Llano part numbers and specs including clock speeds and TDPs leaked

[gramboh]

Cool stuff, would be awesome for HTPC, streaming type devices, notebooks. Wonder if Apple would ever use AMD...

 

[podspi]

Cool stuff, would be awesome for HTPC, streaming type devices, notebooks. Wonder if Apple would ever use AMD...

Technically they already do, just not AMD CPUs


I was thinking Llano would be a clear winner in some lower-end Macbooks, but I think they will stay Intel exclusive. It gets them things like Thunderbolt early and I'm sure other perks as well.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

It gets them things like Thunderbolt early and I'm sure other perks as well.

We all know what kind of 'perks' manufacturers receive for staying Intel-exclusive.

 

[Idontcare]

We all know what kind of 'perks' manufacturers receive for staying Intel-exclusive.

I thought that practice was phased out as one of the agreements of the latest round of billion-dollar settlements?

I always wondered what kind of 'perks' McDonalds received for staying Coke-exclusive.

 

[RyanGreener]

Most of the general public seems to think that Apple is of the highest quality and I think that if Apple started using AMD, it might help the image of AMD.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

I thought that practice was phased out as one of the agreements of the latest round of billion-dollar settlements?

I think the bolded part of your question answers your question.

I always wondered what kind of 'perks' McDonalds received for staying Coke-exclusive.

Coke-exclusive franchisees get free syrup, plain and simple. That's a decades-old strategy that is legal in the United States. It's not at all similar to what Intel's done in the past.

 

[piesquared]

I thought that practice was phased out as one of the agreements of the latest round of billion-dollar settlements?

I always wondered what kind of 'perks' McDonalds received for staying Coke-exclusive.

Well for one thing it' legal. And for another, consumers have the choice to go to quiznos, panera bread, panda express, taco bell, KFC, pizza hut, long john silvers, fuddruckers, BJ's, little caesars, etc. etc., if they don't like coke.

 

[RobertPters77]

I'm hoping that Llano will drive down the Prices of Sandy Bridge notebooks so that I can finally get a worthy replacement for my G73 at a great price.

But I'm left wondering if there will be Bulldozer mobile cpus? If not then I guess llano type APUs completely replacing all of Amd's mobile cpu offerings.

 

[Arkadrel]

http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/10/11_99185.html

From a chinese rumor site:

A8-3850, that has to be a 100watt desktop version of a Llano right?

 

[lol123]

Well for one thing it' legal. And for another, consumers have the choice to go to quiznos, panera bread, panda express, taco bell, KFC, pizza hut, long john silvers, fuddruckers, BJ's, little caesars, etc. etc., if they don't like coke.

And likewise the industry, and to a more limited extent consumers, have had and still have the choice to go with PowerPC, ARM, MIPS or SPARC instead of x86 processors primarily from Intel. There is a licensing agreement with AMD and there have undoubtedly been some unlawful practices, but let's not forget that Intel created the x86 architecture and basically owns it just like ARM Holdings owns the rights to ARM and IBM owns the Power architectures and they have every right to dictate the terms of sales of x86 processors within legal bounds.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I think the bolded part of your question answers your question.



Coke-exclusive franchisees get free syrup, plain and simple. That's a decades-old strategy that is legal in the United States. It's not at all similar to what Intel's done in the past.

Maybe I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHATS BEING SAID HERE . OR Someone doesn't . I didn't no Apple OS = TO MS OS. The agreement that was reached . Was with X86 on MS. Windows . I was unaware that Apple was a monoply using x86 . Know as Apple gains market share in phones and tablets . They may become a monoply using ARM devices.

Than we just jumped over the fact that Intel Apple announced publicly that it was a joint venture were thunderbolt is concerned. I may have that wrong .

 

[OCGuy]

Well for one thing it' legal. And for another, consumers have the choice to go to quiznos, panera bread, panda express, taco bell, KFC, pizza hut, long john silvers, fuddruckers, BJ's, little caesars, etc. etc., if they don't like coke.

Using a food analogy, why go with AMD (Mcdonald's) when for just a tad more you can go to a steakhouse?

Yes they will both accomplish the same thing by filling you up, but one is just oh so much better...

 

[GaiaHunter]

Well for one thing it' legal. And for another, consumers have the choice to go to quiznos, panera bread, panda express, taco bell, KFC, pizza hut, long john silvers, fuddruckers, BJ's, little caesars, etc. etc., if they don't like coke.

You are doing that analogy wrong.

McDonalds sells burgers. I can go buy whatever burger I want from McDonalds without buying any drinks.

 

[piesquared]

Using a food analogy, why go with AMD (Mcdonald's) when for just a tad more you can go to a steakhouse?

Yes they will both accomplish the same thing by filling you up, but one is just oh so much better...

Well I was following IDC's analogy, where Mcdonalds is selling intel.

And to complete the analogy, I would go to another franchise if I didn't want Coke. Unfortunately, no other ranchises sold AMD.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Maybe I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHATS BEING SAID HERE . OR Someone doesn't . I didn't no Apple OS = TO MS OS. The agreement that was reached . Was with X86 on MS. Windows . I was unaware that Apple was a monoply using x86 . Know as Apple gains market share in phones and tablets . They may become a monoply using ARM devices.

Than we just jumped over the fact that Intel Apple announced publicly that it was a joint venture were thunderbolt is concerned. I may have that wrong .

Is English your native language? I rarely understand anything you say but this post in particular is not only nearly indecipherable, it's completely irrelevant...

 

[Nemesis 1]

Thats it . Thats all you have is a dig on word usage very very vary strange .

Break it down for ya so ya get it.

1) MS monoply Apple not a monoply.

2) Intel /Apple worked together on thunderbolt . Apples has research dollars also.

3) Apple could become a monopoly in the ARM sector of the market


Strange World .

OIL cartel fixes pricies and production . But that legal and the oil that comes from beneath the ground belongs to who on whos authority . A RICH MANS AUTHORITY.
Diamonds cartel . Pricies are fixed on whats basicly a gem without any real value or rarity. Russia has diamonds up the yang. But its british money and the EU supporting a fleecing of the world .
I could go on and on but you would still fail to see the truth.

 

[Nemesis 1]

We all know what kind of 'perks' manufacturers receive for staying Intel-exclusive.

Yes we do . Dell is a good example . When intel exclusive they were the number 1 maker of PC's until they let AMD into the game . How the mighty have fallen.

Apple is Intel exclusive down to tablets . So how has Apple done in the market since they went intel . Expanding or contracting? Intel the empire builder . AMD the destroyer of empires. Didn't HP always sell AMD. Look how close they are to intel . Isn't HP number one now? Also the I can go somewhere else to buy my coke just doesn't work you could go to HP . Dell couldn't commit to AMD as it was empire building and AMD suppling it all its CPus was nonsense as Intel would not have made sure Dells bins were full . Intel has that right period . They can't be forced to supply one company and overlook another company in legal terms almost impossiable to prove. You couldn't buy AMD from Dell you had the choice of AMD from HP is that not so.

 

[piesquared]

Yes we do . Dell is a good example . When intel exclusive they were the number 1 maker of PC's until they let AMD into the game . How the mighty have fallen.

When intel exclusive they were the number 1 maker of PC's until the $5 Billion bribes surfaced.

Fixed/

 

[Nemesis 1]

Link to 5 billion dollar bribe or it didn't happen. Intel would have been smarter to pay AMD not to make cpus . That would have made more profits for both companies. Can't wait to see how AMDs gate first works out. Intel wouldn't go there.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Yes we do . Dell is a good example . When intel exclusive they were the number 1 maker of PC's until they let AMD into the game . How the mighty have fallen.

Apple is Intel exclusive down to tablets . So how has Apple done in the market since they went intel . Expanding or contracting? Intel the empire builder . AMD the destroyer of empires.

This is so abysmally stupid and simple-minded it's not even worth a reply. You're either a troll or borderline retarded. From the way you write, I'm guessing the latter.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Link to 5 billion dollar bribe or it didn't happen. Intel would have been smarter to pay AMD not to make cpus . That would have made more profits for both companies. Can't wait to see how AMDs gate first works out. Intel wouldn't go there.

Look, I know you're a pretty rabid Intel fanboy, but come on, this was big news.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/23/technology/dell_intel/index.htm

The payments totaled $4.3 billion between 2003 and 2006

Oh, sorry, it was $4.3 billion, but that was just 2003-2006, and there was evidence of Intel paying other companies as well.

 

[Nemesis 1]

This is so abysmally stupid and simple-minded it's not even worth a reply. You're either a troll or borderline retarded. From the way you write, I'm guessing the latter.

ME . Look fella forum rules in these sections are NO PERSONNAL INSULTS what part don't you understand? Even tho I don't take it as such the mods will. So keep it clean OK.

Look your backing a loser . I am backing the winner. Don't take it so hard its only hardware for cring outload. Until AMD dethrowns Intel you have only dreams to hang your hat on .

 

[Zap]

Look, I know you're a pretty rabid Intel fanboy, but come on, this was big news.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/23/technology/dell_intel/index.htm



Oh, sorry, it was $4.3 billion, but that was just 2003-2006, and there was evidence of Intel paying other companies as well.

I wonder if that was above/beyond the normal Intel channel rebates?

 

[hans007]

This is so abysmally stupid and simple-minded it's not even worth a reply. You're either a troll or borderline retarded. From the way you write, I'm guessing the latter.

on top of that... dell only lost #1 because hp bought compaq.

and uh hp and compaq both were early AMD adopters..

 

[Jionix]

Dell falling in the market has nothing to do with their (rather paltry) adaption of AMD, and anyone who suggests such is simply spouting misguided, blantant fanboy drek.

Dell fell because of stiff competition in all sectors --- mobile, desktop, and servers. Stiff competition, particularly in the retail sectors from rising Asus and their inexpensive alternatives, the appearance of falling quality and customer support, and also aggressive pricing on the business to business sector where HP basically made the stance (in late 2008/early 2009) of "if we're bidding against Dell, we'll do whatever it takes".

Dell also took a slide because of how they ran their buisness model in the contract sector --- They used to rule their sales with an iron grip, side-stepping resellers and distributors and taking any and all business direct, whether it was corporate, public sector, health care, or government. This put Dell at a huge disadvantage compared to HP, Lenovo, and Asus. Now their tone has changed, and they are trying to play catch up on the reseller side, while still struggling to deal with internal politics in their sales force (their internal model now, which features both direct and in-direct sales, almost compete against eachother, making them extremely difficult to work with depending on the customer).

I know this because that is what I do (national sales for a large retail and contract/business to business reseller).