Man did nvidia cheap out on the reference gtx670

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Hmm,my 1244 core oc(max rock solid oc) is now unstable,1215 seems stable atm.wtf is going on here?.mem oc is fine btw.Anyone else having to lower their overclocks?
Sorry to hear that. I guess as long as it stays stable at stock you really technically can't complain. Although if it was me I'd be livid.

Anyone remember that article that came out that said Nvidia was going to recall the 6XX series due to the cards degrading? Sounds like there might be a little truth to that.

I'm glad that I sent mine back when I did.
 

Zanovar

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Sorry to hear that. I guess as long as it stays stable at stock you really technically can't complain. Although if it was me I'd be livid.

Anyone remember that article that came out that said Nvidia was going to recall the 6XX series due to the cards degrading? Sounds like there might be a little truth to that.

I'm glad that I sent mine back when I did.

Aye i agree cant complain about anything above gigabyte stated specs,not experienced this with a card before though.I hope i dont need to drop the clocks any further,time will tell i guess.
 

Arkadrel

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So thats like 4 people that overclocked their 670-680's on these forums and already have signs of degradation.
That was fast....
 

cmdrdredd

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It seems to be isolated to those with over 1200 on the base clock. My cards boost to 1242 with a base clock pretty low.
 

The_Golden_Man

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If these cards degrade very fast when overclocked (In fact I'm surprised there are reports of this at all) it is no wonder Nvidia have done everything they can to lock Voltage adjustments.
 

cmdrdredd

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Yeah but when I see people mention this I see very high base clocks (not boost clocks). My base clock is 1091 on one card and 1065 on another but my boost clock may be 1170 and the card gets 1242. I see peoplw claiming 1350 boost clock which means their base clock is up over 1200. The card will increase voltage with clock speed dynamically and maybe it is increasing too much.
 

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If these cards degrade very fast when overclocked (In fact I'm surprised there are reports of this at all) it is no wonder Nvidia have done everything they can to lock Voltage adjustments.

NV is getting even more strict on Kepler overclocking.

"Nvidia has warned a few partners that over-voltaging cards such as GTX 680 OC will results via warranty void from Nvidia to a partner who overvoltage the card. Nvidia has a series of tests that they ask every overclock loving AIB to pass and you cannot deviate from TDP, noise and power numbers prescribed by Nvidia. This is not surprising, but with these limitations Nvidia is now telling everyone that overclocking your already overclocked GTX 680 over 1100MHz will void the warranty." ~ Fudzilla

That means AIBs will have to bear the full costs of RMAs since NV won't cover them.
 
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Destiny

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it was 1189 boost out of the box and many go to 1229 even. 1250-1300 is about the typical oc range. mine did 1301 for 3D mark but needed 1295 for Heaven when I first got it. but like I said the max oc I could maintain in those benchmarks got lower and lower over the weeks.

Mine are both EVGA reference bought on release day. My temps are completely stable. The highest these cards have seen is 40C under load, usually 35C though.

I think they just couldn't handle much of an overclock. Stock boost clock is 1100 on these two I believe, so I am still getting what I paid for, but not much more than that :D

:eek:,anyone else experiencing this?kinda worrying.


Okay... you guys are making me pee in my pants at work... will run tests once I get home from work on my GTX 670...D:
 

KompuKare

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While one can never dismiss them just being mean, it looks more like NV found something when doing their validations for 28nm.

Still, that's good news since it means after their disastrous bumb quality issues back in the G92 era, Nvidia has learned to do proper validations of their chips. (Which doesn't excuse using such cheap PCBs on card which cost $400+ but at least most AIBs do offer custom PCBs.)
 

The_Golden_Man

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I hope this thread serves as a warning to stay far, far away from the GTX 670 reference cards, and instead go for the custom ones.
 

skipsneeky2

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If these cards degrade very fast when overclocked (In fact I'm surprised there are reports of this at all) it is no wonder Nvidia have done everything they can to lock Voltage adjustments.

Out of the two cards,i used to stable as high as 1238 i believe but recently even 1202 as a high crashed my system,i decided just to run them at stock.

Don't think these cards in sli even warrant needing overclocking for me anyways,not for what i got them for.
 

cmdrdredd

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NV is getting even more strict on Kepler overclocking.

"Nvidia has warned a few partners that over-voltaging cards such as GTX 680 OC will results via warranty void from Nvidia to a partner who overvoltage the card. Nvidia has a series of tests that they ask every overclock loving AIB to pass and you cannot deviate from TDP, noise and power numbers prescribed by Nvidia. This is not surprising, but with these limitations Nvidia is now telling everyone that overclocking your already overclocked GTX 680 over 1100MHz will void the warranty." ~ Fudzilla

That means AIBs will have to bear the full costs of RMAs since NV won't cover them.

So if one makes a custom PCB (this was mentioned before) They are in the clear as it's built to handle increased load.
 

The_Golden_Man

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Out of the two cards,i used to stable as high as 1238 i believe but recently even 1202 as a high crashed my system,i decided just to run them at stock.

Don't think these cards in sli even warrant needing overclocking for me anyways,not for what i got them for.

I use 2x ASUS GTX 670 DC II Non-TOP in SLI. I overclocked them a little bit in the beginning, just to test them, but have since sat them at stock and 100% powertarget with a custom fanprofile. These cards in SLI are so fast that a little overclock make little difference for my use anyway. Also, they rarely reach 100% + powertarget, and when they do, they downclock by a tiny amount. I think it's okay to let them regulate the power, instead of forcing a higher Powertarget.
 

thilanliyan

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GTX 670 was meant to be a midrange, perhaps upper-midrange, part, so do not expect the reference card to be that well-built.

That is no excuse. ANY card, regardless of price bracket should not be "degrading" at stock settings, assuming that is actually what's happening.
 

cmdrdredd

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Yeah, I don't see one report of stock clocks not working, or reasonable overclocks. Do people read the threads anymore or what?
 

toyota

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Nobody hears you. Let the mass hysteria commence.
its not mass hysteria but it is simply some real people reporting real issues with real hardware. I really wish this what not have happened but it has certainly made me wary about getting another Kepler card for the time being.


Yeah, I don't see one report of stock clocks not working, or reasonable overclocks. Do people read the threads anymore or what?
and who the heck decides what a reasonable overclock is? each card can vary wildly so good luck with that. and something you may have forgotten was that I did NOT normally run my card at its max clocks. I only did so a few times for a few short benchmarks yet the gpu still apparently degraded in just 3 weeks.
 
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Homeles

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Yeah, I don't see one report of stock clocks not working, or reasonable overclocks. Do people read the threads anymore or what?
Reasonable overclocks? It's not like you can play with the voltage all you want. Even with Nvidia's ridiculous lockdown on these cards, they're still degrading. I don't see why that'd be a Nvidia specific problem though.
 

thilanliyan

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Overclocked really high only.

If that is the case then I guess it could happen...although most degradation I've heard of (without voltage tweaks) happens after a LONG time, not a couple of weeks or months, and certainly not due to overclocking at stock volts.

How high would the voltage go during an overclock? You mentioned it dynamically sets voltage according to clock speed requested. Isn't the highest on Kepler cards 1.21v or something like that?
 

toyota

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If that is the case then I guess it could happen...although most degradation I've heard of (without voltage tweaks) happens after a LONG time, not a couple of weeks or months, and certainly not due to overclocking at stock volts.

How high would the voltage go during an overclock? You mentioned it dynamically sets voltage according to clock speed requested. Isn't the highest on Kepler cards 1.21v or something like that?
1.175
 

nenforcer

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GTX 670 was meant to be a midrange, perhaps upper-midrange, part, so do not expect the reference card to be that well-built.

http://www.techpowerup.com/162901/Did-NVIDIA-Originally-Intend-to-Call-GTX-680-as-GTX-670-Ti-.html

The GTX 670 is a $400 GPU and you are saying to not expect it to be that well built! I have never in my life paid that much for a GPU and if I did I would expect nothing but absolute top of the line.

The vast majority of people outside of forums like these have never spent more than $300 for a GPU, much less $400.

When you can own a PS3 and a XBOX 360 for the price of one consumer "mid-level" GPU the computer gaming industry isn't really doing itself any favors.

You shouldn't have to spend $1000 for a GTX 690 with a magnesium coating to expect a "high" end video graphics card!

Bring on the GTX 660Ti and the true volume sellers!
 

ShintaiDK

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All silicon chips degrade, GPUs, CPUs, Memory etc. Its just a matter of the speed. The more you overclock the faster they degrade. The higher voltage the faster as well. Overvoltage is actually the fastest way.
 

3DVagabond

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All silicon chips degrade, GPUs, CPUs, Memory etc. Its just a matter of the speed. The more you overclock the faster they degrade. The higher voltage the faster as well. Overvoltage is actually the fastest way.

Everybody dies too. It's premature death that is disturbing. These GPU's are only a few months old. It's too soon for typical degradation to have caused this.