Man Derek Jeter is cocky.

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Well it's not only market size, as you just illustrated. Even when losing, I'm sure that the Yankees (and to a lesser extent the Mets/Red Sox/etc) would have a significantly larger revenue stream than a team like the A's.

Many would argue that the Yankees have a larger market than the Mets, i.e. more fans outside of the NorthEast.

That's exactly my point. They have a national following. Why? Because they've been a good team year in and year out for a long time. Why? Because their owner spends money to put a good product on the field. Not the other way around.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: xospec1alk
I dont think the yankees have a farm system anymore either after they traded the farm guys away for big name players friggin bastards.

and when jeter's contract was up, he didn't re-up for a whole crap load of money, he got decent money iirc. and what about texas paying arod 200 mill or something? thats inflating salaries...not the friggin yankees....

Are you kidding? Jeter's contract gives him an average of almost $19 million/year. The Yankees have some signficant backloaded contracts.

$189 million is not decent money for a player of Jeter's abilities. He's a good player, but not worth $19 million a year. If Jeter is worth $19 million/year, then AROD is easily worth $25 million/year.

What does Nomar make again? (Hint: 10.5)... Now either he's severely underpaid, or Jeter's overpaid. After all, Nomar hits alot better than Jeter.

Jeter also makes more than anyone on the Boston team. Yet NINE Boston players had more RBI's than him. Look up overpaid in the dictionary, and you'll see the Yankees logo under it.

Ummm...I was saying that Jeter is overpaid with his $19 million/year on average contract. Actually, this year Nomar was not a better hitter than Jeter. However, I guess you could say that he was a little better if you factor in defense as STATISTICALLY, Jeter is usually ranked fairly low.

If Garciaparra was a free agent today, he would probably make more than $10.5 million. He signed this contract a while ago.

I meant to reply to xospec... but if you think average equates to a better hitter, then yes Jeter was better (.23) If you equate RBI's as better (which is more important in the 3 Spot), then Nomar is twice as good.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Last time I checked Manny makes more than anyone on the Yankees, so both teams are inflating salaries. Also, the Red Sox are now third in salary, and if it wasn't for the Yankees, everyone would be bitching about the Red Sox trying to buy a championship, because thats what they are trying to do. The Yankees have a good farm system, I don't even think the Red Sox have a farm system anymore.

Who cares if the Red Sox are third in salary? The Yankees spend how much more?

Your last line is a complete lie. The Yankees do not have a good farm system.

Well since you are an absolute genius, here are some links

Evil Empire
Red Sux

If you can read it says the Yankees don't have the best farm system like they did 2000, 2001, but they still have a good farm system.

And I still can't believe idiot red sox fans complain about the yankees salary, considering how much they spend. Someone on ESPN made a good point about the bidding for Contreras stating that even though they lost, the Red Sox did outbid 28 other teams. They try to pull the same tactics the Yankees do, but no one wants to play for the Red Sox.

And here are the latest salaries for mlb, along with the 2006 WS champions,

Go Muts!!!

Please, for the love of god, please please please tell me you are kidding. Those ESPN links prove nothing. The Red Sox may have a worse system than the Yankees, but they're both not good. Where does it say that the Yankees have a good system? Look at those 'prospects' in those lists. Do you even follow minor league prospects? Actually, you could have argued that you would have preferred the Red Sox system at the beginning of the year since Hanley Ramirez was a legitimate top top prospect, as BA did in the beginning.

Now finally, ESPN's salary lists are completely off. For example, LA has Burnitz's and Ventura's FULL salaries in it. The Mets don't and neither do the Yankees.

 

[Ynog]

I would say Jeter is a good player. Great player no. However there are not a lot of great players.
I would rather have an Ozzie Smith than a Derek Jeter, however I would rather have Jeter than
a Jose Reyes or Jose Valentin.

While Jeter gets alot of credit for that play against Oakland, the flip. People forget that if Giambi had slide,
it wouldn't have mattered. That play most notes why Jeter is a good baseball player. Jeter always plays
heads up baseball. Much like Nomar - (threw out the runner at second after the Damon-Jackson collision).

That aside, though I respect him as a good baseball player, though overrated, still good, I find him highly
annoying. Maybe cocky. Its always the good of the team, we been here before, we never count ourselves out.
The same tag lines over and over. And alot of the time I don't find them to be from the heart. Just sort of like,
well I'm the captain of this team, so I'll say something, so here is the same lines heard over and over. But the words
just don't seem to have meaning.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: xospec1alk
I dont think the yankees have a farm system anymore either after they traded the farm guys away for big name players friggin bastards.

and when jeter's contract was up, he didn't re-up for a whole crap load of money, he got decent money iirc. and what about texas paying arod 200 mill or something? thats inflating salaries...not the friggin yankees....

Are you kidding? Jeter's contract gives him an average of almost $19 million/year. The Yankees have some signficant backloaded contracts.

$189 million is not decent money for a player of Jeter's abilities. He's a good player, but not worth $19 million a year. If Jeter is worth $19 million/year, then AROD is easily worth $25 million/year.

What does Nomar make again? (Hint: 10.5)... Now either he's severely underpaid, or Jeter's overpaid. After all, Nomar hits alot better than Jeter.

Jeter also makes more than anyone on the Boston team. Yet NINE Boston players had more RBI's than him. Look up overpaid in the dictionary, and you'll see the Yankees logo under it.

Ummm...I was saying that Jeter is overpaid with his $19 million/year on average contract. Actually, this year Nomar was not a better hitter than Jeter. However, I guess you could say that he was a little better if you factor in defense as STATISTICALLY, Jeter is usually ranked fairly low.

If Garciaparra was a free agent today, he would probably make more than $10.5 million. He signed this contract a while ago.

I meant to reply to xospec... but if you think average equates to a better hitter, then yes Jeter was better (.23) If you equate RBI's as better (which is more important in the 3 Spot), then Nomar is twice as good.

RBIs mean nothing if the people in front of you are getting on base at an amazing rate. Look at their overall production, not just one number like AVG or RBI, of which both are overrated.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Well it's not only market size, as you just illustrated. Even when losing, I'm sure that the Yankees (and to a lesser extent the Mets/Red Sox/etc) would have a significantly larger revenue stream than a team like the A's.

Many would argue that the Yankees have a larger market than the Mets, i.e. more fans outside of the NorthEast.

That's exactly my point. They have a national following. Why? Because they've been a good team year in and year out for a long time. Why? Because their owner spends money to put a good product on the field. Not the other way around.

Perhaps they're fans that grew up in the Yankees market and remained fans, much like how there are always Mets fans around, too.

 

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Last time I checked Manny makes more than anyone on the Yankees, so both teams are inflating salaries. Also, the Red Sox are now third in salary, and if it wasn't for the Yankees, everyone would be bitching about the Red Sox trying to buy a championship, because thats what they are trying to do. The Yankees have a good farm system, I don't even think the Red Sox have a farm system anymore.

Who cares if the Red Sox are third in salary? The Yankees spend how much more?

Your last line is a complete lie. The Yankees do not have a good farm system.

Well since you are an absolute genius, here are some links

Evil Empire
Red Sux

If you can read it says the Yankees don't have the best farm system like they did 2000, 2001, but they still have a good farm system.

And I still can't believe idiot red sox fans complain about the yankees salary, considering how much they spend. Someone on ESPN made a good point about the bidding for Contreras stating that even though they lost, the Red Sox did outbid 28 other teams. They try to pull the same tactics the Yankees do, but no one wants to play for the Red Sox.

And here are the latest salaries for mlb, along with the 2006 WS champions,

Go Muts!!!

Please, for the love of god, please please please tell me you are kidding. Those ESPN links prove nothing. The Red Sox may have a worse system than the Yankees, but they're both not good. Where does it say that the Yankees have a good system? Look at those 'prospects' in those lists. Do you even follow minor league prospects? Actually, you could have argued that you would have preferred the Red Sox system at the beginning of the year since Hanley Ramirez was a legitimate top top prospect, as BA did in the beginning.

Now finally, ESPN's salary lists are completely off. For example, LA has Burnitz's and Ventura's FULL salaries in it. The Mets don't and neither do the Yankees.

Go on google and type in red sox farm system every single page will say how bad the red sox farm system is. Type in yankees farm system, they will all say how good their farm system is. And again you haven't provided any facts to back up your pointless thoughts, go away.

 

[Ynog]

ESPN is a bad place to get Salaries. Because it doesnt' account for players been paid by other team.

The White Sox got money from the Yankees so Colon wouldn't be a Red Sox.
Or the 10 million dollars the Yankees owed Clemens from the two previous years.
Both Colorado and Florida pay for most of Hamptons salary.
ESPN doesn't account for those numbers. They just put the players current salary on the team he is on.
Not to mention alot of trades deal with teams picking up portions of players salaries and for most part
those numbers are hidden from the public, they just tell you, and the XXXX team will pick up some of this guys
salary.

They don't account for alot of that stuff.

While Jeter doesn't make more than Manny, I not going to argue that.


However alot of people don't realize where the money teams make comes from. The New York Yankees make more
money with the Sports Network Television than alot of team make total. Its not just from ticket sales. Its from TV
contracts and local rights they sell. Which is one of the reasons the Yankees are against profit sharing, and alot of
other teams are for. While the Yankees have no problem with sharing the money from national tv contracts (Fox and
the World Series), the local contracts bring in huge revenue for the Yankees, and they don't want to give it to other teams
like the A's. Which for the most part I understand. Why should the A's or Marlins make money off of local tv contracts in
New York. However there needs to be something to even spending up alittle, ie. Luxury Tax.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: xospec1alk
I dont think the yankees have a farm system anymore either after they traded the farm guys away for big name players friggin bastards.

and when jeter's contract was up, he didn't re-up for a whole crap load of money, he got decent money iirc. and what about texas paying arod 200 mill or something? thats inflating salaries...not the friggin yankees....

Are you kidding? Jeter's contract gives him an average of almost $19 million/year. The Yankees have some signficant backloaded contracts.

$189 million is not decent money for a player of Jeter's abilities. He's a good player, but not worth $19 million a year. If Jeter is worth $19 million/year, then AROD is easily worth $25 million/year.

What does Nomar make again? (Hint: 10.5)... Now either he's severely underpaid, or Jeter's overpaid. After all, Nomar hits alot better than Jeter.

Jeter also makes more than anyone on the Boston team. Yet NINE Boston players had more RBI's than him. Look up overpaid in the dictionary, and you'll see the Yankees logo under it.

Ummm...I was saying that Jeter is overpaid with his $19 million/year on average contract. Actually, this year Nomar was not a better hitter than Jeter. However, I guess you could say that he was a little better if you factor in defense as STATISTICALLY, Jeter is usually ranked fairly low.

If Garciaparra was a free agent today, he would probably make more than $10.5 million. He signed this contract a while ago.

I meant to reply to xospec... but if you think average equates to a better hitter, then yes Jeter was better (.23) If you equate RBI's as better (which is more important in the 3 Spot), then Nomar is twice as good.

RBIs mean nothing if the people in front of you are getting on base at an amazing rate. Look at their overall production, not just one number like AVG or RBI, of which both are overrated.

Ok, let's compare them on other things then. Nomar has a higher OPS and SLG. Jeter has a higher avg, but also had 176 less AB's (could he have kept his avg over .301, which was Nomar's avg?). To quote from ESPN:
"2002 Season

The only things that could be considered disappointing about Derek Jeter's 2002 season were that he hit under .300 for the first time in five years and his club failed to make it back to the World Series. Otherwise, it was a typical season for Jeter, who regularly reached base and scored runs, stole bases and hardly ever missed a game."

I'll take Nomar at the plate over Jeter any day (yes, even tonight).

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Last time I checked Manny makes more than anyone on the Yankees, so both teams are inflating salaries. Also, the Red Sox are now third in salary, and if it wasn't for the Yankees, everyone would be bitching about the Red Sox trying to buy a championship, because thats what they are trying to do. The Yankees have a good farm system, I don't even think the Red Sox have a farm system anymore.

Who cares if the Red Sox are third in salary? The Yankees spend how much more?

Your last line is a complete lie. The Yankees do not have a good farm system.

Well since you are an absolute genius, here are some links

Evil Empire
Red Sux

If you can read it says the Yankees don't have the best farm system like they did 2000, 2001, but they still have a good farm system.

And I still can't believe idiot red sox fans complain about the yankees salary, considering how much they spend. Someone on ESPN made a good point about the bidding for Contreras stating that even though they lost, the Red Sox did outbid 28 other teams. They try to pull the same tactics the Yankees do, but no one wants to play for the Red Sox.

And here are the latest salaries for mlb, along with the 2006 WS champions,

Go Muts!!!

Please, for the love of god, please please please tell me you are kidding. Those ESPN links prove nothing. The Red Sox may have a worse system than the Yankees, but they're both not good. Where does it say that the Yankees have a good system? Look at those 'prospects' in those lists. Do you even follow minor league prospects? Actually, you could have argued that you would have preferred the Red Sox system at the beginning of the year since Hanley Ramirez was a legitimate top top prospect, as BA did in the beginning.

Now finally, ESPN's salary lists are completely off. For example, LA has Burnitz's and Ventura's FULL salaries in it. The Mets don't and neither do the Yankees.

Go on google and type in red sox farm system every single page will say how bad the red sox farm system is. Type in yankees farm system, they will all say how good their farm system is. And again you haven't provided any facts to back up your pointless thoughts, go away.

I'm not arguing that the Red Sox have a good farm system because they don't. Neither do the Yankees. You haven't put up any facts. I've actually proven how messed up your using ESPN's salary lists actually are.

Do you even follow the minor leagues at all? I'm not saying that the Red Sox have a better farm system than the Yankees at all. I have no idea what their CURRENT rankings would be like. However, both teams had fairly poor years. Here's a link to BA (the BEST prospects site on the internet) where Jim Callis answers Red Sox prospects questions:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/features/chat112702.html

: jim from new jersey asks:
gun to your head: which do you take--the current sox minor league system or the current yankees minor league system?

A: Jim Callis: Tough one . . . but I'll go with Boston. Josh Boyd will vehemently disagree when he reads this.

Too bad this is not a very recent chat session as things can change dramatically by the end of a season.

 

[Ynog]

Just like to note, that another part of SS is fielding percentage. And while neither is a "SUPER" fielder, Nomar had a better fielding percentage than Jeter, though only by an bit.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: xospec1alk
I dont think the yankees have a farm system anymore either after they traded the farm guys away for big name players friggin bastards.

and when jeter's contract was up, he didn't re-up for a whole crap load of money, he got decent money iirc. and what about texas paying arod 200 mill or something? thats inflating salaries...not the friggin yankees....

Are you kidding? Jeter's contract gives him an average of almost $19 million/year. The Yankees have some signficant backloaded contracts.

$189 million is not decent money for a player of Jeter's abilities. He's a good player, but not worth $19 million a year. If Jeter is worth $19 million/year, then AROD is easily worth $25 million/year.

What does Nomar make again? (Hint: 10.5)... Now either he's severely underpaid, or Jeter's overpaid. After all, Nomar hits alot better than Jeter.

Jeter also makes more than anyone on the Boston team. Yet NINE Boston players had more RBI's than him. Look up overpaid in the dictionary, and you'll see the Yankees logo under it.

Ummm...I was saying that Jeter is overpaid with his $19 million/year on average contract. Actually, this year Nomar was not a better hitter than Jeter. However, I guess you could say that he was a little better if you factor in defense as STATISTICALLY, Jeter is usually ranked fairly low.

If Garciaparra was a free agent today, he would probably make more than $10.5 million. He signed this contract a while ago.

I meant to reply to xospec... but if you think average equates to a better hitter, then yes Jeter was better (.23) If you equate RBI's as better (which is more important in the 3 Spot), then Nomar is twice as good.

RBIs mean nothing if the people in front of you are getting on base at an amazing rate. Look at their overall production, not just one number like AVG or RBI, of which both are overrated.

Ok, let's compare them on other things then. Nomar has a higher OPS and SLG. Jeter has a higher avg, but also had 176 less AB's (could he have kept his avg over .301, which was Nomar's avg?). To quote from ESPN:
"2002 Season

The only things that could be considered disappointing about Derek Jeter's 2002 season were that he hit under .300 for the first time in five years and his club failed to make it back to the World Series. Otherwise, it was a typical season for Jeter, who regularly reached base and scored runs, stole bases and hardly ever missed a game."

I'll take Nomar at the plate over Jeter any day (yes, even tonight).

If you're talking about over their careers, I would take Nomar, too, without a second thought. However, if you're only talking about this season, then I guess it would actualy depend on what you want to look at. Overall, rate based, Jeter had a .299 EQA while Nomar had a .296 EQA (equivalent average - park & league adjusted numbers). That's very close. However, since Jeter was out for a while, Nomar has higher overall numbers like RARP - runs above replacement player. I think in the end I would still easily take Nomar overall, but their batting rate wise was very similiar this year.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Ynog
Just like to note, that another part of SS is fielding percentage. And while neither is a "SUPER" fielder, Nomar had a better fielding percentage than Jeter, though only by an bit.

Actually, fielding percentage is not a good measure of defense. I'm not sure if I agree with all of the defensive statistics out there, but I think defensive ability would depend more on that + the ability to get to other balls. I believe (not sure) that out of the majority of all fielding statistics, Jeter is usually ranked low, Nomar is average, and AROD is high. There was actually a paper out by some college professor where he did a statistical analysis of SS in MLB and he actually had Jeter placed last using his measures. I've never read the paper, so I don't know how accurate I am in stating this.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Ynog
Just like to note, that another part of SS is fielding percentage. And while neither is a "SUPER" fielder, Nomar had a better fielding percentage than Jeter, though only by an bit.

Jeter is not as good a fielder as Nomar...

From ESPN profiles:

Jeter: "Baserunning & Defense

No one will deny that Jeter is a tremendous athlete with a powerful arm, strong fundamentals and terrific instincts. Nonetheless, he lets more balls go through than someone with his tools ought to (as was apparent in the ALDS, for example). Overall, he is a good defensive shortstop, but to deserve a Gold Glove he must improve his footwork and positioning. A terrific baserunner with very good speed, Jeter finished third in the league in steals and had the majors' best stolen-base percentage."


Nomah: "Baserunning & Defense

Garciaparra's quickness and agility translate into superior range afield. Though he led American League shortstops with 25 errors, many were on balls other shortstops never would have reached. His arm strength allows him to make crisp throws even when on the run. He has the speed to steal bases (though he rarely is called upon to do so) and is one of the club's best baserunners."

IMO Nomar has a stronger arm, and just as good or better range...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Ynog
Just like to note, that another part of SS is fielding percentage. And while neither is a "SUPER" fielder, Nomar had a better fielding percentage than Jeter, though only by an bit.

Jeter is not as good a fielder as Nomar...

From ESPN profiles:

Jeter: "Baserunning & Defense

No one will deny that Jeter is a tremendous athlete with a powerful arm, strong fundamentals and terrific instincts. Nonetheless, he lets more balls go through than someone with his tools ought to (as was apparent in the ALDS, for example). Overall, he is a good defensive shortstop, but to deserve a Gold Glove he must improve his footwork and positioning. A terrific baserunner with very good speed, Jeter finished third in the league in steals and had the majors' best stolen-base percentage."


Nomah: "Baserunning & Defense

Garciaparra's quickness and agility translate into superior range afield. Though he led American League shortstops with 25 errors, many were on balls other shortstops never would have reached. His arm strength allows him to make crisp throws even when on the run. He has the speed to steal bases (though he rarely is called upon to do so) and is one of the club's best baserunners."

IMO Nomar has a stronger arm, and just as good or better range...

Yeah Nomar has been ripping the cover off the ball in the Series

 

[Lager]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Ynog
Just like to note, that another part of SS is fielding percentage. And while neither is a "SUPER" fielder, Nomar had a better fielding percentage than Jeter, though only by an bit.

Jeter is not as good a fielder as Nomar...

From ESPN profiles:

Jeter: "Baserunning & Defense

No one will deny that Jeter is a tremendous athlete with a powerful arm, strong fundamentals and terrific instincts. Nonetheless, he lets more balls go through than someone with his tools ought to (as was apparent in the ALDS, for example). Overall, he is a good defensive shortstop, but to deserve a Gold Glove he must improve his footwork and positioning. A terrific baserunner with very good speed, Jeter finished third in the league in steals and had the majors' best stolen-base percentage."


Nomah: "Baserunning & Defense

Garciaparra's quickness and agility translate into superior range afield. Though he led American League shortstops with 25 errors, many were on balls other shortstops never would have reached. His arm strength allows him to make crisp throws even when on the run. He has the speed to steal bases (though he rarely is called upon to do so) and is one of the club's best baserunners."

IMO Nomar has a stronger arm, and just as good or better range...

Yeah Nomar has been ripping the cover off the ball in the Series

Stop ripping on the Red Sox. Your A's got PWNED by Derek Lowe and your star player cried like a bitch.

BITCH!

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Ynog
Just like to note, that another part of SS is fielding percentage. And while neither is a "SUPER" fielder, Nomar had a better fielding percentage than Jeter, though only by an bit.

Jeter is not as good a fielder as Nomar...

From ESPN profiles:

Jeter: "Baserunning & Defense

No one will deny that Jeter is a tremendous athlete with a powerful arm, strong fundamentals and terrific instincts. Nonetheless, he lets more balls go through than someone with his tools ought to (as was apparent in the ALDS, for example). Overall, he is a good defensive shortstop, but to deserve a Gold Glove he must improve his footwork and positioning. A terrific baserunner with very good speed, Jeter finished third in the league in steals and had the majors' best stolen-base percentage."


Nomah: "Baserunning & Defense

Garciaparra's quickness and agility translate into superior range afield. Though he led American League shortstops with 25 errors, many were on balls other shortstops never would have reached. His arm strength allows him to make crisp throws even when on the run. He has the speed to steal bases (though he rarely is called upon to do so) and is one of the club's best baserunners."

IMO Nomar has a stronger arm, and just as good or better range...

Yeah Nomar has been ripping the cover off the ball in the Series

Tejada is wishing his season wasn't over, he would die for a chance to even know what it feels like to slump in the ALCS.

Nomah>Jeter>Rentaria>Cabrera>Berroa>Tejada

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: lager

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Ynog
Just like to note, that another part of SS is fielding percentage. And while neither is a "SUPER" fielder, Nomar had a better fielding percentage than Jeter, though only by an bit.

Jeter is not as good a fielder as Nomar...

From ESPN profiles:

Jeter: "Baserunning & Defense

No one will deny that Jeter is a tremendous athlete with a powerful arm, strong fundamentals and terrific instincts. Nonetheless, he lets more balls go through than someone with his tools ought to (as was apparent in the ALDS, for example). Overall, he is a good defensive shortstop, but to deserve a Gold Glove he must improve his footwork and positioning. A terrific baserunner with very good speed, Jeter finished third in the league in steals and had the majors' best stolen-base percentage."


Nomah: "Baserunning & Defense

Garciaparra's quickness and agility translate into superior range afield. Though he led American League shortstops with 25 errors, many were on balls other shortstops never would have reached. His arm strength allows him to make crisp throws even when on the run. He has the speed to steal bases (though he rarely is called upon to do so) and is one of the club's best baserunners."

IMO Nomar has a stronger arm, and just as good or better range...

Yeah Nomar has been ripping the cover off the ball in the Series

Stop ripping on the Red Sox. Your A's got PWNED by Derek Lowe and your star player cried like a bitch.

BITCH!

I got your bitch right here coldcut! Nomar Blackholepara really hit the hell out of the ball in that Series too!

That said all he has to do is go wild today and tomorrow and everyone will forget how pathetic he has been!

 

[RabidMongoose]

Nomar has actually been fantastic in the postseason - although his performance this postseason will drop his overall numbers significantly. I think before this year, he had almost a 1.400 OPS for the playoffs, but that was in only about 50 at bats.

 

[Fireball77]

go A's