little kitchen "refresh" project in the works

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herm0016

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just get longer screws for the outlets. no big deal there. the faucet... yea, that's an issue that should have been planned out. you could remove the drywall behind the faucet, below the window and drop it back 1/2 in. but it makes for some weird joints on each side of the window. I think you could get away with doing the shiplap to the base board just around the stove, maybe do the whole wall to the celling. could look fun.
 

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just get longer screws for the outlets. no big deal there. the faucet... yea, that's an issue that should have been planned out. you could remove the drywall behind the faucet, below the window and drop it back 1/2 in. but it makes for some weird joints on each side of the window. I think you could get away with doing the shiplap to the base board just around the stove, maybe do the whole wall to the celling. could look fun.

You think longer screws and putting the "tabs" of the outlet/switch itself on the front face of the board will be Ok? I just feel like it should be inside some soft of "enclosure" ya know?
The faucet is remediable by just turning the base like 15* and the handle then doesn't hit. It's lathe and plaster too, so cutting out out and dropping it back would be decent sized undertaking. I will work that out with the plumber tonight I guess. The dumb shiplap (even if it was tile I'd have the same issue) is going to give me an anxiety breakdown :)
 

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Backsplash...they put a 4" one, pic. Realized that lots of water was getting splashed on the sheet rock above and it wasn't going to last very long. Had them cut a 3" piece, about half the thickness of the 1st one and added it, no pic. 7(?) years ago.
 

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herm0016

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not if there is a cover on it. haha. yea, those will work too. long as they are the right depth. i have not seen one exactly like that before.
 
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not if there is a cover on it. haha. yea, those will work too. long as they are the right depth. i have not seen one exactly like that before.

I'm guessing they take longer screws too. But maybe the come with them
Regardless, 100th trip to Home Depot today after work! Need paneling adhesive too.
 

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Guess everyone is saying that this is out of style. Meh I guess I don't know what style is anymore lol.

Our kitchen has subway tile all the way to the countertop, but if I wasn't tiling, having some small countertop lip is probably what I'd go with. Putting wood down to the countertop and adding trim of some sort seems a bit funkier to me.
 

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Guess everyone is saying that this is out of style. Meh I guess I don't know what style is anymore lol.

Our kitchen has subway tile all the way to the countertop, but if I wasn't tiling, having some small countertop lip is probably what I'd go with. Putting wood down to the countertop and adding trim of some sort seems a bit funkier to me.
Well, they don't know shit. Pic below was out of style. 1937. :D
 

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Guess everyone is saying that this is out of style. Meh I guess I don't know what style is anymore lol.

Our kitchen has subway tile all the way to the countertop, but if I wasn't tiling, having some small countertop lip is probably what I'd go with. Putting wood down to the countertop and adding trim of some sort seems a bit funkier to me.

The wood is a bit "riskier" but honestly, we're not slobbering and sloshing water around the sink everywhere. No dogs or babies being washed in the basin. I can't think of the last time we've had standing water that needed to be wiped up on the counters. Certainly we'll be a little more careful than normal but as long as the wood is primed, painted (and likley sealed) with a good caulk bead I can't imagine any problems. And worst case is we rip it out in a few years and replace it with the next trend (or just sell the damned house). Whole lot of wood cost me like $90 so not even a waste of money.

Plumber came last night to install sink/faucet (FINALLY found a guy that knows what he's doing and does side-jobs for cash) so we're back in business there. Switched from air-gap to high-loop too so that's a nice little change.
 
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That extra countertop going a couple inches up is definitely out of style now. Take that with a grain of salt as style is often just used as a way to sell you things.

However, I think it's definitely fugly. I was in a couple units that had that this year and it stood out as not attractive in the kitchen.
 
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That extra countertop going a couple inches up is definitely out of style now. Take that with a grain of salt as style is often just used as a way to sell you things.

However, I think it's definitely fugly. I was in a couple units that had that this year and it stood out as not attractive in the kitchen.

It IS functional. But no question 100% out of vogue. You won't find it on any showroom, or Pinterest picture :)
 

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This is what you need.

That seems too deep. Only need to pic up 1/2"
I put one in last night and just put the tabs on the outside of the shiplap. Seemed to work Ok.
 

MrSquished

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It IS functional. But no question 100% out of vogue. You won't find it on any showroom, or Pinterest picture :)
Yeah I see a lot of new construction and gut Reno stuff and you'll never see that. That hasn't really been in style in awhile.

Now, some of those newly designed joints have really questionable taste in what they choose to put as a backsplash sometimes. And some of their light fixtures are wack too. There is no accounting for taste
 

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Yeah I see a lot of new construction and gut Reno stuff and you'll never see that. That hasn't really been in style in awhile.

Now, some of those newly designed joints have really questionable taste in what they choose to put as a backsplash sometimes. And some of their light fixtures are wack too. There is no accounting for taste

Like shiplap? :)

I don't mind other people's taste for the most part. If we all had the same thing life would be boring and dull.
 
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It IS functional. But no question 100% out of vogue. You won't find it on any showroom, or Pinterest picture :)
You are doing it right. Do your kitchen the way you want if and enjoy.
People get waaaaaay too hung up on resale value and that is close to irrelevant. You will never predict what a buyer wants, never.
Upgrade or repair as you see fit and what works for you.
Also don’t do all this stuff immediately before selling, do stuff so you can enjoy it.
Only stuff you should do for selling is fix anything that is broken and definitely something that is unsafe (steps, railings, your broken deck board) and price accordingly. Fixing or upgrading stuff in your home before sale is almost always a loss, unless you are like @Greenman and can replace stuff at cost.
 

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You are doing it right. Do your kitchen the way you want if and enjoy.
People get waaaaaay too hung up on resale value and that is close to irrelevant. You will never predict what a buyer wants, never.
Upgrade or repair as you see fit and what works for you.
Also don’t do all this stuff immediately before selling, do stuff so you can enjoy it.
Only stuff you should do for selling is fix anything that is broken and definitely something that is unsafe (steps, railings, your broken deck board) and price accordingly. Fixing or upgrading stuff in your home before sale is almost always a loss, unless you are like @Greenman and can replace stuff at cost.

Oh trust me, everything we've done in our house since we moved in (including the initial kitchen update 20 years ago) has been to OUR tastes - which is often a little against the 'norm" I can't imagine putting in beige and sandstone everything because it's neutral and easy for resell etc etc. Just too boring. When we bought our house we didn't want a "perfectly new house" as we wanted to make it our own. And when we sell, that's the same approach I will take. We don't plan on selling any time soon, but our neighborhood has done nothing but increase every year - our house is worth over double what we paid for it. And houses sell in a weekend for 10%+ over asking price - this isn't the current market, this is just our location.
 
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Oh trust me, everything we've done in our house since we moved in (including the initial kitchen update 20 years ago) has been to OUR tastes - which is often a little against the 'norm" I can't imagine putting in beige and sandstone everything because it's neutral and easy for resell etc etc. Just too boring. When we bought our house we didn't want a "perfectly new house" as we wanted to make it our own. And when we sell, that's the same approach I will take. We don't plan on selling any time soon, but our neighborhood has done nothing but increase every year - our house is worth over double what we paid for it. And houses sell in a weekend for 10%+ over asking price - this isn't the current market, this is just our location.

Yup, similar here. We wanted a cute small(ish) house.
We ended up with a 1960 1180 square foot ranch. Flipped home from three years before nice kitchen and functional bathroom.
We are pretty damn satisfied with it.
Similar home 7 doors down the street sold first weekend $45k over asking. They had an $80k over asking but that offer was suspicious, concern was buyers were putting in a big offer then going to nag about everything.
Yes that scenario happens. The telltale sign is extensive inspections as in standard home inspection, plus electrical inspection, plus foundation inspection and whatever else.
 
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Like shiplap? :)

I don't mind other people's taste for the most part. If we all had the same thing life would be boring and dull.
No, not shiplap. I was in a newly renovated place the other week with shiplap in the bathroom and it was gorgeous. I meant usually these overly ornate patterned tile backsplashes can sometimes just be too much.
 

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No, not shiplap. I was in a newly renovated place the other week with shiplap in the bathroom and it was gorgeous. I meant usually these overly ornate patterned tile backsplashes can sometimes just be too much.

Oh yeah - I hate that junk. And don't even get me started on glass tile. Again, to each their own and I welcome differences in taste but so much stuff is just not for me.
 
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