M&S Faces Boycott As It Lets Muslim Staff Refuse To Sell Alcohol Or Pork

[Vic]

Or maybe. .. just maybe... M&S likes their muslim customers too, and you're the one applying the duress? To get a private company to not hire Muslims or sell to them even when it wants to?
The rest of your conspiracy theories I don't care about.

 

[HomerJS]

Anyone taking bets for Incorruptables consistency involving pharmacists who refuse to sell birth control that they should get out of the business?

 

[nehalem256]

Or maybe. .. just maybe... M&S likes their muslim customers too, and you're the one applying the duress? To get a private company to not hire Muslims or sell to them even when it wants to?
The rest of your conspiracy theories I don't care about.

Nope its liberals.

Take for instance this paragraph from the article:

Customer Matt Syson wrote: 'If you have Christian workers who wish to refuse the sale of ladies' garments to male homosexuals or men's trousers to lesbians, I do hope you will stand by those workers' religious or personal beliefs.

I wonder what liberals would say about that? Oh wait no I don't we had an entire thread about Colorado Baker who refused to sell a wedding cake to a gay couple. In which liberals were basically gloating about using the government to force the man to sell wedding cakes to gay couples.

In fact I believe they explicitly said if he didn't like he should close his bakery.

Anyone taking bets for Incorruptables consistency involving pharmacists who refuse to sell birth control that they should get out of the business?

Anyone taking bets on liberal consistency involving Christian bakers selling wedding cakes to gay couples?

EDIT: And quite honestly I think the whole Boycott thing is going a bit over the top. But at least I didn't see anyone claiming that having to wait for a new cashier caused them to feel "dehumanized" 😉

 

[Incorruptible]

Anyone taking bets for Incorruptables consistency involving pharmacists who refuse to sell birth control that they should get out of the business?

homer once again shows how much of a moron he is. You're against Christians but for this. Gotta love the hypocrisy you pathetic excuse for a human being.

Go make some more fake racist outrage threads where you get smacked down all over P&N.

 

[Vic]

Nope its liberals.

Take for instance this paragraph from the article:


I wonder what liberals would say about that? Oh wait no I don't we had an entire thread about Colorado Baker who refused to sell a wedding cake to a gay couple. In which liberals were basically gloating about using the government to force the man to sell wedding cakes to gay couples.

In fact I believe they explicitly said if he didn't like he should close his bakery.



Anyone taking bets on liberal consistency involving Christian bakers selling wedding cakes to gay couples?

EDIT: And quite honestly I think the whole Boycott thing is going a bit over the top. But at least I didn't see anyone claiming that having to wait for a new cashier caused them to feel "dehumanized" 😉

The article also says that M&S company policy is to ensure that the employee would never have to be in the position of having to deny service to a customer and that that policy was not adhered to in this case.
The same policy would likely also apply to any Christian who believes he shouldn't have to serve gays.
M&S is a business trying to please all of its customers, which isn't always easy. The Colorado baker on the other hand told one of his customers "We don't serve your kind here. "
If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

 

[thraashman]

homer once again shows how much of a moron he is. You're against Christians but for this. Gotta love the hypocrisy you pathetic excuse for a human being.

Resorting to insults because you got nothing.

I've decided to make a game of refuting Incorruptible's posts with other of his same posts. It's remarkably easy to find hypocritical posts from this cartoon character.

 

[peonyu]

Exactly....where does she live? The middle East?

It is England for goodness sakes!!! A European Country whereby pork (Christmas ham for example) and alcohol are COMMON sales during Christmas times.

I have seen Muslims sell alcohol before at corner stores. If they have adapted for Western society then why not her? She some special sort of woman?

A special woman ? Yes, why yes she is! She is Super-Muslim. And her only weaknesses are Pork, Alcohol and being asked to tolerate other cultures/religions even though she chose to live in someone else's country!

 

[Vic]

You do understand that anti - immigration is not a small government policy, right?

 

[Geosurface]

Defending the borders and preserving the culture/posterity of a nation is THE most fundamental role of government, so governments both small and large should do it.

 

[Vic]

Defending the borders and preserving the culture/posterity of a nation is THE most fundamental role of government, so governments both small and large should do it.

It's not possible for a government to perform that function and remain small.

 

[Geosurface]

It's not possible for a government to perform that function and remain small.

Then sign me up for a huge government I guess.

 

[jman19]

I've decided to make a game of refuting Incorruptible's posts with other of his same posts. It's remarkably easy to find hypocritical posts from this cartoon character.

Ha! After a while though it'll get boring playing a game you can't lose 😉

 

[Vic]

Then sign me up for a huge government I guess.

That's what you get when you want government to tell people where they can or cannot live, or where they can or cannot work, or what they can or cannot believe. Socialism is bad, but fascism is down right evil.

 

[shadow9d9]

nope its liberals.

Take for instance this paragraph from the article:


I wonder what liberals would say about that? Oh wait no i don't we had an entire thread about colorado baker who refused to sell a wedding cake to a gay couple. In which liberals were basically gloating about using the government to force the man to sell wedding cakes to gay couples.

In fact i believe they explicitly said if he didn't like he should close his bakery.



Anyone taking bets on liberal consistency involving christian bakers selling wedding cakes to gay couples?

Edit: And quite honestly i think the whole boycott thing is going a bit over the top. But at least i didn't see anyone claiming that having to wait for a new cashier caused them to feel "dehumanized" 😉

liiiiiibbbeeeeerraaaalllls!

 

[nehalem256]

That's what you get when you want government to tell people where they can or cannot live, or where they can or cannot work, or what they can or cannot believe. Socialism is bad, but fascism is down right evil.

How is that any different that liberalism in the US, which says that if a guy who owns a bakery doesn't want to bake wedding cakes for same-sex weddings he should shut down?

The article also says that M&S company policy is to ensure that the employee would never have to be in the position of having to deny service to a customer and that that policy was not adhered to in this case.
The same policy would likely also apply to any Christian who believes he shouldn't have to serve gays.
M&S is a business trying to please all of its customers, which isn't always easy. The Colorado baker on the other hand told one of his customers "We don't serve your kind here. "
If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

The only real difference is that M&S is a large Megacorporation akin to Walmart, whereas the bakery was a small business. And so the baker could not practically point to another employee that could serve.

Also you are grossly exaggerating what the baker said. He only objected to serving wedding cakes for what he found morally objectionable "marriages.

 

[Vic]

And 20-30 years ago, some bakers probably found it "morally objectionable" to serve wedding cakes for black and interracial marriages too.
It's still the same thing: "We don't serve your kind here." The irony too is that it

 

[nehalem256]

And 20-30 years ago, some bakers probably found it "morally objectionable" to serve wedding cakes for black and interracial marriages too.

Please show evidence of anybody thinking that black people shouldn't be allowed to marry each other?

It's still the same thing: "We don't serve your kind here." The irony too is that it

Except that the baker explicitly said he would serve them anything other than wedding cake.

 

[Incorruptible]

The article also says that M&S company policy is to ensure that the employee would never have to be in the position of having to deny service to a customer and that that policy was not adhered to in this case.
The same policy would likely also apply to any Christian who believes he shouldn't have to serve gays.
M&S is a business trying to please all of its customers, which isn't always easy. The Colorado baker on the other hand told one of his customers "We don't serve your kind here. "
If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

How can they please all of their customers when many are furious over what happened? Religion shouldn't be involved at all and they should have made this more clear.

 

[Vic]

How can they please all of their customers when many are furious over what happened? Religion shouldn't be involved at all and they should have made this more clear.

Keep going, your intellectual dishonesty amuses me.

 

[Vic]

Please show evidence of anybody thinking that black people shouldn't be allowed to marry each other?



Except that the baker explicitly said he would serve them anything other than wedding cake.

Jim Crow laws prohibited blacks from shopping at certain businesses. So there were in fact "whites only" bakeries, for example.

The problem with your baker analogy is that it isn't analogous. Now if M&S refused to sell alcohol to Christians, but still sold it to everyone else, then you might have an analogy.

 

[Vic]

Ughh.. tapa talk is cutting off my posts. . How dare it deny me my constitutionally protected right to free speech! !

 

[Incorruptible]

Keep going, your intellectual dishonesty amuses me.

What? You're missing the part where customers threatened a boycott and the stores apologized for what happened.

 

[Vic]

What? You're missing the part where customers threatened a boycott and the stores apologized for what happened.

The boycott threat was empty. The store apologized because its own corporate policy was not adhered to in this case.

 

[Nebor]

Then sign me up for a huge government I guess.

At some point I too made the switch from some sort of libertarian to admitting that I like the idea of a big, powerful central government to force social change, make war, defend the borders, etc.

 

[nehalem256]

Jim Crow laws prohibited blacks from shopping at certain businesses. So there were in fact "whites only" bakeries, for example.

So you don't understand the difference between a "white only" bakery. And a bakery that serves gays with the exception of wedding cakes?

The problem with your baker analogy is that it isn't analogous. Now if M&S refused to sell alcohol to Christians, but still sold it to everyone else, then you might have an analogy.

Its basically the same. In both cases we have someone who refuses to sell a small selection of products based on religious conviction. The only difference is that M&S as a megacorporation as plenty of employees to cover for the employee with said convictions. Whereas in the case of the small business there is effectively no difference between the employee and the business.