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Man Derek Jeter is cocky.

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Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: lager
Originally posted by: Atvar
I hate how he always pumps his fist and that stupid smirk he gives. Such a cocky player, yet, the highest paid Yankee on the roster. He's lucky he plays for the Yanks. Nobody would give a him a second look if he didn't.

How is Nomar doing?

How is Giambi doing???


IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!

LOL!
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Much rather have him than a bunch of jerk offs on my team like Ramirez and Martinez.

You're just bitter that one of your coaches attacked Martinez and got his arse kicked. How about Nelson beating the crap out of a groundskeeper? Thanks, I'd rather have Martinez. At least he confines his dickiness to everyone once in a while when he gets pissed off.

Plus, Pedro is naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasty. You Yankees are just jealous you can't buy him.
 

fluxquantum

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i heard on the radio last week (Jim Daniels show) that jeter saw britney spears eating in restaurant and tried to talk to her, but her body guard told him to go on, she dont want none.

hah hah:p
 

PoPPeR

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Who was it that said "It's not braging if you can do it"? Well, it's not being cocky if you're honestly good. Jeter is certainly that. That being said I don't really like the Yankee's but give the man his due.
I believe the quote you are referring to is from Dizzy Dean, who said, if you say you're going to go out and do it, and you do it, then it ain't bragging. Dizzy said he and his brother were going to win 2 games apiece in the World Series and then proceeded to do just that

 

SilentZero

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Originally posted by: lager
I hate how he always pumps his fist and that stupid smirk he gives. Such a cocky player, yet, the highest paid Yankee on the roster. :Q He's lucky he plays for the Yanks. Nobody would give a him a second look if he didn't.

You've got to be kidding. No one would give him a second look?? If he left the yankees tomorrow, there would be a dozen teams bidding on him 2 seconds later. He's clutch, pretty darn consistant, and a solid defensive player. I don't think any player is worth such a huge salary, but hell, he gets the job done.

Yes he is cocky, but look at football players. Make a tackle get a INT, score a TD = jump up and down and run around waving your arms and talking smack. Who cares if he pumps his fist and smiles. At least hes not jumping around waving his arms after each double play or RBI.


 

Kenazo

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Originally posted by: Soccer55
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Considering the Yankees have about 20+ WS title and the Redsox has none since 1918, I think is pretty much a given Yankee = better than the Redsox :p

Well if every team spent the same amount as the Yankees to buy their championships that wouldn't be the case.

And I'm not a Red Sox fan, and I don't even care for baseball...

I'm not specifically picking on you, but I hate the "buying championships" argument. There are many teams that spend loads of money on players and have very little success. In particular, no Red Sox fan should have a complaint about the Yankees payroll since the Red Sox have the 5th highest payroll in the majors at $104,873,607 (source: ESPN.com) Also notice that exactly 0 of the 3 teams between the Yankees and the Red Sox made the playoffs (and furthermore, I think only 1 of those teams had a winning record). However, the team with the 5th lowest payroll (Oakland) almost took out Boston in the ALDS. Large payroll != championship.

-Tom



Nice Link. I like how you have a 60million and an 85million team going for the NL title, and these two bloated teams in the AL. It would be a joke if the world series saw Florida ($63 million) take the yankees ($180million).

 

kozman31

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Originally posted by: lager
I hate how he always pumps his fist and that stupid smirk he gives. Such a cocky player, yet, the highest paid Yankee on the roster. :Q He's lucky he plays for the Yanks. Nobody would give a him a second look if he didn't.

Since when did pumping your fist and smiling make people cocky? And what makes you think no body would give him a second look if he didn't play for the Yankee's? He's a good ball player and gets the job done, if he were to leave the Yanks there'd be tons of teams trying to get him. Just cause the Red Socks are losing the series and haven't done sh!t since 1918 doesn't mean you should start name calling. Just get over it, there are plenty more players that are 10x more cocky then he is.
 

whaleskinrug

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Originally posted by: kozman31
Originally posted by: lager
I hate how he always pumps his fist and that stupid smirk he gives. Such a cocky player, yet, the highest paid Yankee on the roster. :Q He's lucky he plays for the Yanks. Nobody would give a him a second look if he didn't.

Since when did pumping your fist and smiling make people cocky? And what makes you think no body would give him a second look if he didn't play for the Yankee's? He's a good ball player and gets the job done, if he were to leave the Yanks there'd be tons of teams trying to get him. Just cause the Red Socks are losing the series and haven't done sh!t since 1918 doesn't mean you should start name calling. Just get over it, there are plenty more players that are 10x more cocky then he is.

Not to mention he is eyecandy :D
 

dman

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I'm a Red Sox fan and I think Jeter is a classy guy. Ok, his recent commercials are cheesey. Anyway, There's a reason he's captain of the team. Pumping fists and being happy are part of winning. nothing wrong with that. Beaning batters and walkng around the bases after hitting a barely over the fence home run--that's not. Manny Ramirez and Pedro could both take some lessons from him.

Comparing SS's: Nomar is a Nice guy. Probably the NICEST player I've ever seen. Still--Given a choice, I wouldn't trade one for the other. They both have their ups and downs. And both are valuable to their team. Too bad Nomar is in a slump right now...
 

SP33Demon

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It's obvious Nomar is the better hitter, although Jeter can cover more ground defensively, Nomar is just as good a fielder (probably b/c he doesn't jump in the air when he throws and cuts the ball off like you're supposed to). It's obvious Jeter is a better leader on the field than Nomar. Comparing the two is like comparing democrats and republicans today, there's not much difference (the same monster with 2 different heads).

The complaint that Jeter is cocky, well maybe you're misinterpreting it for confidence. Pumping your fists and smiling doesn't mean he's cocky, he's just happy. D.Lowe does it after every win or big play, not a big deal.

The notion that teams with the highest payroll in baseball aren't the best is total BS. Yeah, you can take this year as an anomaly but the Yankees have won their division for what, the past 8 years or something straight? I hardly doubt that's a coincidence, especially when u have the best that money can buy. It doesn't take a genious to realize that someone paid 30K at a job is going to work a little less harder than someone paid 100K expected to be the best, especially when you see people on your level being paid twice your salary and you think you're underpaid. AROD is a good example, after getting his contract he blew the f up and is performing at much higher levels than previous years.

How come the A's can't win every time they make it to the playoffs? Once again, a couple of utility men, roleplayers and one superstar will not win a WS for you. You need to go out and buy multiple superstars 9 times out of 10 (i.e. Braves, Yankees etc). With the (pseudo) salary cap things are evening out a little (hence teams like the A's/Twins/Chicago's/KC's rising), but why even have one if teams like the Yankees just ignore it? How much did NY pay in luxury tax this year?? Why not just buy Barry Bonds, Manny, and Vlad for your outfield since money isn't an option (don't be surprised to see it in the future).
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon

The notion that teams with the highest payroll in baseball aren't the best is total BS. Yeah, you can take this year as an anomaly but the Yankees have won their division for what, the past 8 years or something straight? I hardly doubt that's a coincidence, especially when u have the best that money can buy. It doesn't take a genious to realize that someone paid 30K at a job is going to work a little less harder than someone paid 100K expected to be the best, especially when you see people on your level being paid twice your salary and you think you're underpaid. AROD is a good example, after getting his contract he blew the f up and is performing at much higher levels than previous years.

How come the A's can't win every time they make it to the playoffs? Once again, a couple of utility men, roleplayers and one superstar will not win a WS for you. You need to go out and buy multiple superstars 9 times out of 10 (i.e. Braves, Yankees etc). With the (pseudo) salary cap things are evening out a little (hence teams like the A's/Twins/Chicago's/KC's rising), but why even have one if teams like the Yankees just ignore it? How much did NY pay in luxury tax this year?? Why not just buy Barry Bonds, Manny, and Vlad for your outfield since money isn't an option (don't be surprised to see it in the future).
Here's something to keep in mind.

Bought: Clemens, Mussina, Giambi, Matsui.
Home Grown: Derek Jeter, Alfonso Soriano, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettite, Jorge Posada.

Also, it's not the George has more money than alot of the other owners. Sure, he's wealthier than some, but some owners blow him away. It's his willingness to spend that money on his team.
 

AMCRambler

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I just like to say Nomar's name. Garciaparra Garciaparra Garciaparra! Is he hispanic? He looks more Greek to me for some reason.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Here's something to keep in mind.

Bought: Clemens, Mussina, Giambi, Matsui.
Home Grown: Derek Jeter, Alfonso Soriano, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettite, Jorge Posada.

Also, it's not the George has more money than alot of the other owners. Sure, he's wealthier than some, but some owners blow him away. It's his willingness to spend that money on his team.
Matsui has an RBI in every game but one and sold out of Japan. Mussina had the highest K/9 ratio this year aside from Pedro, and pitched well enough to win both games against the Sox. He sold out after the Yankees sent a limo to pick him up in his hick PA hometown and bring him to NY. Giambi blew up last year (this year he just hasn't done well, he's probably playing hurt), and was added to the team after his MVP Season because he sold out (if the A's had him last year, they win it all). Clemens, probably one of the greatest pitchers of all time, and one of my favorites.

On the topic of homegrown, it can all be tied to money as well. If you're top ten college player, you want to go to the Yankees b/c you know you will be paid top dollar and get to play with the highest paid megastars in baseball, who wouldn't want to go to their farm system? I'm only commenting on what I've seen in baseball for the past 15 years, since I'm not an old timer and don't know where the Yank's payrolls have ranked in the past. I can take a wild guess though.

Last but not least, the Yanks are the reason that baseball player's salaries are so inflated. How many times have we seen George raise the ceiling on the highest paid player in baseball (Think Clemens and Giambi). Other teams like Boston now have to give their players a 40% raise because of idiotic salary adjustments attributed to George's "money means nothing" attitude.

This is why football is now the most popular sport, because teams are more even. There is no dominant team in the NFL, it's a different team every year which is what makes it so much fun.

 

bigdog1218

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Last time I checked Manny makes more than anyone on the Yankees, so both teams are inflating salaries. Also, the Red Sox are now third in salary, and if it wasn't for the Yankees, everyone would be bitching about the Red Sox trying to buy a championship, because thats what they are trying to do. The Yankees have a good farm system, I don't even think the Red Sox have a farm system anymore.

Its just gonna be fun to watch the Red Sox when Pedro, Nomar, Lowe, Varitek, Mendoza, all have their contracts ending next year, not to mention walker and Burkett after this year.
 

xospec1alk

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I dont think the yankees have a farm system anymore either after they traded the farm guys away for big name players friggin bastards.

and when jeter's contract was up, he didn't re-up for a whole crap load of money, he got decent money iirc. and what about texas paying arod 200 mill or something? thats inflating salaries...not the friggin yankees....
 

jdogg

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i knew a girl jeter "hit" when he was still in the minors ... boy was she a pig ... just goes to show how for so many women, money makes a man
 

Doggiedog

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It doesn't take a genious to realize that someone paid 30K at a job is going to work a little less harder than someone paid 100K expected to be the best, especially when you see people on your level being paid twice your salary and you think you're underpaid. AROD is a good example, after getting his contract he blew the f up and is performing at much higher levels than previous years.

I don't buy that one bit.

If you were getting paid alot less than your peers, you would work harder to get better so when renegotiation time came around, you'd get a better contract.

How many times have we seen players that suck @ss after signing big long term contracts?
 

royaldank

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Cocky? Cocky is Chipper Jones in a bar signing a baseball "Chipper Jones, Rookie of the Year." It happened as I have seen the ball.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: xospec1alk
I dont think the yankees have a farm system anymore either after they traded the farm guys away for big name players friggin bastards.

and when jeter's contract was up, he didn't re-up for a whole crap load of money, he got decent money iirc. and what about texas paying arod 200 mill or something? thats inflating salaries...not the friggin yankees....

ARod got paid that kind of money because he's the best player in baseball IMO... but yes that also contributes to inflation as well, but at least Texas has a good explanation.

 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
It doesn't take a genious to realize that someone paid 30K at a job is going to work a little less harder than someone paid 100K expected to be the best, especially when you see people on your level being paid twice your salary and you think you're underpaid. AROD is a good example, after getting his contract he blew the f up and is performing at much higher levels than previous years.

I don't buy that one bit.

If you were getting paid alot less than your peers, you would work harder to get better so when renegotiation time came around, you'd get a better contract.

How many times have we seen players that suck @ss after signing big long term contracts?
Is Mussina better now than he was with the O's? Did Giambi put up big numbers after signing (hard to beat his MVP year) with the Yanks? All in all, a big contract is a coronation of sorts that designates them superstar status. Which means theoretically that they're on a level above everyone else (who makes less), or should be regarding their past achievements (they've earned the right to be in that salary range). Hence: salary, although in not every case, is 9 times out of 10 directly correlated to the level of performance expected out of a player and since the Yankees have the highest payroll in baseball it's safe to say that a higher level of performance is expected out of them, and it usually happens (case in point, winning the AL East x amount of years in a row).