responsible for that and the surplus. That's called luck, not anything they did. Sometimes you're just in the right place at the right time.

This is something I hear a lot (especially from my faux-libertarian dad), but how exactly do you quantify the contribution that technology brings compared to anything else? Technology kills jobs too (yay automation), and I don't see how it directly feeds into a budget surplus at all. Are you saying all the cool new advances in computing/the internet were so profitable that Clinton & co. enjoyed nice tax revenues from it? Don't get me wrong, I'm a total libertarian idealist myself, but I don't think it ever works that way. I mean, technology has been consistently improving at an amazing rate since the industrial revolution, like, why did we have a depression in the 30s when the automobile and the radio had just made it big? If the government were to tax people the same but put all the money into research/technology, would we be this super awesome unbeatable economic force?
 
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BoberFett

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If the Clintons create 20M+ jobs while balancing the budget again, don't drop the ball and get 3000 Americans killed in NYC, don't start two unnecessary wars costing thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars, they can use ATOT PMs as their official email for all I care.

Bill Clinton created a bubble, he was just lucky it popped shortly after he left office. He also dropped the ball on Bin Laden, he was just lucky that the attack happened after he left office. And Hillary will definitely start wars.

But then again, I am talking to the guy who believes slave labor is OK as long as he saves a nickel on lettuce.
 

SP33Demon

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This is something I hear a lot (especially from my faux-libertarian dad), but how exactly do you quantify the contribution that technology brings compared to anything else? Technology kills jobs too (yay automation), and I don't see how it directly feeds into a budget surplus at all. Are you saying all the cool new advances in computing/the internet were so profitable that Clinton & co. enjoyed nice tax revenues from it? Don't get me wrong, I'm a total libertarian idealist myself, but I don't think it ever works that way. I mean, technology has been consistently improving at an amazing rate since the industrial revolution, like, why did we have a depression in the 30s when the automobile and the radio had just made it big? If the government were to tax people the same but put all the money into research/technology, would we be this super awesome unbeatable economic force?
You must be younger and didn't live through the internet boom. Some of my friends were making well into 80-100/hr as VB programmers (easy language to program in), it was obscene. Today that job pays 50K-60K at best. I remember they were buying condos, new furniture, new cars all in northern NJ which is expensive as hell. It was one of the reasons I got into tech. We had never seen such a boom in our history short of the industrial revolution.
 

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If the Clintons create 20M+ jobs while balancing the budget again, don't drop the ball and get 3000 Americans killed in NYC, don't start two unnecessary wars costing thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars, they can use ATOT PMs as their official email for all I care.


Wasn't it Al Gore that hit it off when he invented the Internet?:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco
 
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waggy

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You must be younger and didn't live through the internet boom. Some of my friends were making well into 80-100/hr as VB programmers (easy language to program in), it was obscene. Today that job pays 50K-60K at best. I remember they were buying condos, new furniture, new cars all in northern NJ which is expensive as hell. It was one of the reasons I got into tech. We had never seen such a boom in our history short of the industrial revolution.

It was a great time to be in computers. I knew people who computer operators making near 30k a year. it was a insane time.

I have no problems with bill clinton when he was President. BUT he didn't make that happen.