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BarneyFife

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Unfortunately, it seems that poor people love to have babies early and multiple times no matter if its the US or some remote village in South America. Don't understand the reasoning behind having no money and bringing more people into the world.

I can't think of a solution to the problem. You can't force people to do anything. Throwing more money is not going to work, neither is getting rid of welfare because then they'll be coming into my quiet neighborhood and killing me for food. Its a double edged sword.
 
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Unfortunately, it seems that poor people love to have babies early and multiple times no matter if its the US or some remote village in South America. Don't understand the reasoning behind having no money and bringing more people into the world.

What we need is for someone to invent a drug that could be put in the water that, in minute doses, causes sterility that can only be reversed with a government-controlled drug.
 

rpanic

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What we need is for someone to invent a drug that could be put in the water that, in minute doses, causes sterility that can only be reversed with a government-controlled drug.

Could bioengineer crops with a birth control component; give it away for free affecting the poorest most. People that are starving would not have more babies until they could provide for themselves.
 

seemingly random

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What we need is for someone to invent a drug that could be put in the water that, in minute doses, causes sterility that can only be reversed with a government-controlled drug.
You sound like a lovely person. Trees must shiver and vegetation must wither when you pass by.
 

werepossum

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What we need is for someone to invent a drug that could be put in the water that, in minute doses, causes sterility that can only be reversed with a government-controlled drug.

Good lord, you'd trust the government with that kind of power? Considering the Democrats are in power now and are by far the higher percentage in government (not too surprising as Republicans usually campaign on making government smaller even if they never do) why would you assume government would produce less inner city people who traditionally vote Democrat? I'm betting the government-controlled antidote would be in greatest quantities in places like Detroit, as Democrats love diversity of skin tone as much as they hate diversity of thought.

I'm willing to accept for the sake of argument that the average adult IQ in Africa is 70. However blacks in America have better nutrition and much more stimulus growing up. If memory serves, studies in the USA have found little or no difference in IQ between blacks and whites in stable middle or upper class families. Studies in England in the early twentieth century found huge differences in intelligence and learning ability among the very poorest, which were largely erased by nutrition and safe housing programs. (Keeping out dampness and providing sufficient warmth and cleanliness were particularly important.) Studies on blacks in Africa don't by themselves prove any genetic predisposition for low IQ among blacks, you'd have to also correct for nutrition, culture, and environment to give a reasonable expectation of genetic significance.
 

Craig234

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Oh, I wholeheartedly agree with you about having an entitlement mentality and the failure of the people to take responsibility for themselves, but what the heck can we do about it other than to let the people starve? If they start to starve will they storm the suburbs?

I think the first thing we need to do is to focus on population control. Ending the cycle of impoverished people birthing children they cannot afford to take care of nor know how to raise properly who in turn will become impoverished themselves has to be a top priority. If we could prevent the poor from having children eventually much of the underclass would just die of old age without having reproduced themselves. With a smaller population of poor people we'll be better able to focus resources to help them.

That solution is extremely politically incorrect, however. How dare the government or society tell poor people not to have children? Having children is a God-given right and all children are a blessing from God! It's black genooocide! They're trying to kill our bay-yay-yay-bees!

Even the woman who wanted to pay crack addicts to get sterilized so that they wouldn't have litters of retarded crack babies that the rest of society must pay for was heavily demonized.

I feel dirty replying to you at all, but it's to make a point: you are oblivious to the corporate-friendly policies that CAUSE poverty, reduce opportunity for the poor, ensure a pool of cheap labor for their needs.

You are happy to hate the poor and push all kinds of nutty attacks on them - starvation not blocked by the wall where your morality would be if you had any, but only by worries of attacks on the suburbs.

But not a peep about what you are so ignorant of on the policies on the other side of the economy that would alleviate poverty. You are an ignorant, immoral, disgusting menace.
 
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I feel dirty replying to you at all, but it's to make a point: you are oblivious to the corporate-friendly policies that CAUSE poverty, reduce opportunity for the poor, ensure a pool of cheap labor for their needs.

What specifically are you referring to? I am an outspoken opponent of foreign outsourcing, work visas, and mass immigration (which puts downward pressure on wages for the poor, reduces opportunities for them, and increases social welfare costs). You think I'm an advocate of global labor arbitrage and cheap labor?

You are happy to hate the poor and push all kinds of nutty attacks on them - starvation not blocked by the wall where your morality would be if you had any, but only by worries of attacks on the suburbs.

I suggest that you turn down your sensitivity meter. The overall context of this forum is such that a comment like that was intended to be taken in jest. Of course I don't want to see the poor starve.

But not a peep about what you are so ignorant of on the policies on the other side of the economy that would alleviate poverty. You are an ignorant, immoral, disgusting menace.

Why don't you enlighten us and tell us what your solution is to the problem? Please enlighten us with your brilliance and wisdom instead of merely claiming that I'm "ignorant" about "policies on the other side of the economy".
 

lothar

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Clearly, lack of funding isn't the issue. Neither are bad teachers.
Lack of proper parenting has everything to do with it.

I don't want to hear about genetically inherited low iq. I've said this before but my co-workers from Africa are complete opposites from the "African Americans". They are highly educated and they've always told me how important it was to get an education in Africa. They always tell me that they do not want to be associated with blacks from the US and that they have every opportunity and they don't take advantage of it.

I am one of them.
The only "African-Americans" I have on my phone are the well-educated professionals (doctors, pharmacists, nurses, etc..) which are few and far in between who worked hard to get where they are and don't give excuses for crap or blame someone else for their own predicament.
Outside that group, there's nothing else.