Lost 4x13 and 4x14

[Spineshank]

Im pretty sure i called it in some thread last year but all last night at the end i was screaming Locke for the coffin scene and i was right. Even my roommate was like wtf.

 

[oddyager]

Originally posted by: fr

Originally posted by: flashbacck

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Of course I sat and watched it. I guess I still want questions answered from the first 3 seasons...

Well there ARE two more seasons left. They can't answer all these questions.
But here's a snippet from an interview regarding past season questions and dropped clues:

What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?
LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living ? or, I guess, slowly decomposing ? proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, ''That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this.''

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Hmm. They better not do something dumb like the skeletons are the bodies of Jake and Kate in the future.

I dunno why I just thought of that. Probably all this time travel stuff they're using now.

Can someone refresh my memory about the skeletons? I totally do not remember that.

I *think* it was that episode in Season 1 where Jack and co. decided to move deeper into the island and found an area with a cascade.

 

[Caveman]

Guessing that Widmore and Richard may be original members of the Black Rock crew... Just have that feeling...

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Im pretty sure i called it in some thread last year but all last night at the end i was screaming Locke for the coffin scene and i was right. Even my roommate was like wtf.

I must have completely missed it. How do we know Lock is Jeremy Bentham and therefore he is the one in the coffin????

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Im pretty sure i called it in some thread last year but all last night at the end i was screaming Locke for the coffin scene and i was right. Even my roommate was like wtf.

I must have completely missed it. How do we know Lock is Jeremy Bentham and therefore he is the one in the coffin????

Did you see the end of the season finale last night?

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Im pretty sure i called it in some thread last year but all last night at the end i was screaming Locke for the coffin scene and i was right. Even my roommate was like wtf.

I must have completely missed it. How do we know Lock is Jeremy Bentham and therefore he is the one in the coffin????

Did you see the end of the season finale last night?

He must have not seen the ending.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: Caveman
Guessing that Widmore and Richard may be original members of the Black Rock crew... Just have that feeling...

I agree. They have to come back to the Black Rock storyline eventually. I think it is possible that Charlotte and Richard were on Black Rock. Not Widmore though. I bet that they do a flashback of Charlotte to teh 70s or something and it shows that she hasn't aged.

Oh well .... one thing is certain. Guessing is futile and time will tell all.

 

[Raiden256]

I'm wondering... Is it possible that the Black Rock lies in the location it does now because the Island appeared underneath it during a previous move?

 

[tefleming]

Locke comes back to life when they return to the island.

He's one the one who said it's a place where miracles happen...

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Im pretty sure i called it in some thread last year but all last night at the end i was screaming Locke for the coffin scene and i was right. Even my roommate was like wtf.

I must have completely missed it. How do we know Lock is Jeremy Bentham and therefore he is the one in the coffin????

Did you see the end of the season finale last night?

Oh, crap. I must have thought it was over when the castaways landed on the beach.
Thankfully, I recorded it and just watched the final scene!
Thanks.

 

[*kjm]

Does anyone remember the part were Whitmore told Sun the last time I saw your father was the last time we played???? or something along that line.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: *kjm
Does anyone remember the part were Whitmore told Sun the last time I saw your father was the last time we played???? or something along that line.

Played golf, I thought.

 

[Homerboy]

Entire episode was "meh" at best. hardly the season cliff-hanger that I had hoped for and come to know from Lost. Much of the episode was mindless action (the fire-fight at the helicopter? come on.) There were a few borderline shocking moments I guess but I have to say I was disappointed.

I have to say Sawyer just popping up on the beach smack dab in front of Juliette (ey, baby, i took my shirt off because it was too hard to swim in it and yet i left these super tight jeans on... that was just weird) was laughable... but I guess better than having him end up on some far away corner of the island. I think he MAY have heard the boat explode too while he was swimming wouldn't he have?

Still so many question. Still so very very good.

 

[queenrobot]

It was a great ending to a great season. I cried.

 

[jonks]

2 weeks ago Jack yelled at Kate when she refused to tell him about the favor she was doing for Sawyer "He chose to stay behind!" Um, dickwad, he "chose" to lighten the chopper so you could make it to the boat. He didn't choose to stay behind, he sacrificed himself so you and Kate could go home.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: mattlear
Can't tell if someone just edited wikipedia, but

Jeremy Bentham Wikipedia entry

Check out the first sentence under "Life". Also, on the right, check out influencers...

For comparison's sake:
John Locke Wikipedia entry

I wonder how the two philosophers are related in real-life... what common thread they have for the LOST writers to join them into a single character...

-Matt

No one seems to have taken notice of my previous post but wikipedia is lacking in one area. HE WAS ALSO AN ADVOCATE OF BIRTH CONTROL! No one sees the Lsot tie in?

were does it say that?

 

[BRObedoza]

Alternate Endings for season finale

damn, i think either one of them would have been more of a mind fuck than Locke

 

[blackdogdeek]

does anyone remember the things jeremy bentham supposedly told the oceanic 6?

i remember that jack says that jeremy bentham told him that when they left the island that things started to get really bad but i don't remember what he said after that. did bentham say they had to return to the island?

also, is sayid's reference the only other reference to bentham the only other reference in the finale? i can't remember. i remember kate mentions his name with jack outside the airport but nothing more.

 

[nageov3t]

And why Ben couldn't return to the island afterward. I think after he moved it, is when he then appeared in the desert in that one scene.

Ben might not know where the island was moved to, and it seems like there's no way to get back without following that specific bearing unless the island wants you back.

 

[blackdogdeek]

Originally posted by: loki8481

And why Ben couldn't return to the island afterward. I think after he moved it, is when he then appeared in the desert in that one scene.

Ben might not know where the island was moved to, and it seems like there's no way to get back without following that specific bearing unless the island wants you back.

i'm starting to think that the island isn't really somewhere but some "when". the orchid orientation video talks about moving the bunny forward in 4-space which iirc means 3-space plus the time dimension and they specifically say they will attempt to move the bunny 100 milliseconds into the future.

now let's say that the island was just moved forward in time. it would appear to not be where it originally was until such time that we "catch up" to the point in 4-space where the island exists.

 

[jonks]

Why'd they move the island again? I thought it was initially the threat from the freighter, but once they dealt with the mercs, why the big rush to move it?

 

[Ns1]

A+++++++++++

 

[CptObvious]

I thought the finale was OK, but thinking about season 4, the series is ripe for wrapping up after one more season, not two. It seems as though the writers are just stretching it out as best they can.

On the other hand, the dialogue and editing is still top notch. I'd like to see Daniel Faraday and Miles Straume have their own episodes next season (the episode with Faraday and Desmond about the constant was my favorite this season).

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: CptObvious
I thought the finale was OK, but thinking about season 4, the series is ripe for wrapping up after one more season, not two. It seems as though the writers are just stretching it out as best they can.

On the other hand, the dialogue and editing is still top notch. I'd like to see Daniel Faraday and Miles Straume have their own episodes next season (the episode with Faraday and Desmond about the constant was my favorite this season).

meh, at least we have a concrete timeline - we'll see how this plays out

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Why'd they move the island again? I thought it was initially the threat from the freighter, but once they dealt with the mercs, why the big rush to move it?

I think b/c the island had been found and Widmore would send more bad guys to go after Ben, the need to move the island.