Los Angeles War Protest Oct 6......with PICS!!

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Pocatello

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But that cowardly sniper over in MD is shooting randomly at innocent civilians, not someone who deserve to be shot like these people! Bad taste, I know. It's a free country, protest all you want!
 

BillGates

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Just so you know, congress, Bush, and anybody else who is going to make any war decisions don't give a $*&()@ about people protesting. Protesting is worthless.
 

smp

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: chiwawa626 oh yeha what was this war for again? I forget since there seems to be nothing actualy backing it up if i am correct ? (except the united states...and bush)
Nothing much.....just keeping you safe. Don't worry though because better men than yourself, and most of us here, will go into danger to insure our safety and freedoms. Thank God for them and the job they do.

I hope you feel really proud and justified when you're lying dead in a coffin with your flag draped over it. People will miss you, maybe your kids, maybe your parents, but we'll be no freer as a result. Your government did a good job imbedding grandiose delusions into your skull, you are no martyr, and you are no better than Osama's jihad fighters. You're both slaves to your ideology. You wouldn't know what freedom is if it you slept with it.
Some people are raised on GI-JOE and they never grow out of it.
Me? I'll take my freedom any way I can get it, not dictated to me by my government, my flag, or you.

 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: smp
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: chiwawa626 oh yeha what was this war for again? I forget since there seems to be nothing actualy backing it up if i am correct ? (except the united states...and bush)
Nothing much.....just keeping you safe. Don't worry though because better men than yourself, and most of us here, will go into danger to insure our safety and freedoms. Thank God for them and the job they do.

I hope you feel really proud and justified when you're lying dead in a coffin with your flag draped over it. People will miss you, maybe your kids, maybe your parents, but we'll be no freer as a result. Your government did a good job imbedding grandiose delusions into your skull, you are no martyr, and you are no better than Osama's jihad fighters. You're both slaves to your ideology. You wouldn't know what freedom is if it you slept with it.
Some people are raised on GI-JOE and they never grow out of it.
Me? I'll take my freedom any way I can get it, not dictated to me by my government, my flag, or you.


wow if you really feel that way, then i pity you smp
 

GoingUp

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One of the little ironies that I find about this sort of crap is that in 90% of other countries in the world, if you protest against the govt. theyll just round you up and kill you. The protestors love to say how terrible America is, but they sure enjoy all the rights they have.
I wonder when was the last time that they thanked the mother of a fallen soldier for helping defend our country. They still have rights just like everybody else no matter how misguided their ideals may be.


Homer : Fine. I guess the juice business is more important than the ideals our hippie forefathers refused to go to war and die for.


Another interesting note is that you always see the same people at these protests. It's like the stamped them out from the same mold or something.


And another clarification before people flame: I support a peaceful resolution to the Saddam topic, but if he wants to dick around more and try his old tricks, then I say we need to go in and take care of business; but only/if after the inspectors fail.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: smp
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: chiwawa626 oh yeha what was this war for again? I forget since there seems to be nothing actualy backing it up if i am correct ? (except the united states...and bush)
Nothing much.....just keeping you safe. Don't worry though because better men than yourself, and most of us here, will go into danger to insure our safety and freedoms. Thank God for them and the job they do.

I hope you feel really proud and justified when you're lying dead in a coffin with your flag draped over it. People will miss you, maybe your kids, maybe your parents, but we'll be no freer as a result. Your government did a good job imbedding grandiose delusions into your skull, you are no martyr, and you are no better than Osama's jihad fighters. You're both slaves to your ideology. You wouldn't know what freedom is if it you slept with it.
Some people are raised on GI-JOE and they never grow out of it.
Me? I'll take my freedom any way I can get it, not dictated to me by my government, my flag, or you.
Wow, I can't believe our education system raises such ignorant people. :disgust:

 

BillGates

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
One of the little ironies that I find about this sort of crap is that in 90% of other countries in the world, if you protest against the govt. theyll just round you up and kill you. The protestors love to say how terrible America is, but they sure enjoy all the rights they have.
I wonder when was the last time that they thanked the mother of a fallen soldier for helping defend our country. They still have rights just like everybody else no matter how misguided their ideals may be.


Homer : Fine. I guess the juice business is more important than the ideals our hippie forefathers refused to go to war and die for.


Another interesting note is that you always see the same people at these protests. It's like the stamped them out from the same mold or something.


And another clarification before people flame: I support a peaceful resolution to the Saddam topic, but if he wants to dick around more and try his old tricks, then I say we need to go in and take care of business; but only/if after the inspectors fail.

Good points - I'm in WI also (Madison) and know exactly what you mean when you say the same people are always at the protests.

I think they find something new to protest every week; it helps them prevent showering.
 

Pocatello

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smp, I feel sorry for you. Do you think all those people who died for this country, since the revolutionary war to the presence, wanted to be martyrs? Most of them died, fighting for each other like those Army Rangers in Somalia not so long ago, not for their flag, not because of any speech by any politician, and not brainwashed, as you say.
 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: BillGates
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
One of the little ironies that I find about this sort of crap is that in 90% of other countries in the world, if you protest against the govt. theyll just round you up and kill you. The protestors love to say how terrible America is, but they sure enjoy all the rights they have.
I wonder when was the last time that they thanked the mother of a fallen soldier for helping defend our country. They still have rights just like everybody else no matter how misguided their ideals may be.


Homer : Fine. I guess the juice business is more important than the ideals our hippie forefathers refused to go to war and die for.


Another interesting note is that you always see the same people at these protests. It's like the stamped them out from the same mold or something.


And another clarification before people flame: I support a peaceful resolution to the Saddam topic, but if he wants to dick around more and try his old tricks, then I say we need to go in and take care of business; but only/if after the inspectors fail.

Good points - I'm in WI also (Madison) and know exactly what you mean when you say the same people are always at the protests.

I think they find something new to protest every week; it helps them prevent showering.

LOL Amen to that. I goto UW as well. I always get yelled at by the same dreadlocked granola on library mall when there is a protest going on. The best ones to watch are the Anti Isrealli ones, cause the Towers and Statesider are there (for all of you not @ Madison they are almost all East coast jewish dorms)

 

smp

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: smp
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: chiwawa626 oh yeha what was this war for again? I forget since there seems to be nothing actualy backing it up if i am correct ? (except the united states...and bush)
Nothing much.....just keeping you safe. Don't worry though because better men than yourself, and most of us here, will go into danger to insure our safety and freedoms. Thank God for them and the job they do.
I hope you feel really proud and justified when you're lying dead in a coffin with your flag draped over it. People will miss you, maybe your kids, maybe your parents, but we'll be no freer as a result. Your government did a good job imbedding grandiose delusions into your skull, you are no martyr, and you are no better than Osama's jihad fighters. You're both slaves to your ideology. You wouldn't know what freedom is if it you slept with it. Some people are raised on GI-JOE and they never grow out of it. Me? I'll take my freedom any way I can get it, not dictated to me by my government, my flag, or you.
wow if you really feel that way, then i pity you smp

Pity me all you want.

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
One of the little ironies that I find about this sort of crap is that in 90% of other countries in the world, if you protest against the govt. theyll just round you up and kill you. The protestors love to say how terrible America is, but they sure enjoy all the rights they have. I wonder when was the last time that they thanked the mother of a fallen soldier for helping defend our country. They still have rights just like everybody else no matter how misguided their ideals may be.
And you've been to protests in other countries? Give me a fvcking break, you know nothing of it, AT ALL.
You're convinced that only your country has freedom, bullsh!t!
Argentina
Mexico
Equador
Pakistan
Colombia
Yugoslavia
Most of Europe
China
South Africa
Zimbabwe
Vietnam
Korea

and the list goes on.
You were saying something about the freedom to protest?
Last protest I was at I saw a 16 year old kid take a 300 ft/second rubber bullet the size and density of a golf ball in the nuts. Who's supressing who you ignorant SOB? I saw 6000 heavily armed policeman take on 60,000 unarmed "citizens" of this "free country" with an arsenal of chemical weapons, live ammunition and the rubber kind. I saw a kid who had to have his larynx operated on because a certain cop felt that his oppinion was out of place.
Who's suppressing who?
And you! You and you're ilk only add to the repression because you only serve to support the status quo that is pushing these kinds of pirate tactics on the rest of the world.
Get out of your bubble and maybe go to another country, and not a fenced off resort for americans only, if you have the balls.

The fact that some of you are making comments about these people's hair, dress, appearance or anything only exemplifies your absolute bigotry and the fascism that is coming to the surface in our culture today. It's not okay to comment on someone's skin colour (no no, not PC) .. but it's perfectly fine to classify them based on appearance otherwise .. and class status.
Hey, the german citizens of world war II weren't bad people either.
 

smp

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Originally posted by: Pocatello
smp, how about mentioning all the looting and destruction to business properties?

How bout mentioning all the looting and destruction of foreign people's properties by those same business's?
Not to mention my cultural landscape?
 

klah

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Originally posted by: smp
Originally posted by: Pocatello
smp, how about mentioning all the looting and destruction to business properties?

How bout mentioning all the looting and destruction of foreign people's properties by those same business's?
Not to mention my cultural landscape?

Isn't it the responsibility of their governments to create laws to protect their own citizens then?
 

GoingUp

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Quite a nice rant SMP. I have actually been working in the middle of europe for the last 4 months, or is that not good enough? Should I go continue my internship in Baghdad? Or Tehran. I'll let you make the choice. Maybe then I'll be man enough for you. Seeing as how there are almost 240 countries in the world, and you named around 11, not counting Europe thats roughly 5% but ill give you the benifit of a doubt and lower my claim to 75% of the countries you can't get away with protesting against the government. What freedom does China have? They have censored internet and do you remember Tiannimen (spelling) square? When Chinese troops opened fire on students protesting. There was even a famous picture of a man standing in front of a tank. I'll E-mail it to you if you need proof. I wasn't at the last protest you were at, but from what I have seen on TV they are almost never peaceful. It's nice of you to try and protray your fellow protestors in an innocent light but they are just as guilty as the police for violence at the protests. I've seen plenty of coverage of Seattle and Genoa where the protestors try to goad the Police into attacking them so they can get the pictures they want. The police get fed up and strike back, sometimes too heavy handedly and unfortunate peaceful protestors can get caught in the crossfire. I have admitted that sometimes the police can go too far, so please don't bother to flame if you are going to portray a picture of innocence on the parts of the protestors. The ones I saw breaking windows and setting franchises and banks on fire didn't look that peaceful to me. What 60,000 strong protest where you talking about? Because none of the protests I have recently read about in the United States have had that many people and if you are referring to Seattle then it was by no means a peaceful protest. Maybe in the future if you concentrate on making valid arguements instead of hatemongering in your replies, you'll come across as less of a dumbass.
 

Pocatello

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Lucky for smp, he is protesting American Imperialism in an American based forum, which is perfectly fine.
 

B00ne

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Originally posted by: smp
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: chiwawa626 oh yeha what was this war for again? I forget since there seems to be nothing actualy backing it up if i am correct ? (except the united states...and bush)
Nothing much.....just keeping you safe. Don't worry though because better men than yourself, and most of us here, will go into danger to insure our safety and freedoms. Thank God for them and the job they do.

I hope you feel really proud and justified when you're lying dead in a coffin with your flag draped over it. People will miss you, maybe your kids, maybe your parents, but we'll be no freer as a result. Your government did a good job imbedding grandiose delusions into your skull, you are no martyr, and you are no better than Osama's jihad fighters. You're both slaves to your ideology. You wouldn't know what freedom is if it you slept with it.
Some people are raised on GI-JOE and they never grow out of it.
Me? I'll take my freedom any way I can get it, not dictated to me by my government, my flag, or you.

Well said, but these ppl wont realize how brainwashed they are anyway...
 

Red Dawn

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Wow, I can't believe our education system raises such ignorant people
Yeah they must not watch the FOX News Channel
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As long as Gulf WarII is as easy as Gulf WarI the American Voters will be happy. If Bush goes to war with Iraq and our boys aren't home by the next Presidential election Bush can kiss his hope for a second term goodbye.

Personally I think the best action would be to bomb their infrastucture back into the stoneage again. That includes destroying their ability to produce oil.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wow, I can't believe our education system raises such ignorant people
Yeah they must not watch the FOX News Channel
rolleye.gif


As long as Gulf WarII is as easy as Gulf WarI the American Voters will be happy. If Bush goes to war with Iraq and our boys aren't home by the next Presidential election Bush can kiss his hope for a second term goodbye.

Personally I think the best action would be to bomb their infrastucture back into the stoneage again. That includes destroying their ability to produce oil.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=886730
thread by glenn1
In one of the great steps toward protecting civilians in wartime, at the end of World War II the U.S. chartered an effort known as the strategic bombing assessment. Reviewing the massive raids on German and Japanese cities, it found that war production continued pretty much as usual. Leveling of cities had little or no military value. It might now be a good idea to gather another group of civilians and Pentagon planners to again look at whether military purposes were served by the destruction of Iraq's infrastructure, with civilian effects a U.N. team described as "near apocalyptic."

In particular, a study ought to look at the attacks that destroyed the Iraqi electrical-power grid. It is the lack of generating capacity to power such fundamental structures as water-pumping stations and sewage facilities that is causing the stark assessments of life now for civilian Iraqis. The attacks were of course intended to disrupt Saddam's command and control systems, but we can assume that unlike civilian facilities, these were equipped with power backups. The power outage will of course also set back Saddam's strategic programs, though here too power can be restored more quickly than to civilian areas. Given the hardship imposed, there ought to be some hardheaded assessment of the extent to which military purposes were served.
 

I wish people would stop trying to rekindle the 60's anti-war BS. The only reason all those people were so for peace was they were so high on acid and having so much free sex they thought they were in Eutopia.

30-years later a bunch of whiny college kids are doing the same thing in the name of fashion. Give me a break. God forbid somebody blows up part of LA, what are these people going to do then?
 

Red Dawn

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The only reason all those people were so for peace was they were so high on acid and having so much free sex they thought they were in Eutopia.
Wow what an ignorant piece of work you are. Your mother must have been tripping on LSD while doling out free sex when you were conceived.

wow, look at all the hippies
Hahaha..Yeah:) Most if not all the protesters look like your average American right down to that chick wearing those Britney Spears low slung Hip Hugger Jeans
 

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wow what an ignorant piece of work you are. Your mother must have been tripping on LSD while doling out free sex when you were conceived.
I would advise you not to talk that way about my family again.