Things to consider:
1. This was on a bus and space is going to be tight down the isle so it's going to be tough for 2 or 3 guys to rush in and all tackle him.
2. Without properly tackling him he may still have control of the knife after he goes down opening yourself to getting stabbed.
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Winnipeg is Canada's sexiest city (Also in today's news). It's been quite the news day for us Manitobans.
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Here's an interview with one of the passenger's on the bus - Bus passenger beheaded seat mate, witness says
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meltdown75
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it's really odd. i feel terrible for the victim and the victim's family... but my immediate second thought is... why? why couldn't someone have done something? makes you wonder if there isn't more to this story. one knife-wielding guy vs. 36...
StinkyPinky
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
it's really odd. i feel terrible for the victim and the victim's family... but my immediate second thought is... why? why couldn't someone have done something? makes you wonder if there isn't more to this story. one knife-wielding guy vs. 36...
Not to touch on a sore point, but didn't the hijackers in 9/11 hijack the planes with box cutters? Or did they have bombs as well? Can't recall.
Vic
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
it's really odd. i feel terrible for the victim and the victim's family... but my immediate second thought is... why? why couldn't someone have done something? makes you wonder if there isn't more to this story. one knife-wielding guy vs. 36...
What I've read makes it sound like the whole thing happened so fast that it would have been too late to help the victim anyway, he was already dead or dying fast. I'm just saying... this thread is full of people who weren't there talking about what they think would have happened if they were.
You gun kooks are unreal. How many seconds does it take for a mental retard to shoot every single person on the bus, insteaad of killing only one? You can take your stupid arguements both ways, you see. I'm not even anti-gun, I just loathe stupidity. Let's try to keep this on topic instead of reading the posts of a bunch of raving gun kooks...mmmkay?
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This is what bugs me about this story. While the passengers were leaving the bus, the attacker just kept right on killing the victim, oblivious to the other passengers leaving the bus. This tells me it was not some random killing, and makes me wonder what the actual motivation was for it. Was this a stalking incident? Was he getting even for something this person did to him earlier, like a drug deal gone bad, stole from him, took his girlfriend? Or did he come on to the attacker or was the attacker coming on to him and was spurned? There has to be a reason he focused so much rage and attention on this one person.
If he also wanted to kill others on the bus, he could have stopped attacking the victim when they started fleeing and most likely killed a few others in the process, but that did not happen. He could have started out stabbing the victim a few times, then ran up the isle slashing everyone in his path before the bus even stopped, and the carnage would have been greater still, but that also did not happen.
That being the case, they should have tried to stop the attacker. And if I had sat on the row in front and saw this, I would have turned around, stood on the seat, and my foot would have immediately crushed the attackers face from over the seat rows, most likely saving the victims life and knocking the attacker down on the seat or the ground, and hopefully dislodging the knife from the assailant in the process.
If he also wanted to kill others on the bus, he could have stopped attacking the victim when they started fleeing and most likely killed a few others in the process, but that did not happen. He could have started out stabbing the victim a few times, then ran up the isle slashing everyone in his path before the bus even stopped, and the carnage would have been greater still, but that also did not happen.
That being the case, they should have tried to stop the attacker. And if I had sat on the row in front and saw this, I would have turned around, stood on the seat, and my foot would have immediately crushed the attackers face from over the seat rows, most likely saving the victims life and knocking the attacker down on the seat or the ground, and hopefully dislodging the knife from the assailant in the process.
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From the descriptions of events I've read it just plain sounds like the guy wasn't with it. Okay granted, anyone who chops someone's head off has something wrong with them, but this goes a leap further. The accounts say the guy was calm and methodical. When he finished he walked up to the front of the bus holding the head, displayed it, dropped it, and then tried to get out. I'm no shrink, but that to me seems like the guy wanted to get the alien signals out of the victim's head because they were interfering with his mission for the CIA.
If the rest of the people on the bus weren't cowards they could of tackled the guy and the victim just may of lived.
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Since this thread was derailed by the gun argument, I will tell you this, from experience. A firefighter is no coward, and don't need to hide behind a gun for protection. That's what those shiny fire axes are for. You don't take running into burning houses to rescue survivors lightly. Too bad a fireman was not on that bus.
The sad part is the guy in the seat in front was in the military for 5 years, according to his videotaped statement, and yet he did not stop this. He's the guy who will live with his horrible choice to let the guy get butchered and instead run away, for the rest of his life.
I may have got stabbed a few times in my leg, but I would have literally kicked the attackers head in to stop him, and felt just fine about it after. In critical situations like that, you do what you have to do and then you won't look back with regret later.
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He said the victim was yelling and making noises and fighting for his life when he discovered what was happening. He knew about it almost immediately, so this is wrong.
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I think it's easy for us to make such a judgement not being there. This would have been happeninng quickly and the first thought to come to mind was for the safety of the other passengers, which seems appropriate to me. In that time of reacting many more stabs were possible and likely were enough to have killed the victim.
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