Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse - $66.99 Shipped - Amazon.com

mike2fix

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The MX510 is awesome, very responsive and the MX1000 is supposed to use the same engine for the laser.
 

50

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Quick question, does the laser affect wood desks as optical mice do (you know when they kind of take the finish off the desk)? Thanks
 

Ketteringo

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Originally posted by: 50
Quick question, does the laser affect wood desks as optical mice do (you know when they kind of take the finish off the desk)? Thanks

If they have the same teflon feet, then yes.

I would assume the 1000 has similar feet to the 700 or 500.
 

dnuggett

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Hmmm.. reading the reviews on Amazon it looks like it may be no good for gaming.
 

fleshconsumed

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Well, majority of the bad reviews site bad drivers, but this has always been a problem with logitech, their drivers always sucked so this is nothing new.

What I'm more concerned about is actually non-replacable? battery. I looked more carefully at the pictures at 3DGPU http://3dgpu.com/forums/index....showtopic=310&st=0 and indeed there are no screws or any indication at the bottom of the mouse that the battery can be replaced... :0 Why the hell do they do it? Why apple places non-removable batteries in their ipods? Why creative also started using non-replacable batteries with its zen touch? And now this? Mice with no replacable battery? Screw them...
 

cownipples

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The screws for the mouse are under the teflon runners. the mouse can be taken apart for battery replacement!
 

Trikat

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From that site you gave:

I received mine from Newegg today and have yet to test battery length fully. No doubt it is longer than the MX700 and since it uses Lithium Ion for a power cell there is no ?memory effect? associated with nickel cadmium and nickel metal hydride batteries. (Memory effect: partially discharging and recharging causes the battery to think that is its true life cycle for power.)

No need to change the batteries is the bottom line.
 

diablonhn

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Lithium ion batteries do die, arguably quicker than NIMH batteries, many people with laptops 2-3 years old have dead like a door nail LiOn batteries

Originally posted by: Trikat
From that site you gave:

I received mine from Newegg today and have yet to test battery length fully. No doubt it is longer than the MX700 and since it uses Lithium Ion for a power cell there is no ?memory effect? associated with nickel cadmium and nickel metal hydride batteries. (Memory effect: partially discharging and recharging causes the battery to think that is its true life cycle for power.)

No need to change the batteries is the bottom line.

 

Mucker

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Proprietary batteries suck period. Apple is laughing all the way to the bank with iPod battery sales. Clearly they knew what they were doing when designing these players. Litihium ion battries are not cheap, you will probably be able to buy another MX1000 for the cost of the battery alone, or they will probably find the price point where the battery will just be affordable enough. It is win-win for them. I like my MX700 with 2200maH batteries. Lasts long and they do not have a bad memory effect, I've had the same batteries inside for a year with no noticeable degradation to the batteries. NiCad batteries are the ones to stay far away from. I steered clear of the iPod's in favor of an iRiver 195TC flash player. Although I realize the laser mouse requires a powerful battery compared to a conventional optical mouse, I don't think the MX-1000 is in my future although I am a big fan of logitech (except for that miserable F-Lock fiasco). No mechanical parts and no proprietary batteries. That is the direction I go for whenever possible........

m
 

fleshconsumed

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Originally posted by: cownipples
The screws for the mouse are under the teflon runners. the mouse can be taken apart for battery replacement!

You do realize that one, it will be a pain in the ass to find exact same battery used in mx1000 (if not outright impossible) and two those teflon feet are glued to the mouse base, once you remove them, even if you put them back they are not going to hold as strong as before?

Mucker also brought up a good point that LiIon are quite expensive and die rather quickly. Cell phone batteries die within a year with a moderate use and cost $30-40 to replace, that's more than you can get new MX700 right now. Even if logitech provide LiIon battery for sale I doubt it will be less than $19.99+S&H and you'll probably have to replace it every year or two.
 

Imyourzero

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I think this mouse is a huge waste of money for most people. Logitech is counting on people saying "Oooooh OMG OMG must have the nifty new cool LAZER MOUSE!!!11" but it's no more accurate than the MX700/MX500. The main "draw" is that the laser will work on more surfaces than a standard LED optical mouse. That's it. I don't know about you guys, but unless you try to use an optical mouse on a mirror or on glass, you shouldn't really have that much trouble with its tracking abilities. I'm sure as heck not gonna shell out $70+ for a mouse that won't be any more accurate than my MX700 and doesn't have replaceable batteries, with the only advantage being that it works on more surfaces.

If you guys want a more accurate mouse, why not spend less and get an MX510 or a Laser Viper or Boomslang? This new laser mouse is being hyped for no reason IMO.
 

everman

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What is the warrenty from logitech on this? ie: if the battery dies in 9 months will they replace it?

Edit: It is now in stock at Newegg, just got notification. $85 though, newegg kinda sucks for good prices on these kinds of things :( needless to say I'll way for a better price.
 

straubs

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Well, majority of the bad reviews site bad drivers, but this has always been a problem with logitech, their drivers always sucked so this is nothing new.


Here's the key to using Logitech's awesome MX series mice: Don't install the drivers.
That's it! Just plug it in and go.

I've been using my MX700 for about 8 months w/o any drivers and I certainly haven't needed them.
 

brunswickite

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Originally posted by: Mucker
Proprietary batteries suck period. Apple is laughing all the way to the bank with iPod battery sales. Clearly they knew what they were doing when designing these players. Litihium ion battries are not cheap, you will probably be able to buy another MX1000 for the cost of the battery alone, or they will probably find the price point where the battery will just be affordable enough. It is win-win for them. I like my MX700 with 2200maH batteries. Lasts long and they do not have a bad memory effect, I've had the same batteries inside for a year with no noticeable degradation to the batteries. NiCad batteries are the ones to stay far away from. I steered clear of the iPod's in favor of an iRiver 195TC flash player. Although I realize the laser mouse requires a powerful battery compared to a conventional optical mouse, I don't think the MX-1000 is in my future although I am a big fan of logitech (except for that miserable F-Lock fiasco). No mechanical parts and no proprietary batteries. That is the direction I go for whenever possible........

m

this is true, very well said
 

fleshconsumed

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Imyouzero
I'm sure as heck not gonna shell out $70+ for a mouse that won't be any more accurate than my MX700 and doesn't have replaceable batteries, with the only advantage being that it works on more surfaces.
It depends on each person. I kind of like the new redesign and how buttons are positioned but non-replacable battery and horrible non-functional drivers drivers suck big time.

straubs
If I buy a 7-button mouse I would like to use all 7 buttons, not just standard 3 or 4 (don't remember exactly) that work by default with mx700.
 

Averox

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On second thought I just canceled my order. I've been buying a bit of crap lately and it does indeed sound like this mouse is being plagued with some problems, on top of that whole battery fiasco. I guess if I do go wireless, it'd be an MX700?
 

Averox

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After further investigation, there seems to be a mix of people who are getting delay issues and those who aren't. I can't risk ordering it online though and finding out. I'd probably want to go to a CompUSSR and asking to test it out there and they'd probably be giving me evil-eye looks if I did. Better than waste an hour round trip driving back and forth though.
 

gimpsoft

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i learn from all those people saying buy a MX700 wireless it does not lag @ gaming
it was a piece of **** a $70 mistake

don't buy wireless not worth it
happy with an MX510