Los Angeles War Protest Oct 6......with PICS!!

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
you obviously didn't go there just for the protest


hehe, notice the "one way" sign is up her butt

look at all those happy smiling people. they must be having so much fun I'm so proud to be american

too bad they're all going to die when Sadam blows us up since we weren't proactive

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: smp And you've been to protests in other countries? Give me a fvcking break, you know nothing of it, AT ALL. You're convinced that only your country has freedom, bullsh!t! Argentina Mexico Equador Pakistan Colombia Yugoslavia Most of Europe China South Africa Zimbabwe Vietnam Korea

ROFL. China included on a list of countries with freedom. Especially ironic when talking about freedom to protest and criticize the goverment.

I seem to remember that when the U.S "accidentally" bombed the Chinese consulate in Belgrade Yugoslavia, the chinese totally ransacked the U.S consulate somewhere in china .. don't remember exactly what city, but I remember that it happened, and i remember it was definately in China.
Tianemen square was a while ago.

BTW. The U.S's excuse for bombing the Chinese consulate (this was at the time of the leaked nuclear secrets) was that they had "outdated" maps (ROFL @ best intelligence in the world, come on! You have fvcking satellites for that sh!t) .. anyways .. my grandmother who has lived in Belgrade all of her life told me, that what stood in the Chinese consulates place before the Chinese consulate ... was a PARK.
The U.S said that they had outdated maps which pointed out a bunker or something fvcking retarded like that.
CNN my ass.

 

[Descartes]

Yet again we have all the pontificators calling everyone else "regards", "uneducated", "ignorant", ad nauseum, ad infinitum.

Everyone here talks about how they have to "set people straight", "show them the facts", when truly know no more than the most liberal "hippy".

The only sensible statement I've read in this thread was from smp:

"You're both slaves to your ideology."

Keep arguing; all of you. We, as a country, are right, everyone else is wrong. You, as the consumer of propaganda, are right, everyone else is wrong.

It's truly a shame we have such large temporal lobes and modest frontal lobes.

 

[Pocatello]

You still don't understand do you Czar. Your link to the cartoon makes me laugh. The cartoon basically is making fun of George Bush's administration view of people who disagree with its policy, and I was playing the role saying that those who disagree are unpatriotics and liars. If you're miffed about that, then I'm sorry. I don't think you're a liar or Red Dawn unpatriotic, ok! Geez. Another thing, I don't think the mods are "protecting" elite members such as Red Dawn. Sometimes I think people take my posts too seriously. Yeah, Czar, when are you going to protest about Saddam giving money to suicide bombers and their families, do you think that will help the peace process by urging these people to blow themselves and the Israeli civilians up? Or Czar only feel sorry for the Palestinians and screw the Israelis?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Codewiz
Let them protest. It is their right to do so. It actually helps the country as an end result IMO.

What I do have a problem with is this jackass I ran into in NYC two months ago. I was coming up from the subway and this jackass is handing out flyers to people, saying we need to impeach Bush. That is all fine and dandy because I usually just ignore people that try to hand me stuff in NYC. This jackass had the nerve to place it again my chest so that either I litter or take his stupid flyer. I only saw him doing this to the younger crowd(less than 30). When he touched me I just got knocked him a good one but I didn't because I didn't need that trouble. I just took the fvcking thing and yelled, "HEY, take a look" and I threw it in the trash.

Simple protests are fine by me. Just don't expect me to listen or take your literature.

bush needs impeached? for what? not being a democrat?

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
You still don't understand do you Czar. Your link to the cartoon makes me laugh. The cartoon basically is making fun of George Bush's administration view of people who disagree with its policy, and I was playing the role saying that those who disagree are unpatriotics and liars. If you're miffed about that, then I'm sorry. I don't think you're a liar or Red Dawn unpatriotic, ok! Geez. Another thing, I don't think the mods are "protecting" elite members such as Red Dawn. Sometimes I think people take my posts too seriously. Yeah, Czar, when are you going to protest about Saddam giving money to suicide bombers and their families, do you think that will help the peace process by urging these people to blow themselves and the Israeli civilians up? Or Czar only feel sorry for the Palestinians and screw the Israelis?

Yeah .. and what makes you so convinced that Saddam is giving these people money? Really though .. and what makes you so convinced that there is a financial desire in suicide bombing anyways? Come'on . that is so dehumanizing .. that's what the media does .. it portrays your "enemies" as in-human, rendering you careless to their well being.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Descartes
Yet again we have all the pontificators calling everyone else "regards", "uneducated", "ignorant", ad nauseum, ad infinitum.

Everyone here talks about how they have to "set people straight", "show them the facts", when truly know no more than the most liberal "hippy".

The only sensible statement I've read in this thread was from smp:

"You're both slaves to your ideology."

Keep arguing; all of you. We, as a country, are right, everyone else is wrong. You, as the consumer of propaganda, are right, everyone else is wrong.

It's truly a shame we have such large temporal lobes and modest frontal lobes.

Everyone, quick, SHHHH, stop arguing. Posting = evil. Don't say a word. No more. Quit it. If you can't say something nice, don't say it. Forums are not for chatting. Now go home and hug your mom.


btw, what's a ponstifigitavor?

 

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Now if they are using the protests against the Vietnam war as an example of the American Population rising up against a corrupt American Government fighting an illegal war then they are right on the money. It has nothing to do with a "Utopia" or "Free Sex" as your earlier statement concluded.

I would argue that 60% of the 60's protestors couldn't even find Vietnam on a map, much less be able to argue the intricacies of the war. I was not for 'nam, I am not for Iraq. But I base my political opinions off of experience, not from what MTV says.

 

[Red Dawn]

I would argue that 60% of the 60's protestors couldn't even find Vietnam on a map

And your argument would be that of an idiot.

 

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And your argument would be that of an idiot.

Unless you can argue the contrary, you are an idiot as well.

 

[Red Dawn]

I was 18 in 72. I had friends over int Viet Nam. Viet Nam was the top story in the News every night. Pictures of wounded Americans were in our living rooms. To say 60% of those protesting didn't know where Viet Nam was is assinine and totally ignorant.

Your arguments have no credibility what so ever regarding Vietnam or proposed actions taken against Iraq.

 

[Pocatello]

smp, the families of those suicide bombers get about $25,000, $10,000 of their houses get blown up by the IDF, all being paid by the "generous" Saddam. Even Czar can verify that for you, if Czar follow the news at all.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
You still don't understand do you Czar. Your link to the cartoon makes me laugh. The cartoon basically is making fun of George Bush's administration view of people who disagree with its policy, and I was playing the role saying that those who disagree are unpatriotics and liars. If you're miffed about that, then I'm sorry. I don't think you're a liar or Red Dawn unpatriotic, ok! Geez. Another thing, I don't think the mods are "protecting" elite members such as Red Dawn. Sometimes I think people take my posts too seriously. Yeah, Czar, when are you going to protest about Saddam giving money to suicide bombers and their families, do you think that will help the peace process by urging these people to blow themselves and the Israeli civilians up? Or Czar only feel sorry for the Palestinians and screw the Israelis?

ok, first of all, that comic makes fun of people who call everyone who doesnt agree with the Bush administration un-patriotic, thats why I posted because there is alot of that going on in here.

I didnt openly protest to Saddam giving them money because there were so many people doing it, I only openly protest things that other people dont.

or lies spouted by Czar and the likes of him

this comment by you, please explain

 

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I was 18 in 72. I had friends over int Viet Nam. Viet Nam was the top story in the News every night. Pictures of wounded Americans were in our living rooms. To say 60% of those protesting didn't know where Viet Nam was is assinine and totally ignorant.

I will give you that one then. I still stand firm that the majority of those LA protestors were fashion victims looking for their personal Vietnam.

 

[Aceman]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Now if they are using the protests against the Vietnam war as an example of the American Population rising up against a corrupt American Government fighting an illegal war then they are right on the money. It has nothing to do with a "Utopia" or "Free Sex" as your earlier statement concluded.

I would argue that 60% of the 60's protestors couldn't even find Vietnam on a map, much less be able to argue the intricacies of the war. I was not for 'nam, I am not for Iraq. But I base my political opinions off of experience, not from what MTV says.

Ummmm, before this goes any further.........

dwell, how old are you? Were you around in the 60s? Did you live through/were part of the experience of the 60s? Or is this all in what you read? Or did you gather this info from 1 or 2 or a dozen people that lived through the 60s?

We all know that Red Dawn lived through that era.

I'm usually one to trust the opinion of someone who lived through it over someone who came to their opinion from that read in a book. Readings are usually slanted from one extreme to the other.




Guess I type to slow.

 

[fluxquantum]

It's a free country, protest all you want!

 

[Red Dawn]

I still stand firm that the majority of those LA protestors were fashion victims looking for their personal Vietnam.

Of course you do, you are ignorant. BTW, I think anyone paying $90.00 for a pair of jeans are the ones who are victims of fashion

It's a free country, protest all you want!

That's right. I also want to hear both sides of the debate beofre I throw my full support into this war. Right now I am definately leaning towards taking action. But with so much at stake we better make sure this is the right thing to do.

Personally I think this is a mess that was left behind from GWI. I understand why we left the job unfinished. It would have taken a leader of great courage and forsight to finish the job and to be frank, The Real Bush wasn't that kind of leader...not that Clinton was either.

 

[Pocatello]

Actually, Red Dawn, people see dead and injured Americans on TV, knowing where Vietnam is...is another story. I highly doubted those protestors know much abut Vietnam or the Vietnamese, what the war is about, justify or unjustify. From my experience as a Vietnamese immigrant who was in the "war".

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
smp, the families of those suicide bombers get about $25,000, $10,000 of their houses get blown up by the IDF, all being paid by the "generous" Saddam. Even Czar can verify that for you, if Czar follow the news at all.

Yeah ... AND WHAT LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT?
They say it on the news? Oh, then it must be true .. how fvcking imbecilic of me!!! D'oh!





Like I mentioned earlier, they also reported on the news that the Chinese consulate bombing in Belgrade was due to outdated maps, were they aiming at a fscking park then? I was also told by the news that Iraqi troops were pulling babies out of incubators back in persian gulf #1 .. that also proved to be untrue .. but what the hell, if they say that Saddam is paying up, and that these families are selling their children's lives for 25,000 .. well, then it must be true. Those palestinians are INHUMAN .. they sell their kids lives so that they could kill innocent people and get 25,000!!! What fvcking animals!!!



In other words... I don't believe a word. Just because you say something a million times doesn't make it true. You'll notice that on the news they say these things as fact, in passing, as parts of conversation, they never mention how they came of this knowledge. Also, you'll notice that they fvcking repeat it a zillion motherfvcking times. Man, if someone tells me something that many times I have to KNOW that they're lying.

 

[Red Dawn]

I highly doubted those protestors know much abut Vietnam or the Vietnamese, what the war is about, justify or unjustify. From my experience as a Vietnamese immigrant who was in the "war".

Most knew that it was a civil war and that we had no business there. That's all they needed to know. South Vietnam wasn't worth one American life.

 

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Of course you do, you are ignorant. BTW, I think anyone paying $90.00 for a pair of jeans are the ones who are victims of fashion

http://pics.paulsonator.com/users/hamburgerpimp/war12.jpg
I'd say those jeans were ~60 bucks. Nice belly ring too. Oh look at that dude's bag, looks like one of those trendy Manhattan skater bags. The protest just goes with the outfit.

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: Red Dawn Of course you do, you are ignorant. BTW, I think anyone paying $90.00 for a pair of jeans are the ones who are victims of fashion

http://pics.paulsonator.com/users/hamburgerpimp/war12.jpg I'd say those jeans were ~60 bucks. Nice belly ring too. Oh look at that dude's bag, looks like one of those trendy Manhattan skater bags. The protest just goes with the outfit.

WTF is your point?
Just because they're at a protest that means that they can't participate in american consumer culture? WTF not?

 

[Pocatello]

smp, if you don't believe the Palestinians picking up these checks openly before Arab television, then I can't never convince you. After all, bin Laden and his associates keep releasing tapes boasting about 9/11 attack, and why they did it. Most of the Arabs are still convinced it was the Mossad and the CIA who did it not their fellow beings.

 

Originally posted by: smp
WTF is your point? Just because they're at a protest that means that they can't participate in american consumer culture? WTF not?

No, it's just poetic how their political understanding is as shallow as their wardrobe.

 

[Red Dawn]

No, it's just poetic how their political understanding is as shallow as their wardrobe.

Almost as shallow as yours.