Malaysian airlines has lost a 777

[88keys]

Because it's interesting to speculate.

 

[Mai72]

This was a terrorist attack. Just last week China experienced the subway massacre, and this weekend a 777 that was heading to Beijing disappeared killing everyone onboard.

I remember when I flew into Bangkok from China last year. I was the only white man on the plane. The plane was filled with Muslims. The guy sitting next to me kept asking about my religion. Then he kept going to the bathroom. I thought he was going to bring the plane down with a bomb strapped to his body. Horrible thoughts. I know it's not right to think like this, but I just kept thinking back to 9-11. Instead of a bomb he offered me some cookies. He turned out to be a very nice man.

 

[Mixolydian]

I was the only white man on the plane.

/looks at username. :hmm:

 

[Mixolydian]

if you've got a Corvette or Mercedes S class would you be interested in abducting a tricycle??.

To fuck with people's heads.

 

[Dari]

Go back and re-read my post.




Notice that you spoke in absolute terms and I didn't. Furthermore you only cited one example of when responsibility was not declared shortly after which only makes it an exception, not the rule.

As for China being a target; Perhaps, but there doesn't seem to be much evidence to support that idea.


Get some reading comprehension skills and do some research so you will know what you're talking about next time you post.

Calm the fuck down. Play grammar Nazi and let others discuss this incident. As for there not being much evidence to support the Chinese theory, I think 29 bodies and 108 injured would disagree. Also, there were many Uighurs in Afghanistan when I was there. We even shipped some to Guantanamo AFAIK. They have reasons to want to kill Chinese citizens and they certainly have partners in other parts of the Jihadist world.

 

[Mai72]

/looks at username. :hmm:

I just picked the name because I spent time in South Korea.

Also, I was very impatient when I signed up here.

:|

 

[88keys]

This was a terrorist attack. Just last week China experienced the subway massacre, and this weekend a 777 that was heading to Beijing disappeared killing everyone onboard.

I remember when I flew into Bangkok from China last year. I was the only white man on the plane. The plane was filled with Muslims. The guy sitting next to me kept asking about my religion. Then he kept going to the bathroom. I thought he was going to bring the plane down with a bomb strapped to his body. Horrible thoughts. I know it's not right to think like this, but I just kept thinking back to 9-11. Instead of a bomb he offered me some cookies. He turned out to be a very nice man.

Did he just make those cookies?

 

[BUTCH1]

That's true, but not impossible. I know plane crashes have occurred under similar circumstances.

Though it is rarely a single malfunction or error, the odds of the specific chain of events occurring that would cause a Jumbo Jet crash is infinitesimally low, but they do happen.

I feel that an explosion is highly unlikely though. Jet fuel ignites instantaneously and debris would be scattered everywhere (as pointed out earlier). I doubt that an explosion would have left an oil slick behind.

Based on what little evidence there is, I feel that something caused the plane stall abruptly.

A stall at 35K ft would still leave time for the pilot to declare an emergency on the radio, if he knew his/her plane was going into the ocean a "mayday" call would go out so as to help getting assistance there as early as possible, something really drastic had to have happened, possible fuel tank explosion? who knows, it will take a long time to figure this one out if it did indeed disintegrate at high altitude, the dispersal from falling 7 miles up plus the oceans currents once the debris hits the water, they may never find the "black boxes" on this case..

 

[88keys]

Calm the fuck down. Play grammar Nazi and let others discuss this incident. As for there not being much evidence to support the Chinese theory, I think 29 bodies and 108 injured would disagree. Also, there were many Uighurs in Afghanistan when I was there. We even shipped some to Guantanamo AFAIK. They have reasons to want to kill Chinese citizens and they certainly have partners in other parts of the Jihadist world.

A grammar Nazi is someone who corrects someone else's poor grammar. I was just asking you to understand what I wrote before you reply in haste.

Either way, a knife attack in not evidence that Flight 370 fell victim to a terrorist attack, and your post reads like Glenn Beck style paranoia.

 

[Mai72]

Did he just make those cookies?

He bought those cookies when he was in China.

He was doing business there.

 

[BUTCH1]

To fuck with people's heads.

Naw, just land a saucer Ala "Mars attacks" on the White house lawn for 5 minutes then just take off, that would REALLY fuck with peoples heads!..

 

[88keys]

A stall at 35K ft would still leave time for the pilot to declare an emergency on the radio, if he knew his/her plane was going into the ocean a "mayday" call would go out so as to help getting assistance there as early as possible, something really drastic had to have happened, possible fuel tank explosion? who knows, it will take a long time to figure this one out if it did indeed disintegrate at high altitude, the dispersal from falling 7 miles up plus the oceans currents once the debris hits the water, they may never find the "black boxes" on this case..

That still depends on what systems failed on the jets. Other jet explosions have left large footprints of debris that have been easy to spot, so I really doubt that this plane exploded.

The Black Boxes in 99% or more of cases are recoverable and can survive underwater for up to 30 days. So they still have time.

 

[Soundmanred]

A grammar Nazi is someone who corrects someone else's poor grammar. I was just asking you to understand what I wrote before you reply in haste.

Either way, a knife attack in not evidence that Flight 370 fell victim to a terrorist attack, and your post reads like Glenn Beck style paranoia.

We need someone like him on ALL flights to prevent terroristic attacks.
He would stop the plane and calmly talk to the terrorists until they decide not to continue.

 

[Dude111]

The plane just disappeared off radar at 35,000 feet and the pilots couldn't even get off a single mayday call. It probably came apart in the air or started spiraling out of control suddenly.

Or they hit a porthole! (Time doorway) Someone on another site was wondering this!!

Its very strange: It was flight 370 on 37 (March 7th) traveling on a 3700 kilometer trip!!!

I have read one of the relatives of someone on board TRIED TO CALL HER RELATIVE'S MOBILE # AND IT RANG!!!!!! (If it was really @ the bottom of the ocean it wouldnt have worked) -- VERY STRANGE!!

http://therealsingapore.com/content...passenger-managed-call-their-missing-relative

I do hope everyone is ok!!

 

[BUTCH1]

That still depends on what systems failed on the jets. Other jet explosions have left large footprints of debris that have been easy to spot, so I really doubt that this plane exploded.

The Black Boxes in 99% or more of cases are recoverable and can survive underwater for up to 30 days. So they still have time.

Yes, the black boxes from the Air France crash for a couple of years at 12,000ft deep so they are rugged indeed, thing was that plane hit the ocean in one piece and they knew about where it hit in this case it might tun out differently, the box's have proven to survive almost anything BUT you have to locate them, let's all hope they can.

 

[LTC8K6]

The water depth is fairly shallow. In many places it is less than the length of a 772, sometimes much less.

 

[Dari]

A grammar Nazi is someone who corrects someone else's poor grammar. I was just asking you to understand what I wrote before you reply in haste.

Either way, a knife attack in not evidence that Flight 370 fell victim to a terrorist attack, and your post reads like Glenn Beck style paranoia.

Hopefully you don't have to eat those words, but you may. Uighurs have been fighting back in recent years. What started out as syringe attacks against Han Chinese has escalated to armed attacks against police, ramming a car and blowing it up at Tiananmen Square, to butchering 29 civilians in an organized terror attack. They are learning and are stepping up their attacks. If it was an Islamic terror attack it was the shrewdest I've ever heard of since the guy who packed his Irish pregnant girlfriend's luggage with explosives back in the 1980s. Here, they basically exploited a friendly Muslim country to attack their sworn enemy on a flight they knew would be packed with Chinese.

All this may sound far fetched to someone like you but then so was the 9/11 attacks to many. Fortunately, there are people out there who know more than you and there are very few surprises anymore (E.g. Algerian terrorists tried to fly a plane into the Eiffel Tower back in 1994 but ran out of fuel. 9/11 was more successful).

 

[LTC8K6]

That's true, but not impossible. I know plane crashes have occurred under similar circumstances.

Though it is rarely a single malfunction or error, the odds of the specific chain of events occurring that would cause a Jumbo Jet crash is infinitesimally low, but they do happen.

I feel that an explosion is highly unlikely though. Jet fuel ignites instantaneously and debris would be scattered everywhere (as pointed out earlier). I doubt that an explosion would have left an oil slick behind.

Based on what little evidence there is, I feel that something caused the plane stall abruptly.

A 777 has stall and overspeed protection.

Plus, they were only 41 minutes into the flight. No one should have been dozing off or taking a break.

 

[88keys]

So does this mean that a stall or pilot error is impossible?

 

[raildogg]

Hopefully you don't have to eat those words, but you may. Uighurs have been fighting back in recent years. What started out as syringe attacks against Han Chinese has escalated to armed attacks against police, ramming a car and blowing it up at Tiananmen Square, to butchering 29 civilians in an organized terror attack. They are learning and are stepping up their attacks. If it was an Islamic terror attack it was the shrewdest I've ever heard of since the guy who packed his Irish pregnant girlfriend's luggage with explosives back in the 1980s. Here, they basically exploited a friendly Muslim country to attack their sworn enemy on a flight they knew would be packed with Chinese.

All this may sound far fetched to someone like you but then so was the 9/11 attacks to many. Fortunately, there are people out there who know more than you and there are very few surprises anymore (E.g. Algerian terrorists tried to fly a plane into the Eiffel Tower back in 1994 but ran out of fuel. 9/11 was more successful).

Yeah ok. Do you actually know this stuff or do you read quite a bit and think you know about it?

 

[LTC8K6]

So does this mean that a stall is impossible?

No. It means you need more failures or mistakes in the scenario.

Also, in a Boeing, the controls move in accordance with actual surface positions and engine settings.

If the autopilot changes the throttle setting, the throttle handle actually moves as feedback. You can feel and see that the throttle is being changed.

If the autopilot makes a pitch change, the control column moves, just as if the pilot had made the change.

Most of the controls feed back the movements, so you can tell what is going on.

If the co-pilot is pulling back on the column, causing a stall, the pilot's column also moves the same way. It's very obvious what the co-pilot is doing, and what the autopilot is doing.

It would be very difficult for the co-pilot to pull up into a stall, without it being obvious to the pilot.

 

[88keys]

No. It means you need more failures or mistakes in the scenario.

As I said earlier. Almost no jumbo jet crashes can be attributed to one single failure.

Either way, stall protection has been around for a while, but jets still stall.

With all of the implemented redundancy, jumbo jets should never crash. But they do.

And in any case, you can guarantee that more than one thing went wrong.

 

[skyking]

Same old same old....flying to the States in a month's time though. Kinda feeling abit anxious about it...ahah...how have you been??

They still haven't found the plane.....sadly.....Have a high school senior in there.....and another friend who has colleagues in there. sigh.....

I was hoping you had no connection with the passengers on the flight

 

[norseamd]

No they do not claim responsibility "shortly afterward." I've already given an example of this before. Also, China is a new target considering how badly they treat their Muslims and those Muslims have been fighting back.

and i knew it was only a matter of time until china started getting terrorism. even if they are allied with pakistan. even without any problems with the ugyrs extreme islamists would target them just because they are not islamic.

 

[norseamd]

We should all feel better now. Dave is on the case. Howd that minneapolis bridge collapse, dave? Ohhh yeah, it was an earthquake according to you.

palenty and the republicans are more or less at fault. and not just the bridge collapse. they messed up the whole state of minnesota. drop income tax and tax people even higher tan before with fees and drop neccessary expenditure and yet still spend more on corruption and pet projects and see what happens