Man who installed Hillary email server given immunity by government

[Londo_Jowo]

Things that make you say "Hmmmmmmmm!"

 

[Hugo Drax]

Clinton laid the foundation for the destruction of jobs via the trade agreements he signed etc.

Perot warned and no one listened.

 

[FerrelGeek]

I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.

Wow. Just when I thought I'd seen how far stupid can go on this forum, you show up with this. I won't waste time repeating what others have already said about how abjectly moronic you are.

Are you asking the same thing about trump, who also doesn't use a computer?

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-email-computer-use-texting-2015-7

Let me guess, trump is different.

From my gleaning through stuff on here, I don't see all that many Trump supporters, so why are you bringing this up? I don't want Trump to be president any more than you do. Maybe you and lopri should get a room.

 

[Jhhnn]

Bill Clinton created a bubble, he was just lucky it popped shortly after he left office.

How did he do that, anyway?

He also dropped the ball on Bin Laden, he was just lucky that the attack happened after he left office.

He was trying to kill the guy. It's not like he described the effort as swatting at flies, either.

And Hillary will definitely start wars.

Channeling Nostradamus, huh?

 

[OutHouse]

Did you read the emails? They are all in public domain now. A few of them are classfied retroactively.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hill...-half-collection-now-public/story?id=34851466

I read some of them and they are all the same, e.g. BS stuff. In retrospect she probably should not have done that, but my understanding is that this was a commonplace activities for her priors and other similarly situated officials. As usual Clinton is subject to a different standard, so I am defending her until she is proven guilty.

you did not read the classified email. Those were not released nor will ever be released.

 

[OutHouse]

No they are not "ALL" in the public domain.... The Top Secret and above TS are not.

NO classified emails (confidential, secret, top secret) have been released for public viewing.

 

[Humpy]

....Clinton's uninteresting holes.

LOL

 

[Blanky]

I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.

Either you're right, she is an old grandma who didn't know what she's doing, or she's a liar.

In either case I don't want that kind of person running as POTUS.

I'm partial to the first view, to be honest. I think she just had no idea what the hell was going on and despite signing agreements that speak of criminal prosecution if she did what she actually did she had no idea what she was dealing with. Tech savvy she ain't.

Regardless of whether you believe hillary will be indicted or not (my money on not): this news today is big, and not good for her. This guy already pleaded the 5th, now he has immunity. It could be a fishing expedition or, more likely, he actually has some stuff that builds a case for the FBI because make no mistake: that is the job of police, to make cases. They refer cases to prosecutors. It's how they earn their feathers.

But, hillary has more teflon than don, so I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Bowfinger]

NO classified emails (confidential, secret, top secret) have been released for public viewing.

False. Most have been released, though parts are redacted. Only a few have been completely withheld.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't blame the guy for asserting his rights. Anybody here who says they'd do any different in his place is a liar or a fool. It's called staying out of the lion's den. The only thing you have to do wrong to get eaten is to be there.

I'm all for getting it all sorted out. Whatever wrong there may have been has furnished huge opportunities for speculation, innuendo, character assassination & conspiracy theorizing far beyond what it really deserves.

That's been the story for every trumped up scandal we've endured for the last 7 years so it seems highly unlikely that this will turn out any different than the usual Lucy holding the football.

I mean, why would it? It's the same people running the same play for the same gullible audience across different sets of particulars. I get it that even a blind squirrel finds a few acorns but that assumes there are acorns to find...

 

[ivwshane]

Wow. Just when I thought I'd seen how far stupid can go on this forum, you show up with this. I won't waste time repeating what others have already said about how abjectly moronic you are.



From my gleaning through stuff on here, I don't see all that many Trump supporters, so why are you bringing this up? I don't want Trump to be president any more than you do. Maybe you and lopri should get a room.

And maybe you should get out of your room. Trump threads with trump supporters posting in them is probably the number one topic being discussed on this forum.

 

[Jhhnn]

Either you're right, she is an old grandma who didn't know what she's doing, or she's a liar.

In either case I don't want that kind of person running as POTUS.

I'm partial to the first view, to be honest. I think she just had no idea what the hell was going on and despite signing agreements that speak of criminal prosecution if she did what she actually did she had no idea what she was dealing with. Tech savvy she ain't.

Nice circular reasoning. You first assume what she actually did was illegal when that has not been shown to be the case.

Regardless of whether you believe hillary will be indicted or not (my money on not): this news today is big, and not good for her. This guy already pleaded the 5th, now he has immunity. It could be a fishing expedition or, more likely, he actually has some stuff that builds a case for the FBI because make no mistake: that is the job of police, to make cases. They refer cases to prosecutors. It's how they earn their feathers.

But, hillary has more teflon than don, so I'm not holding my breath.

This news is fodder for Repub bullshit generators more than anything else. You just put out a pile yourself using innuendo as to what the guy can "likely" reveal to the FBI.

It's obvious that's what you want to see. That doesn't mean it's likely true.

 

[Sonikku]

I think Bill gets too much credit. The economic boom was part internet part overextended borrowing and spending, the latter of which is a big part of why the economy and American prosperity imploded and never really came back. He made Free Trade happen which was disastrous for the US and Hillary supports Free Trade on her own as well, until Bernie opposed it and went up in the polls. He signed don't ask don't tell, which led to gays being ejected from the armed forces just for being gay.

To his credit, He was launching missile strikes against Osama Bin Forgotten when the GoP was fighting him every step of the way and chalking it up to a big Monica distraction. The GoP would later say he wasn't fighting terrorism hard enough, when they were basically doing nothing but trying to take him down a peg. I don't fault Bill for that. Economically though, I think he's overrated. His wife seems no better and perhaps some what worse.

 

[Jaskalas]

She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.

And all her employees were copying secret information from secured systems onto the insecure system. Committing all sorts of various crimes and likely conspiracy to do so.

 

[Bowfinger]

And all her employees were copying secret information from secured systems onto the insecure system. Committing all sorts of various crimes and likely conspiracy to do so.

Are you trying to make a joke, or do you really believe that? It is completely false based on all information released so far. There has been no evidence any of Clinton's emails were copied from the classified domain.

 

[Thebobo]

Wasn't it Al Gore that hit it off when he invented the Internet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco

Who the fuck cares anymore. Everyone maybe except you knows he didn't mean he invented it from scratch and thats good enough for me.

Chew on this

But a spirited defense of Gore's statement penned by Internet pioneers Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf (the latter often referred to as the "father of the Internet") in 2000 noted that "Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development" and that "No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution [to the Internet] over a longer period of time":

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

 

[OutHouse]

False. Most have been released, though parts are redacted. Only a few have been completely withheld.

ok fine, let me rephrase to this. The general public will never read the classified contents of the released emails.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Who the fuck cares anymore. Everyone maybe except you knows he didn't mean he invented it from scratch and thats good enough for me.

Chew on this



http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

I have a feeling I know who you are now.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

I mean, Clinton was basically a grandma using her email accounts, set up by tech support, to chit-chat with her friends, families, and underlings. I doubt she knew much about what an e-mail server was until this incident. She probably was told by a tech to use an email address X for gossiping and an email address Y for secret stuff, and followed through like every other grandma did.

I totally want some technically incompetent grandma to run the country. Her competence makes me so confident in her leadership abilities.

 

[werepossum]

I can't speak for Michal but for me Trump is no different, both will lie and say whatever it takes to get elected. I liked Rand well enough - primarily because he more than any of the other candidates wanted to quit policing the world and curb the abuses brought to light by Snowden - but of course that wasn't good enough for the GOP. No matter who gets elected this election cycle we lose.

Exactly, and well said.

Good god, the excuses some people make for Hillary.

Bush was the dumbest president ever, but he fooled Hillary into invading Iraq.

She's just a little old naive grandma, she doesn't know nothing about no newfangled computers, but she is going to be sure we maintain net neutrality.

Is there any weakness which Hillary's sycophants won't sweep under the rug? If Hillary went to your house and kicked your dog, would you say it's because she can predict the future and knew it was going to take a dump on the carpet?

They don't really see them as weaknesses. In their minds, she can do anything she wishes and they will find a way to admire it.

Bill Clinton created a bubble, he was just lucky it popped shortly after he left office. He also dropped the ball on Bin Laden, he was just lucky that the attack happened after he left office. And Hillary will definitely start wars.

But then again, I am talking to the guy who believes slave labor is OK as long as he saves a nickel on lettuce.

I can give Clinton a pass on Bin Laden. Sure, he passed when offered Bin Laden, but Bin Laden was a fairly small fish at that point, and taking him would probably have meant removing the Sudan from our terrorist sponsoring nations list. We knew Bin Laden was responsible for the first Trade Center bombing, but the Sudan was his Afghanistan at the time, so taking Bin Laden probably would have meant removing consequences from the radical Islamist government that had been sponsoring and protecting him. They weren't offering him out of the goodness of their little Islamic hearts, after all, they wanted US-led sanctions removed. Is it really wise to take the architect if it means removing any sanctions against the government that protected him and allowed him to do the planning?

And remember, it was only after 9-11 that we began detaining terrorists without civilian trial; likely neither Clinton nor Bush could have convicted Bin Laden in a civilian court. With the benefit of hindsight, Clinton taking Bin Laden before 9-11 would have been massively helpful, but at the time, one could probably make a good case that it wasn't worth the trade-offs.

 

[Rakehellion]

Clinton's uninteresting holes.

D:

 

[werepossum]

I think Bill gets too much credit. The economic boom was part internet part overextended borrowing and spending, the latter of which is a big part of why the economy and American prosperity imploded and never really came back. He made Free Trade happen which was disastrous for the US and Hillary supports Free Trade on her own as well, until Bernie opposed it and went up in the polls. He signed don't ask don't tell, which led to gays being ejected from the armed forces just for being gay.

To his credit, He was launching missile strikes against Osama Bin Forgotten when the GoP was fighting him every step of the way and chalking it up to a big Monica distraction. The GoP would later say he wasn't fighting terrorism hard enough, when they were basically doing nothing but trying to take him down a peg. I don't fault Bill for that. Economically though, I think he's overrated. His wife seems no better and perhaps some what worse.

Presidents always get too much blame and too much credit, especially economically. Presidents have very little control over the economy. especially compared to foreign policy and trade deals where they have lots of power. As for don't ask don't tell, that was actually an improvement for gays in the military; previously one's commanders could ask if one was gay, leaving the choice to either lie or get kicked out. Under don't ask don't tell, as long as the gay person kept a reasonable amount of decorum, he or she was usually safe from being ejected as one's squad and platoon mates, who know the most about one's personal life, typically don't care as long as one does one's job.

Just as I don't really fault Clinton for not taking Bin Laden when offered, I also don't credit Clinton with seriously trying to kill him. I agree with the people who said it just was an attempted distraction.

 

[Jhhnn]

Just as I don't really fault Clinton for not taking Bin Laden when offered, I also don't credit Clinton with seriously trying to kill him. I agree with the people who said it just was an attempted distraction

So actions don't speak louder than words?

That's particularly true of righties when the words are what they want to hear, apparently.

 

[hal2kilo]

Who the fuck cares anymore. Everyone maybe except you knows he didn't mean he invented it from scratch and thats good enough for me.

Chew on this



http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Facts are liberal.

 

[Guurn]

"I did not have textual relations with that server" Hillary Clinton