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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-16490602

Thought you guys might find this interesting and it shows us on a completely different page to you.

Five Muslim men from Derby have gone on trial for allegedly handing out leaflets calling for gay people to be killed in the first ever prosecution under new legislation making such actions a hate crime...
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...They are accused of stirring up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation
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Err why do you need special laws for that in particular? I'm pretty sure you go to jail if you hand out leaflets calling for anyone to get killed.
 
halik said:
Err why do you need special laws for that in particular? I'm pretty sure you go to jail if you hand out leaflets calling for anyone to get killed.
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The law isn't specifically for calling for people to be killed it's for in-sighting hatred for a specific sexual orientation.
 
How is it ever a good idea to walk around trying to convince people to commit murder? However, if gay people walk around and try to convert your children to be gay, that perfectly acceptable.

This is just my comment on society in general terms. I am trying to be sarcastic.

When people try to control other people that is where your freedom ends. It does not matter if they are religious zealots, Gays, or the government.

How is this different from protestants and catholics?
 
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piasabird said:
How is it ever a good idea to walk around trying to convince people to commit murder? However, if gay people walk around and try to convert your children to be gay, that perfectly acceptable.

This is just my comment on society in general terms. I am trying to be sarcastic.

When people try to control other people that is where your freedom ends. It does not matter if they are religious zealots, Gays, or the government.
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So how many gays tried to convert you as a child? How many of your friends... a nonsense statement.
 
HAL9000 said:
Thought you guys might find this interesting and it shows us on a completely different page to you.
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I find it interesting that the British people pick and choose what parts of sharia law are and are not tolerated.

I guess when muslims put these signs up in London, yall thought they were joking? The sign clearly says you are entering a sharia controlled zone, so what is the issue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN6CHtGGo4g

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3718799/London-suburb-put-under-Sharia-law.html

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HamburgerBoy said:
To be fair, does the WBC ever call for human-on-human murder of gays? It seems like it's always "God will kill you!" or "God hates you!" or "You will burn in hell, sodomite!" but never "I will kill you!"
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Yup, which is exactly what the individuals in the article are accused of from reading the article itself.

Actually it almost seems step by step the methods used by WBC.
 
piasabird said:
How is it ever a good idea to walk around trying to convince people to commit murder? However, if gay people walk around and try to convert your children to be gay, that perfectly acceptable.

This is just my comment on society in general terms. I am trying to be sarcastic.

When people try to control other people that is where your freedom ends. It does not matter if they are religious zealots, Gays, or the government.

How is this different from protestants and catholics?
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Sorry, what gay people are wandering round trying to convince children to be gay? I think you've confused gay and pedophile...

jackschmittusa said:
I've never been a fan of "hate crime" laws. Seems too much like "thought police" to me.
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I think it's a good idea, though I can see your point.

Texashiker said:
I find it interesting that the British people pick and choose what parts of sharia law are and are not tolerated.

I guess when muslims put these signs up in London, yall thought they were joking? The sign clearly says you are entering a sharia controlled zone, so what is the issue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN6CHtGGo4g

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3718799/London-suburb-put-under-Sharia-law.html

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Those signs are legally valid, they mean nothing, it doesn't matter if they were joking or not...
 
HAL9000 said:
Those signs are legally valid, they mean nothing, it doesn't matter if they were joking or not...
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So its ok to spew hate towards drinking, gambling, porn,,,, just do not say anything about gays?

Its ok for muslims to harass women who show too much skin, just do not harass gays?
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
If by "different page" you mean you finally caught up to us, then yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard_and_James_Byrd,_Jr._Hate_Crimes_Prevention_Act
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No, we are ahead of you, that just allows you to specify a crime related to sexual orientation, ours limits speech.

PokerGuy said:
Just more proof of how the british hate freedom and have surrendered their free speech rights to the PC mentality.
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We have free speech, we also have freedom from speech, which is equally important
 
yeah, bunch of religious fanatics going after gay people in Britain! wow that really very interesting, please, tell me more, I am hooked.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
Yup, which is exactly what the individuals in the article are accused of from reading the article itself.

Actually it almost seems step by step the methods used by WBC.
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To be fair I judged just based on the snippet the op posted, but the first leaflet of a drawing of a hanging isn't really the same as showing stick figures of two men having sex with "GOING TO HELL" written on top. The other three, I agree with you being no different from the WBC.
 
HAL9000 said:
Yes. Gays or any kind of minority.
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When are honor killings going to be designated as a hate crime?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3269926&page=1#.Tw9DBlbnupQ

Or is it ok for a minority group it commit crimes against itself, but can not commit crimes against other groups?


DesiPower said:
yeah, bunch of religious fanatics going after gay people in Britain! wow that really very interesting, please, tell me more, I am hooked.
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You do not see enough of that on the local news every night?
 
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