londons burning

[HAL9000]

No, I wouldn't. I was under the impression that Chavs were basically the poor disenfranchised, underemployed, mostly uneducated youth. That is was strongly associated with coming from poverty level families that did not have a strong tradition of education.

No not really, a chav is someone of any age who wants to be a gangster, likes to get into fights, does horrible things to cars (mainly hatchbacks) tattoos, hoodies, swears, drinks, smokes. I know chavs age 17 and I know chavs age 60.

They are the exact kind of people that riot because they think it's fun and it makes them look cool in their mind.

 

[SMOGZINN]

No not really, a chav is someone of any age who wants to be a gangster, likes to get into fights, does horrible things to cars (mainly hatchbacks) tattoos, hoodies, swears, drinks, smokes. I know chavs age 17 and I know chavs age 60.

They are the exact kind of people that riot because they think it's fun and it makes them look cool in their mind.

No one ever told me the UK had a large population of rednecks!

 

[HAL9000]

No one ever told me the UK had a large population of rednecks!

We do, we just call them chavs D:

 

[Infohawk]

Crush those trolls!

 

[CanOWorms]

Shamed? That fucker in office is encouraging it just as he's encouraging it here in the states.

Well, the British did mutilate his grandfather's testicles. He probably framed the advisory from the State department.

 

[HAL9000]

Crush those trolls!

I think they are dying from not being fed

 

[CallMeJoe]

....

COW and spidey must hear the same "Magic Voices"...

 

[bfdd]

someone explain to me why it's not taboo to use stereotype for social discrimination, but taboo for racial discrimination?

 

[Infohawk]

I think they are dying from not being fed

 

[MotF Bane]

I think they are dying from not being fed

I would have thought I'd fed them enough for one night.

 

[CanOWorms]

This is a good article for many of the far-right here.

Dismissing riots as ‘meaningless criminality’ a mistake, academic warns

He said work at Liverpool on the effective policing of riots had shown that the best approaches rely not on the reactive use of force, but instead “prioritize proactive interventions based upon dialogue as a means for building and maintaining police legitimacy”.

Professor Stott added: “Our argument is that to render the riots meaningless is actually to deny the opportunity that we must take to understand them if we are to take the appropriate measures that will prevent them in the future.”

Open a conversation with the protesters and address their reasonable grievances.

 

[SMOGZINN]

someone explain to me why it's not taboo to use stereotype for social discrimination, but taboo for racial discrimination?

When a person chooses zir social class, then it is not discrimination to call them out on making a poor choice, but if someone is born into a social situation that is nearly impossible to escape from then it is discrimination.

The question is does Chav's choose to be a Chav, or is it a socio-economic lock in. I admit I don't have enough knowledge to make that determination.

I just equated them to rednecks, and I know that most rednecks are born into a socio-economic system that actively discourages education and intelligent thought all the while pushing fanatical religious dogma, giving them almost no chance at escaping the social and economic roundabout. It sounds like Chavs might not be in the same situation.

 

[yours truly]

A found a wonderful ray of light coming from Tehran:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/09/uk-riots-iran-condemns-police

A prominent conservative MP said Iran was ready to dispatch a group of experts to investigate "human rights violations" in the UK.

shit..lol

 

[CanOWorms]

A found a wonderful ray of light coming from Tehran:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/09/uk-riots-iran-condemns-police



shit..lol

Having some international monitors would be nice.

 

[Doppel]

This is a good article for many of the far-right here.

Dismissing riots as ‘meaningless criminality’ a mistake, academic warns



Open a conversation with the protesters and address their reasonable grievances.

You cannot open a dialog with a headless entity. The only way to open a dialog with these people is by mounting dozens of police on horses and giving them polo sticks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ing-for-life-after-challenging-arsonists.html

I hope those arrested are not let off with wrist slappings.

This is what the rioters should see:

 

[HAL9000]

I would have thought I'd fed them enough for one night.

You'd have thought wouldn't you but he's still putting bait out in the hope that someone will feed him.

 

[MotF Bane]

A found a wonderful ray of light coming from Tehran:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/09/uk-riots-iran-condemns-police



shit..lol

Hahaha. Yeah, sure thing, Tehran.

 

[yours truly]

Having some international monitors would be nice.

Yeah come on over and monitor whilst they pelt you with bricks.

You know what the police have done for 4 days? stood there and took it.

Apparently not any more:

"The Government also discussed introducing CS gas and water cannon to break up disturbances in future – a move which would end a 180-year tradition of "minimum force" public order policing in Britain."

 

[Doppel]

"The Government also discussed introducing CS gas and water cannon to break up disturbances in future – a move which would end a 180-year tradition of "minimum force" public order policing in Britain."

Then who can now say the government hasn't changed policy as a result of the rioting? They should be proud of themselves.

 

[CanOWorms]

You cannot open a dialog with a headless entity. The only way to open a dialog with these people is by mounting dozens of police on horses and giving them polo sticks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ing-for-life-after-challenging-arsonists.html

I hope those arrested are not let off with wrist slappings.

It will be more difficult to get a hold of the situation with the start of the protests, but once everything is calmed down (through the protests losing stream, being crushed, or toppling the government), the issues can be addressed by opening dialogue with community organizations and individuals in strong social positions.

This is what the rioters should see:

Maybe that is what the Queen will see if the protesters manage to gain control of an armory.

 

[CanOWorms]

Yeah come on over and monitor whilst they pelt you with bricks.

You know what the police have done for 4 days? stood there and took it.

Apparently not any more:

"The Government also discussed introducing CS gas and water cannon to break up disturbances in future – a move which would end a 180-year tradition of "minimum force" public order policing in Britain."

I think that people are asking for international monitoring of the governmental forces, not the protesters.

 

[CanOWorms]

Hahaha. Yeah, sure thing, Tehran.

Iran may be ridiculous, but the idea is not. Many international human rights organizations can be tapped to monitor the regime's forces.

 

[Nebor]

I think that people are asking for international monitoring of the governmental forces, not the protesters.

 

[Nebor]

Iran may be ridiculous, but the idea is not. Many international human rights organizations can be tapped to monitor the regime's forces.

 

[MotF Bane]

Iran may be ridiculous, but the idea is not. Many international human rights organizations can be tapped to monitor the regime's forces.

I didn't think Iran let a lot of organizations in to monitor its regime.