Looks like The Titanic killed a few more people

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Zorba

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I do not understand why people are not happy with remote submersibles with 4k cameras showing the Titanic? They've mapped the Titanic and created 3D renderings as well. Why would anybody go down that far on a civilian funded mission? This whole thing looks like a Darwin award winning operation.
Do you understand concerts or seeing the Mona Lisa in person?
 

Zorba

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You carry 6km of steel cable around?
I'm sure many salvage ships do. That really isn't that much cable.

But I'm sure they were dead a long time ago and if not definitely would be before they could be located and hauled in.
 

K1052

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It either popped on the descent or they are stuck somewhere on/near the wreck for some reason. I don't hold out a lot of hope for scenario 2 based on when they lost contact. It's 2.5 hours down and they lost comms well before they would have bottomed AFAIK.
 
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Hans Gruber

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Do you understand concerts or seeing the Mona Lisa in person?
From what I understand a failed seal or sudden water intrusion results in an instant death. It would be like asking a mathematician or physics PhD the potential dangers of lurking more than 2 miles below the surface of the sea. The numbers are an instant, no thanks. Unequal pressures that equalize instantly.

They have IMAX theaters with music detailing the Titanic in living 4k color. They perfected the art of presentation of historical events and structures.

Going to a concert of visiting an art museum generally does not come with the risk of death.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I'm sure many salvage ships do. That really isn't that much cable.

But I'm sure they were dead a long time ago and if not definitely would be before they could be located and hauled in.
You'd need a ship with that much cable that was strong enough to maintain it's own weight, plus the weight of the sub and contents (water, people, etc), and a way to attach it which I'm guessing this thing didn't have.
 

manly

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I doubt the passengers would have opted to go, had they known these facts. But if they did, wow, they must have wanted a fancy underwater drowning death badly.
@KMFJD posted a CBS News segment in post #6, with noted tech author David Pogue reporting on what it was like to take this vessel down to the Titanic. So it's not like the facts are heavily concealed or anything. Heck, that piece might have inadvertently served as free advertising for this excursion. :rolleyes:
 

skyking

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You'd need a ship with that much cable that was strong enough to maintain it's own weight, plus the weight of the sub and contents (water, people, etc), and a way to attach it which I'm guessing this thing didn't have.
It will be neutrally bouyant if it is intact, so the mass of it only pertains to sea conditions when you try to haul it up. Rough seas are bad for that kind of thing.
If it popped it will likely be right where it was going, and it will add to the mystique of the story.
 

Captante

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I saw a report that stated that the Titan could remain submerged for 96 hours and I thought I've got news for you, it can remain submerged a whole lot longer than that.

Infinitely in fact! :p :oops:

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[DHT]Osiris

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It will be neutrally bouyant if it is intact, so the mass of it only pertains to sea conditions when you try to haul it up. Rough seas are bad for that kind of thing.
If it popped it will likely be right where it was going, and it will add to the mystique of the story.
Is buoyancy normalized at all depths? Water doesn't compressed so my smart-lizard brain says it should be equally buoyant... Either way, you still gotta attach a string to something, with something. Not like you're gonna snag it dredging the bottom.
 
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zinfamous

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Infinitely in fact! :p :oops:

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Nah, the oceans will boil off before we ever get to infinity, thus no longer submerged.

Anyway, I can't really find much humor in all of this, only to say that it looks like these folks wanted to pay for their own intimate version of Fyre Fest, at the bottom of the Atlantic, when they booked that thing.

At least the Fyre Fest people can legitimately argue that they were scammed.
 
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Damn. Can you imagine the poor souls in the sub watching the pilot with this thing.
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Allegedly, that's one of the least unusual things about the craft. Those types of controllers are apparently widespread in many pieces of US military equipment according to some articles.
 
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A steel cable as you suggest would weigh around 1 pound per foot or more, or more than 6 tons, so not feasible.
The wreck site was found using a camera rig towed below a ship, so surely this sub could have been tethered for communication and keeping track of where it is even if you can't pull it back up with that cable.
 

Zorba

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Neither of those is likely to kill you should even the slightest thing go wrong.
Well yeah, the point was people go way out of their way to experience things in person, even when there is a significantly better virtual option available.