Malaysian airlines has lost a 777

[Kaido]

How can they possibly tell that files had just recently been deleted? Deleted = not there, therefore how would they know unless they did a recovery process on them?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...five-weeks-before-mh370-vanished-probe-finds/

MH370 investigators seek to retrieve deleted simulator files

SEPANG, Malaysia — The authorities here said Wednesday that they were trying to recover data deleted from a flight simulator custom-built by the pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, whose actions, along with those of his first officer, have fallen under growing scrutiny.

At a news briefing that began after Chinese protesters representing relatives of passengers on the lost flight burst in and demanded information from the Malaysian government, officials said investigators had recruited “local and international expertise” to examine the flight simulator taken from Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s home.

They discovered that its data records were cleared on Feb. 3, more than a month before the March 8 flight that vanished with 239 people onboard after veering off its scheduled route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

“The experts are looking at what are the logs, what has been cleared,” said Tan Sri Khalid Bin Abu Bakar, inspector-general of the police, who declined to comment further.

 

[Kev]

could you see that a program had bean accessed yesterday but notice that there are no logs present? assuming logs are present for every other day prior, it may be reasonable to assume that someone specifically deleted the logs of yesterday's activity.

Or he didn't use it?

 

[Kev]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...five-weeks-before-mh370-vanished-probe-finds/

Sorry this just reeks of nonsense conspiracy theory bs. I mean what do people think, he had to practice flying into the ocean with a flight simulator?

 

[lupi]

If he only deleted files and did not erase, that isn't going to remove the actual data from the drive. Issue then would be if it was overwritten by something else.

 

[nageov3t]

Or he didn't use it?

just thinking off the cuff, not knowing anything about flight simulators...

but it's generally logged when you run a program on your computer somewhere in the application logs. if they can see that the program was executed but no flight sim logs were generated, it would stand to reason that the logs may have been manually deleted (assuming there are corresponding sim logs from every other day that the program was run)

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

If he only deleted files and did not erase, that isn't going to remove the actual data from the drive. Issue then would be if it was overwritten by something else.

i think they should check the recycle bin.

 

[disappoint]

Sorry this just reeks of nonsense conspiracy theory bs. I mean what do people think, he had to practice flying into the ocean with a flight simulator?

The investigators should look into all the theories on message boards and cross them all out as possible scenarios then go with the one no one on the internet thought of as that's most likely what really happened.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

The investigators should look into all the theories on message boards and cross them all out as possible scenarios then go with the one no one on the internet thought of as that's most likely what really happened.

Jeff Gordon was the pilot and it was a fake prank!!


There, now they can eliminate that.

 

[zinfamous]

While this is a worthy news story, I find it sad that it gets far more attention than Putin's current adventure to restore the USSR.

🙁

 

[purbeast0]

my theory is that this is jimmy kimmel's latest internet prank.

 

[BoomerD]

While this is a worthy news story, I find it sad that it gets far more attention than Putin's current adventure to restore the USSR.

🙁

Sadly enough, I don't really care about either event.

The plane disappearance is of greater interest, just because it's a mystery. Planes crash fairly regularly...tragic, but it happens. Planes just don't disappear "into thin air" very often. IT'S A MYSTERY!

I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that Russia wants to regain it's "greatness" that came from the Soviet Union days. Russia is a mere shadow of what the USSR once was.

 

[richardycc]

While this is a worthy news story, I find it sad that it gets far more attention than Putin's current adventure to restore the USSR.

🙁

maybe that's the point, this whole missing plane is a distraction, once the Ukraine issue is over, the plane will magically be found.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...flying-country-wont-say-security-reasons.html

 

[lozina]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...flying-country-wont-say-security-reasons.html

Dang those guys really need to take some training classes on PR

 

[OCGuy]

Dang those guys really need to take some training classes on PR

They are actually doing PR for whatever country or countries the plane flew over without alerting their military.

Pakistan was unbelievably embarrassed after we (U.S) breached their airspace without tipping them off. I can see some military air defense officers being demoted or executed if they missed a giant 777 entering their airspace.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

perhaps the plane did head towards the north track and was detected by one of the countries and was shot down thinking it was a threat and are keeping their mouths shut.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Dang those guys really need to take some training classes on PR

The problem with their muddled messaging is that it does lend credence (perhaps justifiably) to conspiracy theories.

I still think the likeliest outcome is that the plane is in the ocean, and that it was likely steered there, either by the pilot or someone else (since I don't think the actions of changing course prior to the "good night" call, and continuing to change course at multiple waypoints are consistent with an accident).

That being said, if we accept the Keith Ledgerwood theory for purposes of discussion (i.e., that the pilot or someone else simply took the plane and landed it somewhere, for reasons unknown), it seems entirely plausible that whomever took it has been in contact with government of Malaysia and made demands. Under those circumstances, the Malaysian government would presumably be motivated to keep that fact under wraps, so would have to continue to act as though this was a mysterious disappearance. They would also be motivated to continue to investigate what happened regardless of knowing that the plane had landed, in order to find it and identify who took it and why. Much the same would hold true if, say, the hijackers had contacted the CIA, Interpol, or some other governmental entity outside of Malaysia. This is at least a potential explanation for how unclear Malaysia has been in its PR messaging.

 

[slayer202]

The problem with their muddled messaging is that it does lend credence (perhaps justifiably) to conspiracy theories.

I still think the likeliest outcome is that the plane is in the ocean, and that it was likely steered there, either by the pilot or someone else (since I don't think the actions of changing course prior to the "good night" call, and continuing to change course at multiple waypoints are consistent with an accident).

That being said, if we accept the Keith Ledgerwood theory for purposes of discussion (i.e., that the pilot or someone else simply took the plane and landed it somewhere, for reasons unknown), it seems entirely plausible that whomever took it has been in contact with government of Malaysia and made demands. Under those circumstances, the Malaysian government would presumably be motivated to keep that fact under wraps, so would have to continue to act as though this was a mysterious disappearance. They would also be motivated to continue to investigate what happened regardless of knowing that the plane had landed, in order to find it and identify who took it and why. Much the same would hold true if, say, the hijackers had contacted the CIA, Interpol, or some other governmental entity outside of Malaysia. This is at least a potential explanation for how unclear Malaysia has been in its PR messaging.

but if it landed I'd imagine there would be a bit more concrete evidence. flying over in middle of the ocean seems hard to track, but if the plane was near land you gotta imagine someone picked it up, no? and I highly doubt any agency or govt would have kept it quiet this entire time, especially if it was malaysia

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

but if it landed I'd imagine there would be a bit more concrete evidence. flying over in middle of the ocean seems hard to track, but if the plane was near land you gotta imagine someone picked it up, no? and I highly doubt any agency or govt would have kept it quiet this entire time, especially if it was malaysia

You have to read the Ledgerwood theory, which addresses this - http://mh370shadow.com/ A friend who's a pilot says this is entirely plausible. I still doubt it's true but it's certainly possible. The fact that the 7th Fleet has withdrawn from participating in the search could also be taken as evidence that the US government knows that the plane is not in the ocean.

 

[Jay5]

Search deemed an 'international effort' as 26 countries look for plane

26 countrys and yet the plane's still missing.my guess is one of those 26 countrys probably shot the plane down and dont want to admit it

 

[OCGuy]

26 countrys and yet the plane's still missing.my guess is one of those 26 countrys probably shot the plane down and dont want to admit it

There isn't much downside if you shoot down a low flying obviously-hijacked commercial airliner that isn't responding to you. There isn't a country on this planet that has the ability that wouldn't do it.

There is a downside to the plane going through your airspace, or even landing in your territory, without your military catching it.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

There isn't much downside if you shoot down a low flying obviously-hijacked commercial airliner that isn't responding to you. There isn't a country on this planet that has the ability that wouldn't do it.

Exactly. I don't see there being much in the way of political blowback for this.

 

[rudeguy]

26 countrys and yet the plane's still missing.my guess is one of those 26 countrys probably shot the plane down and dont want to admit it

And why would they shoot it down?

Please inform us.

 

[sontakke]

But as the days go by, it becomes more and more difficult to come clean.

 

[Ns1]

And why would they shoot it down?

Please inform us.

So it doesn't fly into a skyscraper?