TurtleCrusher
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Just pointing out facts to people who are intrested friendo.
I was just showing one of wiki's sources was illy off in terms credability. Kinda like there experts opinions, you know... John Varty? Who stated that a lion is inferior in power because tigers can crunch open turtle shells, an lions cant as he said get it right, due to being weaker?
Uhh...I highly dought thats any where near true, even lion cubs have been recorded crunching open turtle shells...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oibo8kjiwS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7CUBYknjWE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2sMZa9KWBo
Not to mention, it is highly known to any scientist who has stripped the flesh off of study subjects of lions and tigers in measerments that lions and tigers are basically anatomically the same cat with minor centimeters off the average subjective body porportions covered, but in terms skull sizes basic terms show tigers have been recorded having smaller skulls Via potentially weaker bites...
http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/reply/59467/Re-Comparisons-of-Impressive-Tiger-and-Lion-Skulls
Which studys of the past were merely assumptions in what animals ate an went by minor density scales which have never been accurate, the only man to have cultivated Psi on live animals was Brady barr in 2006 with a device he made, which exploited the world of B.S scientist of the past shown being way off in terms of Newtons and Psi Charts, anything before 2006 has been debunked with solid scientifical measerments, you can youtube his show on animal discovery, Braddy barr has tested over 30 different animal bites, an he only tested a juvi female at 600 Psi, he did not test tigers yet nor did he test any adult lions let alone males.
People commonly think that even there jaws are wider which they arnt due to measering the tigers tufts of hair on there cheeks not the actual skull its self. Wikis refferences are all to familar from a certain person on yuku known for faking, repeating an manipulating things, via=Wiki states not one opinion, account, attribute of anything to make you think the lion stands any chance what so ever, when in fact its quite the oposite of every thing wiki covered, its just formated to cover things in pure manipulative denial in whats the magnitude of how much data speaks other wise.
mikeymikec
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Whoa! Just found this one a second ago...
~Print made by George Frederick Watts
1832-1904
"Now I've seen everything!"
"Really? Have you seen a man eat his own head?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj_Wq4pXO_0
WelshBloke
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Most of the Lion vs Tiger stuff is old since we don't do that anymore. Back in the day rich people, leaders, etc would import exotic animals for entertainment or prestige. A King bringing a Lion to court for show would have been a very impressive sight since most people would not only never have seen one but never even have heard of one. It would be like bringing a Unicorn to work today.
Well, its more frowned upoun in our era, but when talking about royalty, theres so many different places in the world so the amount is astrinomical in terms not having every era having a King of some random district own every exotic animal alive. Lions and tigers are just very popular in terms of folklore an past historial records, they define power. As for the historical artifacts, I'm still amazed its such a one way topple...theres literaly every continent on the planet with a artifact recording who was the usual victor, an they majorityly have the lion winning. Its not even close in terms a number comparison, its like 70 vs 7 thats a huge blow out, and I cant imagine all the artifacts an documents yet to be discovered and archived together. lol
WelshBloke
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Wait... you're using those examples of art as factual examples of lions beating tigers in actual fights?
They aren't?!
Damn, that means the statue of myself that I had commissioned isn't reality...
Maybe I can't please 7 women at once with my 4 penises and 3 heads..
Yup, for a number of reasons.
#1 The Majority of them I have found abstracts, remnents, scriptures that linked them to an actual account recorded with multiple sources insure-ing its credability of what exactly happened an how the artifact came to be, you know that list of 150 accounts of documentations a lion has killed a tiger I posted? Uh Huh! some are tied in with them.
#2 Anything before the early-mid 19th century will have more credability due to the fact that there would be no way of an artist other than 2 ways in knowing how either tiger or lion looks like, either by reading a book or the only other way is to see the occaision them selves.
#3 Artist must see events to an extent to capture every detail, espeacially anatomy, body structures catering to movements.
#4 The districts in which they hailed from have 80% historical significance of the main three things which are they have been incorperated animal collections of Menageries which would lead to accidental fights that are well documented via documentations in all forms....2ndly the reigon has had high cultural substance of animal baiting an pitting animals to fight the other which are mere replications of what they saw an who won...3rdly cultural idenity of Indigidous recordings threw art is one of the most highly creditable aspects of records to dispute the natrual that which we have video proof of now in our era, would be hilarious, in terms records show a consistancy with modern documents Via=Video.
Finding out the artist name can provide his world of credability also, most I have archived had visited an were a part of an era where the events from menageries, to venatios an baitings were more abundent being not illegal at the time, hense people like George stubbs had recorded multiple events in multiple places such as his Bio states he went to morrooco, an he went to Italy places at the time where there still was alot of animal match ups incorperating tigers vs lions. Which also his Bio has over 100 websites adding to his credability of alibies of his individual talent out-look, he stated he never liked to copy art, or be inspired by art, he painted experinces of his life an stated nature was his art deco to impliment.
I'm not saying every single one of the artifacts I presented is an account, but they hold merits of substance in being an account, not to mention most have there abstract document showing they were real events.
George Frederick Watts was born in London in 1817. He was frequently ill during childhood and spent a great deal of time in bed drawing stories for himself. His first major success as painter took place in the spring of 1843. Watts entered the competition for the decoration of the Houses of Parliament and won the prize of £300 for his drawing of "Caractacus led Captive through the Streets of Rome." He brilliant depiction of historical personalities impressed the judges and set the stage for a lucrative art career.
Watts used his winnings to travel to Italy where he stayed with expat aristocracy, Lord and Lady Holland. According to Art historian, William Loftus Hare "Italy, and particularly Florence, was perpetual fascination and inspiration to Watts. There he imbibed the influences of Orcagna and Titianinfluences, indeed, which were clearly represented in the next monumental painting which he attempted. It came about that Lord Holland persuaded his guest to enter a fresh competition for the decoration of the Parliament Houses, and Watts carried off the prize with his "Alfred inciting the Saxons to resist the landing of the Danes."
http://www.georgefredericwatts.org/biography.html
You see^ It stated he went to Italy, where its credability is hightened. Why? Because still in that era along with over 30 sources I provided of Italy as in "Rome" they had one of the most abundent animal fights incorperating lions fighting tigers almost rutinely over there exsistance in majoirty time laps in each era.
Fight In Italy Verona a lion defeats tiger
http://books.google.com/books?id=y2...ue+lion+tiger+fight&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html
Again I am not saying every single artifact of the 70 I presented was an actual account but the ones with no abstracts which majority have... can still be traced to an extent of its credability...I really dont care that you dont want to accept it (just because vice versa dosent have the amount to match it) I merely find information on subject an share them.
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Yep, the following artworks also depict interesting history. If the artists didn't see these things themselves, there's no way they could have depicted it so realistically!
Proof that ancient Greek women had dozens of breasts, lucky Greeks:
Proof that ancient bull men existed and were wiped out by humans. Nobody could depict such detail without actually seeing the event with their own eyes.
What's being depicted here? No idea, but given the details, it must be real.
Minotaur vs lion? I'd give it to the minotaur unless the lion was a Nemean lion.
I havent seen these 2 yet...
a golden sculpture of a lion fighting with a Tiger, this art was design in 1845 by Kojo Kofi and it is sold for $7,500.
It*has been confirm that the sculpture was made from 18 karat gold.
The Sculpture measure 4inches W , 6 inches Hand weigh 5 kilogram.
http://www.superfineshine.com/freeantiqueclassified.htm
5 Kg of gold? Jesus, the weight alone is worth more than 8 G's easy.
Production person
Print made by Charles Mackie
1885-1920 (c.)
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An this one...
Description
A tiger and a lion fighting
Colour woodcut
Inscriptions
Inscription Content: Inscribed in grapite within image: "Charles H Mackie Imp./ Charles H Mackie Imp./ Mr Walls del./ 6" Also with Mackie's stamp.
http://www.britishmuseum.org/resear...vanced_search.aspx¤tPage=12&numpages=10
So who knows who these 2 persons have portrayed winning, if any of you wanna do a little research an dig up the artifacts, then by all means, at this point I hope it shows a tiger winning, because that'ell be a shame if I ever reach a 100 for the lion an not even 10 for the tiger.
a golden sculpture of a lion fighting with a Tiger, this art was design in 1845 by Kojo Kofi and it is sold for $7,500.
It*has been confirm that the sculpture was made from 18 karat gold.
The Sculpture measure 4inches W , 6 inches Hand weigh 5 kilogram.
http://www.superfineshine.com/freeantiqueclassified.htm
5 Kg of gold? Jesus, the weight alone is worth more than 8 G's easy.
Production person
Print made by Charles Mackie
1885-1920 (c.)
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An this one...
Description
A tiger and a lion fighting
Colour woodcut
Inscriptions
Inscription Content: Inscribed in grapite within image: "Charles H Mackie Imp./ Charles H Mackie Imp./ Mr Walls del./ 6" Also with Mackie's stamp.
http://www.britishmuseum.org/resear...vanced_search.aspx¤tPage=12&numpages=10
So who knows who these 2 persons have portrayed winning, if any of you wanna do a little research an dig up the artifacts, then by all means, at this point I hope it shows a tiger winning, because that'ell be a shame if I ever reach a 100 for the lion an not even 10 for the tiger.
Yep, the following artworks also depict interesting history. If the artists didn't see these things themselves, there's no way they could have depicted it so realistically!
Proof that ancient Greek women had dozens of breasts, lucky Greeks:
Proof that ancient bull men existed and were wiped out by humans. Nobody could depict such detail without actually seeing the event with their own eyes.
What's being depicted here? No idea, but given the details, it must be real.
Minotaur vs lion? I'd give it to the minotaur unless the lion was a Nemean lion.
Indeed, yet you havent any videos of 20 breast women or cenitars...yes?
Yet theres 4 videos of lions killing tigers, but if you wanna make it comidical then by all means lay down more dimeaning efforts of comedy...oh an Btw as for your art of the birds flying out that guys ass...XD XD XD XD XE
How do you explain dinosaurs then? There are no videos of dinosaurs, yes? The art I posted proves that 20-breasted women and minotaurs did exist. The ancient Greeks and Romans wouldn't lie, just like they don't lie about lions fighting tigers. Everyone knows this.
DO NOT try to educate the islanders with your big island science! Many virgins will be thrown into volcanoes tonight due to your blesphemy!!
Not to be confused with animations, Videos=Via proof is one of many albiet actual live content, Dinosaurs have another catagorie of proof...there...Fossils. Care to show me where Minitaurs bones have been excepted by scientifical studys an show cased in the line of factual evidence that they lived in any era? Nope.
As you said...Everyone knows that. XD
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I have no idea what's going on here.
YOU!
How DARE you show your face in here!
YOU started this!
Yoooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!
BudAshes
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And yet despite all your evidence it's a fact that they've done studies and 60% of the time the tiger wins every time.
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