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[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: habib89

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: sash1

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: Smartazz
Did anybody notice that every time somebody on the island fixes their problem(s) they die?

I was just going to post that!

but the problem was, Eko didn't solve/fix his problems. he did not apologize to his brother, rather, he said he was proud of it. because of this the smoke monster attacked and killed him.

Maybe his problem was the guilt he bore for those acts, thus being haunted by their dead image.

At the end, he had shed that guilt.

Fern

I agree with that.. his problem was that he was holding everythign in.. that's why he was building the church.. cause he owed it to his brother, but after talking to his "brother" he repented essentially...

and i totally got the jesus vibe.. i was just waiting for a burning bush...

Maybe not a burning bush. . .but what was the significance of the big dead tree he stood under in the one scene shortly before the dust cloud monster wailed on him? A big dead tree in the middle of a lush green virtual "garden of eden?" Merely a foreshadowing of death or something more significant?

Also, I think it is pretty clear that the dust cloud monster is some kind of telepathic doppleganger/shape shifter with the ability to read people's thoughts. I think the dust cloud monster was manifesting as Eko's brother as well as the illusions that other people have been seeing while "alone" at various places on the island in previous episodes.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
That sucks about Eko. They don't have many young strong guys left now.

By the way, when those two new people went on the expedition I was like "uhoh, I that new guy is gonna get it. they don't show him and all of a sudden his girlfriend wants to go on an adventure. the last "new guy" got himself blown up with dynamite".

So is the lady a good Other and Ben is a bad other? Are they both good others...are they both bad others? Is she bad and Ben is actually good?

Does anybody else think Juliette plays her role well? You really want to like and trust her b/c she seems so sweet and honest, yet very pretty like a lady next door.

I doubt juliette and ben are planning something together. There was a scene were ben was giving juliette a hard time about showing jack his x-rays. Jack wasn't part of that...if it was an act, that would have been unnecessary.

 

[Smartazz]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: TheNinja
That sucks about Eko. They don't have many young strong guys left now.

By the way, when those two new people went on the expedition I was like "uhoh, I that new guy is gonna get it. they don't show him and all of a sudden his girlfriend wants to go on an adventure. the last "new guy" got himself blown up with dynamite".

So is the lady a good Other and Ben is a bad other? Are they both good others...are they both bad others? Is she bad and Ben is actually good?

Does anybody else think Juliette plays her role well? You really want to like and trust her b/c she seems so sweet and honest, yet very pretty like a lady next door.

I doubt juliette and ben are planning something together. There was a scene were ben was giving juliette a hard time about showing jack his x-rays. Jack wasn't part of that...if it was an act, that would have been unnecessary.

Good point. I doubt Jack could kill Ben though, he isn't that kind of person, then again, this is lost.

 

[wyvrn]

Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Who even watches live TV anymore. If you have a PVR or TIVO this shouldnt even be an issue. If you don't, get with the program and get one...heck, even your computer should be able to do this.
Just start watching it a half later and you won't catch up with the commercials.

I have an HTPC, but it's not HD capable yet. I watch my favorite shows in realtime until I upgrade my HTPC. I have the hdd, now need a good capture card to put in it.

 

[wyvrn]

Originally posted by: Brackis
THE NEW GIRL WHO GOES ON THE HATCH TRIP IS FVCKIN HAWT

What's the chances that she is wearing cutoff jeans on the damn plane? Not that I am complaining.

 

[Accipiter22]

OK, are we CERTAIN this isn't purgatory??? Every time a character makes peace with themselves and finds meaning in their life, they die right afterwards...Maybe this is their lives flashing before their eyes as they're crashing on the plane?

 

[Smartazz]

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
OK, are we CERTAIN this isn't purgatory??? Every time a character makes peace with themselves and finds meaning in their life, they die right afterwards...Maybe this is their lives flashing before their eyes as they're crashing on the plane?

The writers said the island wasn't purgatory, which might not mean anything. Remember that the others apparently can communicate with the outside world.

 

[flashbacck]

No one mentioned that they finally answer what Locke saw in the very first season as he was staring up at the "monster." He saw a very bright light that he said was beautiful. But Eko sees a black cloud of smoke.

 

[Ike0069]

Originally posted by: flashbacck
No one mentioned that they finally answer what Locke saw in the very first season as he was staring up at the "monster." He saw a very bright light that he said was beautiful. But Eko sees a black cloud of smoke.

Yes, I find this very interesting. I remember when Jack was pulling Locke out of the hole that the smoke was pulling him in, Locke told Jack to let him go because he was not scared. Does this smoke only hurt those that have a checkerd past? If so, Kate and Sawyer better hide.

 

[Smartazz]

Originally posted by: flashbacck
No one mentioned that they finally answer what Locke saw in the very first season as he was staring up at the "monster." He saw a very bright light that he said was beautiful. But Eko sees a black cloud of smoke.

How do you know that's what Locke was talking about?

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: Hammerhead

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: BornStar18
Alright, I'm no botanist, but were those poppy plants that Ecko was talking to his brother amongst?

The red flower ones? I believe they were some kind of bromeliad.

I'm confused now about who his brother was really.

It could be Red Ginger plants. Very common in Hawaii
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Yeah a screencap of the lost plants looks exactly like this red ginger.

 

[Semidevil]

is it me or does each time one of the actors gets pulled over, they get killed off?

Didn't anna lucia and LIbby get arrested?

I read in the paper a few months back that Eko got pulled over also....

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Ike0069

Originally posted by: flashbacck
No one mentioned that they finally answer what Locke saw in the very first season as he was staring up at the "monster." He saw a very bright light that he said was beautiful. But Eko sees a black cloud of smoke.

Yes, I find this very interesting. I remember when Jack was pulling Locke out of the hole that the smoke was pulling him in, Locke told Jack to let him go because he was not scared. Does this smoke only hurt those that have a checkerd past? If so, Kate and Sawyer better hide.

The show has always done the black and white....light and dark theme.....

Read this from the Lost Wikipedia entry....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thematic_motifs_of_Lost#Black_and_white

 

[sswingle]

Just watched the episode. Awesome as always.

 

[EmperorIQ]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
That sucks about Eko. They don't have many young strong guys left now.

By the way, when those two new people went on the expedition I was like "uhoh, I that new guy is gonna get it. they don't show him and all of a sudden his girlfriend wants to go on an adventure. the last "new guy" got himself blown up with dynamite".

So is the lady a good Other and Ben is a bad other? Are they both good others...are they both bad others? Is she bad and Ben is actually good?

Does anybody else think Juliette plays her role well? You really want to like and trust her b/c she seems so sweet and honest, yet very pretty like a lady next door.

SPOILERS!

I don't know, Remember that scene where sawyer told kate that juliet would have no problems killing kate? He said that he can see it in her eyes. Makes it look like juliet is cold hearted, but ben looks pretty cold hearted too. Could be a power struggle and both of them are trying to use jack to their advantage. Ben wants to survive and juliet wants him gone?

 

[ThePresence]

I keep wondering what the crazy French woman is doing all this time.

 

[JEDIYoda]

You will be assimulated

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Semidevil
I read in the paper a few months back that Eko got pulled over also....

I think he got picked up for something but he's leaving because he asked to be written out. Both of his parents died last year and he wanted to come back to the UK and direct a film.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Just watched the episode. Awesome as always.

I thought it was horribly put together. We got some new information in the last half but the production was very poor, especially the writing. A lot of the characters were acting very strangely and their dialogue was off. Some of the sets/locations weren't convincing which wasn't helped by dodgy lighting or naff CG (the hatch). Definitely the worst episode of the season, if not all seasons.

Mr Eko was the only thing holding it together for me and even some of those flashbacks were just repeats of what we've seen before. Yeah, we've had repeated scenes before but if a character is on their way out, try to make an effort. AAA is a good actor and he was playing an interesting character so it's a shame he had to leave.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I keep wondering what the crazy French woman is doing all this time.

I wonder the same thing and nobody anywhere picks up on my questions. SHe has all but been written off the show. They have brought what is/was her daughter into little scenes here and there (even this season when Kate is breaking rocks).

Regardless, it seems Rousseau would be around a bit more. But there are so many open ended items, who knows.

Regardless, as (pretty much always) amazing show.

The one "solid" thing I picked up this episode s that once one of the characters comes to gripes with their past (either they accept or amend, or atone or whatever) the ISLAND takes them.

I don't know what I will do during the hiatus... hopefully they pump the web full of tidbits here and there to keep the faithful interested. Until then I will have to "settle" for BSG

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Just watched the episode. Awesome as always.

I thought it was horribly put together. We got some new information in the last half but the production was very poor, especially the writing. A lot of the characters were acting very strangely and their dialogue was off. Some of the sets/locations weren't convincing which wasn't helped by dodgy lighting or naff CG (the hatch). Definitely the worst episode of the season, if not all seasons.

Mr Eko was the only thing holding it together for me and even some of those flashbacks were just repeats of what we've seen before. Yeah, we've had repeated scenes before but if a character is on their way out, try to make an effort. AAA is a good actor and he was playing an interesting character so it's a shame he had to leave.

Yeah, I thought Jack was acting a little out-of-character.

 

[Homerboy]

I don't see in any shape way or form how that was one of the worst episodes ever. It was certainly one of the best. I didn't see how the characters were out of character at all. Anywhere. Most characters are in the middle of epiphanies and changing their attitudes (for better or worse) so any "change" in their character you are perceiving is likely correct (granted again, I saw little to none).

Yeah the CGI hatch was bad no question. No idea why they even had to do that... but then again I play video games for gameplay, not gfx.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: flashbacck
No one mentioned that they finally answer what Locke saw in the very first season as he was staring up at the "monster." He saw a very bright light that he said was beautiful. But Eko sees a black cloud of smoke.

Nanobots can make light if they want. They can make fire. They can make horses, and people's dead fathers, and polar bears, and anything the hell they want.

 

[JEDI]

wtf? Mr Eko is dead?

Why did they kill them off?

edit:
"When the producers of Lost first conceived the character of Mr. Eko, he was simply a gentle, upstanding Nigerian priest. And after an onscreen career full of drugs and thugs, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje jumped at the chance to play such a role. ''When you're a large black man in Hollywood, the obvious stereotype is one of force and menace,'' says the 39-year-old actor, whose 6'2'' build and hulking shoulders are just as imposing in person."

Mr Eko got switched to being a menacing drug lord pretending to be a priest.

So the producers did a bait and switch on Akinnuoye-Agbaje. he was back to the stereotype instead of something different

 

[Smartazz]

Was the guy with the eye patch in the hatch? It looks like the computer in the backround.