Los Angeles War Protest Oct 6......with PICS!!

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Or you will do what? Cry??
Just dont be an asshole and bring family into this. It only makes your argument looks weak. Not to mention it's disrespectful. What are you, 12 years old?

 

Red Dawn

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Just dont be an asshole and bring family into this. It only makes your argument looks weak. Not to mention it's disrespectful. What are you, 12 years old?
No weaker and no more assholish:))) than this remark
The only reason all those people were so for peace was they were so high on acid and having so much free sex they thought they were in Eutopia.
When you talk out your ass your breath stinks.
 

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Originally posted by: Intake77
wow, look at all the hippies.

Damn those hippies ;) They should be supporting Bush because he has probably done all the same drugs as them. :)
 

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Haha, Red Dawn is turning on his personal insult mod on! Don't start with Red Dawn, he's an elite member after all, and has the mods behind him, dwell you're just a regular member like me, and the mods don't want regular folks going after the elite. Calm down.
 

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
No weaker and no more assholish than this remark
Yeah but notice that remark did not mention Red Dawn's mom? Grow up already. Mother jokes are for 8th graders. If you can't think of anything more witty than a mother joke just don't reply.
 

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Quite a nice rant SMP. I have actually been working in the middle of europe for the last 4 months, or is that not good enough? Should I go continue my internship in Baghdad? Or Tehran. I'll let you make the choice. Maybe then I'll be man enough for you. Seeing as how there are almost 240 countries in the world, and you named around 11, not counting Europe thats roughly 5% but ill give you the benifit of a doubt and lower my claim to 75% of the countries you can't get away with protesting against the government. What freedom does China have? They have censored internet and do you remember Tiannimen (spelling) square? When Chinese troops opened fire on students protesting. There was even a famous picture of a man standing in front of a tank. I'll E-mail it to you if you need proof. I wasn't at the last protest you were at, but from what I have seen on TV they are almost never peaceful. It's nice of you to try and protray your fellow protestors in an innocent light but they are just as guilty as the police for violence at the protests. I've seen plenty of coverage of Seattle and Genoa where the protestors try to goad the Police into attacking them so they can get the pictures they want. The police get fed up and strike back, sometimes too heavy handedly and unfortunate peaceful protestors can get caught in the crossfire. I have admitted that sometimes the police can go too far, so please don't bother to flame if you are going to portray a picture of innocence on the parts of the protestors. The ones I saw breaking windows and setting franchises and banks on fire didn't look that peaceful to me. What 60,000 strong protest where you talking about? Because none of the protests I have recently read about in the United States have had that many people and if you are referring to Seattle then it was by no means a peaceful protest. Maybe in the future if you concentrate on making valid arguements instead of hatemongering in your replies, you'll come across as less of a dumbass.

You have just demonstrated the biased nature of the media.
The protest I was talking about was april 01 in quebec city.
Yes, there were "black blockers" there who were hurling rocks at cops.
You know who the cops were firing tear gas at?
All the people at the back, who weren't doing anything. They pretty much, for the most part, let the black blockers do what they want .. it's a media war after all.
I've seen kids sitting on the ground, refusing to move, but being totally peacefull have pepper spray RUBBED into their faces by cops.
The tear gas in quebec was fired, the first round, when about ten people started rattling the fence .. and the tear gas wasn't fired at them, it was fired at all the people in back, who were unprotected (the people in the front had masks) ..
Anyways .. yeah, I've never been to tehran .. I know what you're talking about in China as well .. I'm just trying to point out that everything here isn't as hunky dorry as most people would like to believe.
The protests .. whatever .. I don't really care for them myself either. Most people here are right in saying that those people are 'mislead' .. but not any more so than anyone else who claims to know the answers.

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Originally posted by: smp
Originally posted by: Pocatello smp, how about mentioning all the looting and destruction to business properties?
How bout mentioning all the looting and destruction of foreign people's properties by those same business's? Not to mention my cultural landscape?
Isn't it the responsibility of their governments to create laws to protect their own citizens then?

Yes.
So if one government is not protecting it's citizens and land from exploitation, that gives us the right to exploit their citizens too?
That's like buying a stolen TV. Benefitting from other people's losses, cashing in on crime.




 

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If you can't think of anything more witty than a mother joke just don't reply.
Don't change the subject idiot. You thinking that these protesters are just trying to bring back the 60's is about a dumb a comment as one can make. People have grave concerns regarding this war. They aren't protesting it for nostalgia sake as you and a few other ignorant boneheads have stated. If you are going to spout off nonsense then expect to be ridiculed for your assinine comments.
 

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Don't change the subject idiot. You thinking that these protesters are just trying to bring back the 60's is about a dumb a comment as one can make. People have grave concerns regarding this war. They aren't protesting it for nostalgia sake as you and a few other ignorant boneheads have stated. If you are going to spout off nonsense then expect to be ridiculed for your assinine comments.
Not trying to change the subject, if you want to talk w/o insulting my family let's do it.

Not saying all of those people are fashion victims, but I can bet the bulk of them are. I ran into a anti-war protest last October in NYC. The group was mainly a bunch of NYU students. They were SO against the war but none of the people I spoke with really even understood anything about the Middle East or it's conflicts. They were just out there because they desperately need some defining event in their generation to latch on to. They see the 60's as a great thing and they want to recreate it. Impossible.
 

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Like I said Red Dawn, I like this forum too much to be kicked off by the mods. Cowardly, yes, but where else could I go to right the wrongs spewing from the mouth (or typed words) of unpatriotic Americans or lies spouted by Czar and the likes of him ;) ? Oh, I think I went too far there!
 

Red Dawn

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They were just out there because they desperately need some defining event in their generation to latch on to.
You mean spending $900 for a pair of jeans and listening to Eminem isn't defining enough for them? In my book that defines them perfectly..as idiots.

Now if they are using the protests against the Vietnam war as an example of the American Population rising up against a corrupt American Government fighting an illegal war then they are right on the money. It has nothing to do with a "Utopia" or "Free Sex" as your earlier statement concluded.

 

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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Red Dawn Don't change the subject idiot. You thinking that these protesters are just trying to bring back the 60's is about a dumb a comment as one can make. People have grave concerns regarding this war. They aren't protesting it for nostalgia sake as you and a few other ignorant boneheads have stated. If you are going to spout off nonsense then expect to be ridiculed for your assinine comments.
Not trying to change the subject, if you want to talk w/o insulting my family let's do it. Not saying all of those people are fashion victims, but I can bet the bulk of them are. I ran into a anti-war protest last October in NYC. The group was mainly a bunch of NYU students. They were SO against the war but none of the people I spoke with really even understood anything about the Middle East or it's conflicts. They were just out there because they desperately need some defining event in their generation to latch on to. They see the 60's as a great thing and they want to recreate it. Impossible.

And you're the authority on the middle east and it's conflicts?
Yes, most protestors are mislead .. and I repeat .. not any more so than anyone else who claims to have all the answers.
Waging war is a final moral judgement .. you are saying, "I know all and this is the final solution" .. what're you? God? You have the right to take and break lives because you have some higher moral authority? (you is a general term here)

 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They were just out there because they desperately need some defining event in their generation to latch on to.
You mean spending $900 for a pair of jeans and listening to Eminem isn't defining enough for them? In my book that defines them perfectly..as idiots. Now if they are using the protests against the Vietnam war as an example of the American Population rising up against a corrupt American Government fighting an illegal war then they are right on the money. It has nothing to do with a "Utopia" or "Free Sex" as your earlier statement concluded.

When I first ever tangled with you .. a while back now .. I hated you. Right now I couldn't love a man more.
 

Red Dawn

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yes, but where else could I go to right the wrongs spewing from the mouth (or typed words) of unpatriotic Americans
So if they disgree with you regarding this situation in the Middle East they are unpatriotic ? I disagree with many who arte against taking any action against Saddam but I don't consider the unpatriotic. Don't wrap the flag around yourself and your viewpoint because you don't wear it well.
 

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Right now I couldn't love a man more.
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Originally posted by: Pocatello
Like I said Red Dawn, I like this forum too much to be kicked off by the mods. Cowardly, yes, but where else could I go to right the wrongs spewing from the mouth (or typed words) of unpatriotic Americans or lies spouted by Czar and the likes of him ;) ? Oh, I think I went too far there!
lies???

just leave before the mods ban you:|

 

Red Dawn

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Czar the Anti-Christ..hahahaha. Hey at least he can't call you unpatriotic
 

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Originally posted by: smp
And you've been to protests in other countries? Give me a fvcking break, you know nothing of it, AT ALL.
You're convinced that only your country has freedom, bullsh!t!
Argentina
Mexico
Equador
Pakistan
Colombia
Yugoslavia
Most of Europe
China
South Africa
Zimbabwe
Vietnam
Korea

ROFL. China included on a list of countries with freedom. Especially ironic when talking about

freedom to protest and criticize the goverment.
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Perhaps I should put my sarcastic mod around my statement? I shall make this clear, I do not view those people who disagree with Pres Bush's policy toward the Middle East is unpatriotic or anything else. It's just that Czar's link to the cartoon was quite amusing. But I do think Saddam should be removed. War is our only option before he becomes more powerful. That is my opinion. Again, if yours is different, fine.
 

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Originally posted by: Pocatello
Perhaps I should put my sarcastic mod around my statement? I shall make this clear, I do not view those people who disagree with Pres Bush's policy toward the Middle East is unpatriotic or anything else. It's just that Czar's link to the cartoon was quite amusing. But I do think Saddam should be removed. War is our only option before he becomes more powerful. That is my opinion. Again, if yours is different, fine.

I guess you dont follow the news
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57348-2002Oct7.html
 

Pocatello

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Actually Czar, I read the news quite regularly, but why do I care if you think I read the news or not (since I reply, then I must care). But your partly right, I don't read the Wash Post, since I'm not a member, and your linky don't work nothing for me. Perhaps you should put the article here, if possible.
 

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Let them protest. It is their right to do so. It actually helps the country as an end result IMO.

What I do have a problem with is this jackass I ran into in NYC two months ago. I was coming up from the subway and this jackass is handing out flyers to people, saying we need to impeach Bush. That is all fine and dandy because I usually just ignore people that try to hand me stuff in NYC. This jackass had the nerve to place it again my chest so that either I litter or take his stupid flyer. I only saw him doing this to the younger crowd(less than 30). When he touched me I just got knocked him a good one but I didn't because I didn't need that trouble. I just took the fvcking thing and yelled, "HEY, take a look" and I threw it in the trash.

Simple protests are fine by me. Just don't expect me to listen or take your literature.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Pocatello
Actually Czar, I read the news quite regularly, but why do I care if you think I read the news or not (since I reply, then I must care). But your partly right, I don't read the Wash Post, since I'm not a member, and your linky don't work nothing for me. Perhaps you should put the article here, if possible.

A Gallup poll released yesterday found a bare majority of Americans -- 53 percent -- favored a ground invasion of Iraq, down from 61 percent in June and 74 percent last November. An ABC News poll, also released yesterday, found that 50 percent of Americans agreed with the proposition that diplomacy does not work with Iraq and the time for military action is near; 44 percent favored holding off on military action and pursuing diplomacy.

tell me, why are you calling me a liar?:|
 

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wait, what am I looking at again? All I saw was a crowd of uneducated retards

<----- was born in LA :(