MADD campaingning to erradicate drunk driving entirely

[Excelsior]

Fvck no.

 

[Kelemvor]

I think it's a great idea. But I'm sure some Rights Dumbasses will say it infringes on something... Even though you have nothing to worry about if you just dont' break the law. The only people that have anything to worry about are the ones who are drunk and would be driving illegally anyway.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
I think it's a great idea. But I'm sure some Rights Dumbasses will say it infringes on something... Even though you have nothing to worry about if you just dont' break the law. The only people that have anything to worry about are the ones who are drunk and would be driving illegally anyway.

That's probably the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

The good ol' "if you're not breaking the law you have nothing to worry about" argument.

PS- If it wasn't for "rights dumbasses", there'd be no Constitution and no America. But it's good to see that brilliant minds founded a country so stable that even complete morons like you can exist in it.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
I think it's a great idea. But I'm sure some Rights Dumbasses will say it infringes on something... Even though you have nothing to worry about if you just dont' break the law. The only people that have anything to worry about are the ones who are drunk and would be driving illegally anyway.

That's probably the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

The good ol' "if you're not breaking the law you have nothing to worry about" argument.

PS- If it wasn't for "rights dumbasses", there'd be no Constitution and no America. But it's good to see that brilliant minds founded a country so stable that even complete morons like you can exist in it and not ****** it up

Fixed.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: SoylentG

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
That might be the stupidest thing I have ever read on OT.

Let's keep this moron going. I bet we can get him to say things far more stupid than that.

I'm sorry. It just seems like you're dmcowen the 2nd. I really didn't think anyone could just be such an ignorant, assumption-making ass.

You've failed to recognize sarsasm, you freaking dolt. You make vague connections with something and act like they're the same god damn thing. Drop the god damn kiddy porn argument, stupid. It didn't work on the first page, and it certainly didn't make you look like anything more than an idiot in the later pages.

You're obviously as mentally deficient as the OP if you don't see the correlation. Both measures assume guilt before innocence and make the entire population pay for the misdeeds of a few.

Saying you'll violate the PRIVACY of someone's computer's contents is different than making someone BREATHE into an instrument.

Sure, the basic concept of "freedom" applies to both of those, but that's hardly an apples-apples comparison.

Only because you support mandatory breathalyzer tests daily and are against invasions of privacy in your personal data. I'm against both, and can see how both are invasions of privacy. You simply have your political blinders on. I heard Little Bo Peep is looking for you.

I'd bet that most people would agree that someone caught with kiddy porn on their computer should be required to have monitoring software. Nobody's contesting you because you're the internet equivalent of the insane homeless person with a sandwich board, screaming nonsense at passersby.

Exactly, those caught with kiddy porn have their priveleges revoked or restricted. Nobody is arguing against that, just as nobody is arguing that people with DUIs should be monitored. What most people in this thread are against is forcing everyone to have their internet access monitored, and everyone having their cars tell them when they can and cannot drive despite a complete lack of evidence that they partake in those illegal activities. The only insane fools here are you and the OP.

And you have the nerve to call someone else a moron.

GTFO my intarnets, fo I shoot yew wif mai twennytoo!

Is that English? I'm sorry, I don't speak dumbfvck.

Bringin' out my damn inner hillbilly with your idiotic dribble...we're all dumber for having read your posts. May god have mercy on your soul.

And may you burn in hell after a fiery drunken crash.

 

[Kilim]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/145842,CST-EDT-edits22a.article

i think they should really push for this technology to be mandatory in all cars like a seat belt and airbags

I don't know, if that was standard equipment on my car, I would feel a need to disable it somehow. Just the principle of the thing, I guess.

 

[iskim86]

MADD is the only activist group that I don't mind.

PETA, feminist vaginamongers, environmentalist... they can all go to hell

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
our government was sold to the highest bidder long ago. The people are powerless. We are now governed by corporations. But as everyone likes to say if you don't like America goto Libya and see how much you like it there!

The power of the government comes from the governed.

Maybe we should introduce a tax rebate for people who vote.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: iskim86
MADD is the only activist group that I don't mind.

PETA, feminist vaginamongers, environmentalist... they can all go to hell

You obviously don't know MADD.

http://www.getmadd.com/

Yes, I know the page is horribly designed. But there is a lot of very damning evidence on that page, much of it referenced.

MADD is every bit as bad as PETA, the feminists and the environuts.

But then, this is what happens to most, if not all activist organizations. They become overrun with fanatics who have no grip on reality.

More:

http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/17

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."---Winston Churchill

Yep, that about sums it up.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I dont care if people drink. I dont drink, but if they wanna do it, let them. But let them kill themselves, not others. They can get as crunk as they want in their own homes. I dont mind checkpoints. If your driving drunk, you should be shot dead on the spot, period.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: iskim86
MADD is the only activist group that I don't mind.

PETA, feminist vaginamongers, environmentalist... they can all go to hell

You obviously don't know MADD.

http://www.getmadd.com/

Yes, I know the page is horribly designed. But there is a lot of very damning evidence on that page, much of it referenced.

MADD is every bit as bad as PETA, the feminists and the environuts.

But then, this is what happens to most, if not all activist organizations. They become overrun with fanatics who have no grip on reality.

More:

http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/17

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."---Winston Churchill

Yep, that about sums it up.

You are not Amused at all are you?

 

[torpid]

Can someone explain to me how the theoretical device/software that can scan network traffic or files for child porn works? Because that sounds like really advanced technology to me, to be able to analyze an image and conclusively determine the age of the photographed subject.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

You are not Amused at all are you?

Not by fanatical activists, no.

By you, yes.

 

[alkemyst]

While I will never advocate driving drunk, I don't think the testing is proper and as a scientist measuring blood through respiration is retarded.

The DD problem is really minor in all the deaths that happen each day, however; it's extremely profitable for MADD and let's them lobby on other issues which is more profit.

Unfortunately most of the victims are those arrested after getting stopped in a road block after having 2-3 drinks.

 

[alkemyst]

I find the most funny part of MADD is how willing people are for giving up the freedom of their fellow americans for just a little safety.

I got caught up in the whole DUI deal for BS reasons. It was easier just to pay it out, than do anything else. It cost me mid 4 figures to walk away even though I knew it was a bad arrest (my soon to be ex had her cop friend wait for me in our driveway, at least she came to pick me up). Still getting ride to and from work for a few months and then to all the required MADD events where you get to hear about oddities of life and have to watch it fold out are costly in stress and time to those not even involved.

I like drinking, I like to dance, I like going out at night and all that most of America drives to and from work and goes home then double latches their door. I have no problem staying out until 4-6am+ if that means I drive home sober, and calling a cab is easy is I have to be home earlier. Most people understand that too that go out and party. They are not going to get falling down drunk then get in their cars (unless to sleep and then you will get a DUI as well just sleeping in the car).

There are always exceptions to everything, people have overdosed on just water. Insanity is out there and most people no better than lemmings or sheep.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Please answer my question.

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
having it my car doesn't really help any if the next guy doesn't have it in his does it?

Why not? It's stopping you from from driving drunk and killing someone.

"Most people mistake their own faults for those of society, and then try to fix society because they don't know how to fix themselves." -- Isaac Asimov

He may or may not answer me. I don't blame him, I've been heckling pretty badly. (I hope he doesn't go Kramer on me)

Where I was going with that whole line of questioning was that it's going to come down to "But it's not me that's the problem. We need to stop other people from driving drunk, not me." That was the inevitable conclusion based on his answer of "It's worthless unless everyone does it." In reality, he's saying "People don't need protection from me, I need protection from them."

But then, why can't everyone else who thinks like him that they're not the problem get that same self exemption from presumed guilt? He's shown his true colors. He's an elitist bastard who thinks everyone else is the problem. So yeah, your quote pretty much nailed it.

No dude my whole argument was for it to be mandatory for all. not just me. If its mandatory for me then there are still going to be thousands killed each year and many thousands more injured. not every opposing view of your own comes down to the other person being elitist in their view.

You don't even understand logic, so I give up. You are hopeless.

no if anything im an extremist. Either have a free for all with drinking n driving or do what is necessary so that it can't happen.

No, you sound like a petty loser.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

You are not Amused at all are you?

Not by fanatical activists, no.

By you, yes.

Go feck off and die, buddy.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

You are not Amused at all are you?

Not by fanatical activists, no.

By you, yes.

Go feck off and die, buddy.

Why thank you, sir!

May you do the same.

 

[Squisher]

I wouldn't mind installing one on my car at my own expense IF it would cause a deep discount in my insurance that would pay off the device in a year or so. Then after that it would all profit for me getting my insurance cheaper.

If MADD was smart they should petition the government to subsidize the installation or the reduction in insurance rates with the installation.

 

[Ruptga]

Sweet idea. Dunno how well the sensors in the steering wheel would work though, they'd just have to wear gloves. But requiring it to be installed in the cars of all offenders, :thumbsup:.

But, do the laws require it to be installed in every car in their household, and who pays for it? It doesn't really bother me if taxpayers pay for it, but that does seem more than a little silly, why not make them pay for it as a kind of fine.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

The power of the government comes from the governed.

Maybe we should introduce a tax rebate for people who vote.

How much of a rebate are we talkin'? Whatever it is, I'm in :thumbsup:

Actually, it could backfire because we'd have people checking a box, any box, just because they want a rebate. It'd be another abused good idea, just like welfare and anything else you can think of...

 

[Journer]

didnt read any posts.. i dont think it will help much...all one would have to do is get someone else to blow into it...and there are ALWAYS ways around it...and it wouldnt be hard either...

 

[IGBT]

..all you's calif.boozers get ready for .040. It's in the works and the lawyers are gona love it.

 

[SampSon]

I don't support this for all automobiles, not in a million years. Having it be tested out/required by court on people who manage multiple/many dwi/dui arrests is a bit more acceptable. Seeing as how these people can't manage to stay out of court for drinking and driving. Similar to ankle bracelets worn by persons on parole/house arrest.

MADD is an organization that started out with fairly good intentions but got overrun with zealots with a completely different goal than originally intended. Their focus has shifted from focusing on extreme cases and repeat offenders to an all out war on drinking in general.
MADD now pushes for higher taxation rates on alcohol, senselessly low BAC level laws that target anyone who consumes a single drop of alcohol, court imposed donations to MADD disguised as therapy or group sessions for the convicted, and many other activities aimed at raking in money for MADD.

MADD is an organization that will fabricate data based on unfounded data and give it creative labels to pass it off as fact. MADD has turned into an organization that pushes prohibition under guise of saving the children, or more recently, saving thoes who don't drink from thoes that do. They have perfected the art of taking their grief out on others and making everyone but them feel guilty. They now have the clout to readily influence/create legislation. A clever coup undertaken by a group who claims to know what's best for you, because of what happened to them.

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
our government was sold to the highest bidder long ago. The people are powerless. We are now governed by corporations. But as everyone likes to say if you don't like America goto Libya and see how much you like it there!

Do you really expect to spew this ignorant, mindless drivel and have anyone take you seriously? Having an inkling of a clue in US economics would help you avoid looking like a raving conspiracy theorist fool. If you're going to try and support points that you express, at least be consistant in your ideology. I know it's hard to make sense when you're completely situational in your talking points, but at least try... for the children.

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

The power of the government comes from the governed.

Maybe we should introduce a tax rebate for people who vote.

How much of a rebate are we talkin'? Whatever it is, I'm in :thumbsup:

Actually, it could backfire because we'd have people checking a box, any box, just because they want a rebate. It'd be another abused good idea, just like welfare and anything else you can think of...

We need people not only voting but being reasonably educated on the issues. They don't need to be ready to go to washington persay, but they have to understand more then "OMG SEX, LIES, CORRUPTION" tv spots.


Anyway the OP - the problem with American's is we want to get 'drunk drivers off the roads' but while people are willing to drink and get behind the wheel of a car (As in they don't or they didn't take proper precaution before drinking) there will be drunks on the road.